Jeff,

Ed, K3DNE, is President of the SFCG and has been very interested in boosting activity of that group. Know it wasn't my place to do it, and hope you don't mind, but I took the liberty of forwarding this to him for his consideration even before the SECC group spoke up. Give him some time to think up some options too. We've talked about activity and I know he is open to and actively seeking ideas. I copied him in on this email too so you two have each other's email address.

As to SECC activity, that's why I now belong to both the SECC and SFCG -- and the unmentioned DDCC. If the SECC had been an active organization I wouldn't now be posting scores for the SFCG. John, K4BAI, and I talked about this years ago. I was very active in the club and post all the time. Not because I'm a know-it-all as some seem to think, but because I'm enthusiastic about contesting and love to share what I've learned and discovered about it with others. Usually it is stuff others taught me and experienced ops already know. But I digress... In my opinion, the SECC has been fading away for a long time. Hardly anyone seemed interested and anything other than a post of your score was a rarity. You couldn't drum up a conversation no matter how hard you tried. I asked myself what the point of a contest club is if there isn't any sharing of ideas. The spinoff and other regional groups you describe tell me I wasn't the only one that felt that way. Haven't told you, but I've been very happy you have started to rekindle things a bit Jeff. However, from my perspective it will be hard to put the "Jumping Ship" Genie back in the bottle and bring back those of us who have strayed. The new blood coming in might be the best focus for rejuvenation efforts. Just my opinion though and I've certainly been wrong many times in my life. 

The DDCC is drawing talent from this region too. Their location diversity makes it harder for them to compete in an ARRL circle event though.

So, I guess to sum up I'd say targeted regional competitions are a great idea. Ed, K3DNE, has kicked around that thought too. Change needs cooperation and membership effort. Hope people step up. I did tell Ed that I thought maybe the SECC was a bit of a giant compared to the SECC. Not sure how competitive the SFCG would be. But we're getting (and growing) some good contesters and folks are beginning to improve their stations, so maybe something can be worked out. Regardless of how things go with the SFCG it is good to hear the SECC looking to shake things up for themselves. It's needed.

Kevan N4XL

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 1:54 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:

Back when I lived in Ohio I was a long time member (and president a
couple times in the 1990's) of the Mad River Radio Club. Sometime in the
1980's the activity in the club was lacking and some disgruntled members
formed the North Coast Contesters. Does this sound familiar? The same
thing happened here when the Alabama Contest Group, Georgia Contest
Group and Swamp Fox Contest Group were formed. The South East Contest
Club is actually just a former shell of itself.  For those that are new
the South East Contest Club won the Sweepstakes medium category club
competition a couple times in the early 2000's.

See below the entries for each club submitted (posted on 3830) for 2020
CW Sweepstakes : SECC -
https://www.3830scores.com/currecscores.php?arg=JUccv3zbmyvqp

  GCG - https://www.3830scores.com/currecscores.php?arg=JUccv3zbmyvqp

  ACG - https://www.3830scores.com/currecscores.php?arg=JUccv3zbmyvqp

Swamp Fox - https://www.3830scores.com/currecscores.php?arg=JUccv3zbmyvqp

All though there were some big scores posted (especially in SECC and
GCG) the activity by all these clubs was pretty underwhelming. I
calculated if the SECC and GCG had submitted one club entry (as either
GCG or SECC) we would've had 1,612,542 points for just CW weekend. If
you add in what might happen in SSB weekend this could turn out to be a
pretty good club score. If you look at
https://contest-clubs.arrl.org/viewlists.php which lists all the
eligible members for each club you will also find that there are many
that still belong to the SECC and these other clubs with the exception
of ACG. K4BAI is the only SECC member that still belongs to ACG and no
one in Alabama is in SECC anymore.

Back to the Mad River Radio Club story...  After awhile the two clubs
figured out they had different interests. The members of North Coast
Contesters found they were more interested in DX contests while the MRRC
was more into domestic contests. So they made a deal that members of
both clubs would submit their DX contest results for NCC and domestic
contest scores for MRRC. They continue to do this today. I'm wondering
if there might be an interest in doing something similar here? Form the
ARRL club list I found out I'm both of member of GCG in addition the
SECC.  So what if we made a deal that dual members would say submit
their scores for GCG and domestic contests for SECC? This doesn't have
to be set in stone and can agreed on every year.  I don't think there is
any animosity between members of these different clubs. Plus there are
no rules that say you can't belong to more than one club.

I'm interesting in hearing some feedback.

Jeff KU8E







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