Tim are you saying that you also are hearing a station 1820?  I don't think it is a 2nd harmonic but I don't know how to figure if it is a mixed product. If you are hearing it too it must be from an actual transmission on 1820. The loop does cross over my barb wire yard fence so maybe picking up something that way. The loop is made from aluminum wire with a steel core.... doesn't rust, stretch or kink and cheap.... I have bought literally miles of this stuff over the years as we used electric fencing in all of our pastures.  See you all somewhere this weekend.... vhf or naqp!  Cort K4WI

Tim Wininger
Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:34 PM
GD to all.....

Is this new to 160mtr op's...NO.

Jerry's explanation is dead on. The culprit with corroded and rust connections is that they have a diode action ( galvanic)
about them  which make them great detectors/TX's. If you ever had a Galena xtal set as a kid you experienced
this .

Here I used to get some junk from a spanish speaking station close by which has now ceased operation. Also years back
1840 was alive most nights with a AM sig out of Ohio I believe.

1820 has been our issue here in the south since I have been active on 160 (15yrs or so). With trying to hear weak sigs any kind of birdie is very
damaging to copy.

Since I have been using RX arrays this has been less of an issue here though I can still hear these birdies however way down the slope compared
to my TX ant(vert).

As for the ARRL notification IMHO is a waste of your time. If the FCC's specs on the AM services is being meet  in regards to 2nd es 3rd  harmonic content then whats a body to do.
The FCC is who you should light up over this........

Didn't realize there are licensed AM stations on 1800 khz. Guess I will listen for that.  I have heard EU medium wave on or just below 1800 in the past.

So my solution is steel fence wire not so good for ant as it can create the diode affectt  along with pasture fences. USe of directional array of some sort might
ease your pain for such harmonics though seem like your not enthusiastic to put up RX system. Guess you will have to resign your self to be frustrated over
all this.

Hey as you said it's not a case of life/death so as they say  " live with it " or get on the stick and make some changes.........

PSE take this  dribble as a light hearted opnion all in all......

Good discussion,

Tim , AB4b


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 1:08 PM Roy Nagle <ranagle58@gmail.com> wrote:
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