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Today's Topics:
1. Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW (Bill Weathers)
2. Re: Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW (Lee Hiers)
3. Re: Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW (Hal Kennedy)
4. Re: Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW - split ops (Kevan Nason)
5. Re: Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW (wb4sq@yahoo.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:09:11 -0400
From: Bill Weathers <bill-weathers@comcast.net>
To: secc@contesting.com
Subject: [SECC] Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW
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Hello, I am a recent new member; thanks for your
patience.
I had an improved CQWW year over year, last year :
2011 105 QSO, ~26K pts; 2012 154 QSO, ~86K pts (26
zones, 77 entities) Single op unassisted low power
Question pertaining to band plan compliance.
I heard operators on 40M saying they were split,
with the listening frequency down in the data
segment below 7.125Mhz. (i.e. Op is on 7.154,
listening 7.038)
Is this practice acceptable? 40M is the only band
I heard this on, however was confused and didn't
work those stations.
Can someone help me understand this approach and
if acceptable or point me to the answer if asked
previously by a "newb" like myself?
Thank you in advance, have a great day.
Bill K4WSW
678.296.6919
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:15:00 -0400
From: Lee Hiers <aa4ga@contesting.com>
Cc: secc@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [SECC] Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW
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On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Bill Weathers
<bill-<bill-weathers@comcast.net>
weathers@comcast.net <bill-weathers@comcast.net>> wrote:
I had an improved CQWW year over year, last year : 2011 105 QSO, ~26K pts;
2012 154 QSO, ~86K pts (26 zones, 77 entities) Single op unassisted low
power
Congrats on the improvement!
I heard operators on 40M saying they were split, with the listening
frequency down in the data segment below 7.125Mhz. (i.e. Op is on 7.154,
listening 7.038)
Is this practice acceptable? 40M is the only band I heard this on,
however was confused and didn't work those stations.
If you were hearing folks CQing at 7154 and listening 7038, that was most
likely US guys running DX - you wouldn't want to work them anyway. But
obviously you wouldn't transmit SSB at 7038 in any event.
You should listen outside the US phone segment for DX stations calling CQ
and listening up in the US phone band. Say an Italian transmitting at 7075
and listening for US at 7200. It's perfectly fine to call these guys.
HTH,
73 de Lee
--
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:22:47 -0400
From: "Hal Kennedy" <halken@comcast.net>
To: "'Bill Weathers'" <bill-weathers@comcast.net>
Cc: 'South East Contest Club' <secc@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [SECC] Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW
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Bill,
This is common practice. Although your example is backwards.the DX usually
transmits between 7030 and 7100 on SSB, which is allowed in EU and states a
listening freq in the US phone band above 7.125. Its perfectly legal.
It performs many functions -
- Its spreads out the DX
- I allows the DX to not have to control a pileup
- It allows the DX to listen on their own freq and the US freq at
the same time if they are using a modern radio.
Once in a while US stations will turn it around and call CQ in the US phone
band and listen on their freq plus down below. For the same reasons above.
Its done on 40 given the small space on the band, the IARU regulations not
matching the band plans, etc.
73
Hal
N4GG
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From: SECC [mailto:secc-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Weathers
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:09 AM
To: secc@contesting.com
Subject: [SECC] Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW
Hello, I am a recent new member; thanks for your patience.
I had an improved CQWW year over year, last year : 2011 105 QSO, ~26K pts;
2012 154 QSO, ~86K pts (26 zones, 77 entities) Single op unassisted low
power
Question pertaining to band plan compliance.
I heard operators on 40M saying they were split, with the listening
frequency down in the data segment below 7.125Mhz. (i.e. Op is on 7.154,
listening 7.038)
Is this practice acceptable? 40M is the only band I heard this on, however
was confused and didn't work those stations.
Can someone help me understand this approach and if acceptable or point me
to the answer if asked previously by a "newb" like myself?
Thank you in advance, have a great day.
Bill K4WSW
678.296.6919
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:04:26 -0400
From: Kevan Nason <knason00@gmail.com>
To: Bill Weathers <bill-weathers@comcast.net>
Cc: secc@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [SECC] Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW - split ops
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Keep up the improvement Bill!
Since you are unfamiliar with the practice I'm assuming
you don't have experience doing this. Sorry if my
assumption is wrong. You've had a couple replies from
others, so thought I'd add some tips and shortfalls for
doing split operations. Operating split in the search and
pounce mode requires a lot of attention. I know how
easy it is to mess up!
Your radio probably has a second VFO or sub receiver.
Set the main to receive and use it to tune 7025 to 7125
(and sometimes higher). Set the "B" or sub receiver to
transmit. Tune your main to a station lisening "up" and
then move the B VFO to the frequency the DX is listening
to. You should check to make sure the DX hasn't chosen
a freq with a US QSO on it so you don't interfere with them.
(Many don't do that, but you should. That's one reason
non-contesters don't like us.) Answer the DX just as you
would if you were on the same frequency.
Some logging programs allow you to change the rigs'
frequency by typing in the last digits into the call field.
I'll talk about N1MM and WinTest. If you're on 40, typing
"234" in the call field takes the main VFO to 7234 KHz.
If you type "/234" in N1MM or "-234" in WinTest, it takes
the B VFO to 7234. By using those you can tune the low
part of 40 with the main VFO and when you hear
someone calling CQ and they say "Listening this
frequency and 234", type "/234" into the call field and
you instantly have both main and sub VFO's on the correct
frequencies. (WinTest is nice and automatically sets
the transmit focus to VFO B when you do that. That
caused me problems this weekend until I figured that
out! Sorry again Rick.)
The biggest problem when working split is that you
keep the transmit focus on the main VFO when you're
listening below 7125. You tune your B VFO (which
is really just a receiver now) to 7244 and then answer
the CQ. I still mess that up! Sometimes when you're
doing that someone will say "Check your frequency".
No need to answer them if you are ever told that!
I have had it said to me a couple times, but won't
admit I've ever said it.
Oh, you might hear split on 80 too, DX down in 3600 range
listening up around 3800+. Not very common though.
Kevan
N4XL
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:15:21 -0400
From: wb4sq@yahoo.com
To: Hal Kennedy <halken@comcast.net>
Cc: South East Contest Club <secc@contesting.com>, Bill Weathers
<bill-weathers@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [SECC] Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW
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Makes contesting on 40 fun but chews up precious bandwidth...
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:22 AM, "Hal Kennedy" <halken@comcast.net> wrote:
Bill,
This is common practice. Although your example is backwards?the DX usually transmits between 7030 and 7100 on SSB, which is allowed in EU and states a listening freq in the US phone band above 7.125. Its perfectly legal.
It performs many functions ?
- Its spreads out the DX
- I allows the DX to not have to control a pileup
- It allows the DX to listen on their own freq and the US freq at the same time if they are using a modern radio.
Once in a while US stations will turn it around and call CQ in the US phone band and listen on their freq plus down below. For the same reasons above.
Its done on 40 given the small space on the band, the IARU regulations not matching the band plans, etc.
73
Hal
N4GG
-----Original Message-----
From: SECC [mailto:secc-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Weathers
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 10:09 AM
To: secc@contesting.com
Subject: [SECC] Bill - K4WSW - question post CQWW
Hello, I am a recent new member; thanks for your patience.
I had an improved CQWW year over year, last year : 2011 105 QSO, ~26K pts; 2012 154 QSO, ~86K pts (26 zones, 77 entities) Single op unassisted low power
Question pertaining to band plan compliance.
I heard operators on 40M saying they were split, with the listening frequency down in the data segment below 7.125Mhz. (i.e. Op is on 7.154, listening 7.038)
Is this practice acceptable? 40M is the only band I heard this on, however was confused and didn't work those stations.
Can someone help me understand this approach and if acceptable or point me to the answer if asked previously by a "newb" like myself?
Thank you in advance, have a great day.
Bill K4WSW
678.296.6919
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