[SEDXC] SEDXC Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16
Patrick G Smith
patrickgsmith at charter.net
Thu Jan 17 13:12:12 EST 2008
WAS THINKING THE SAME THING. FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, I THOUGHT THAT I
WAS SIGN UP FOR POLITICAL UPDATES ON THE HOUR. BEEN AS BAD AS POP UPS.
PATRICK KG4EPI
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> Is this reflector about DX or politics??
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> Scott KK4Z
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Fwd: MITT ROMNEY & HAM RADIO (MAllphin at aol.com)
>> 2. Mitt Romney and Ham Radio (MAllphin at aol.com)
>> 3. Re: Mitt Romney and Ham Radio (gmacie at bellsouth.net)
>> 4. Re: Mitt Romney and Ham Radio (Carl)
>> 5. Re: Mitt Romney and Ham Radio (Keith LaBorde (K4KAL))
>> 6. Re: Romney dismisses Amateur radio (David Thompson)
>> 7. Mit Romney's remarks (Chaz Cone)
>> 8. Re: Mit Romney's remarks (Gary McConville)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:09:02 EST
>> From: MAllphin at aol.com
>> Subject: [SEDXC] Fwd: MITT ROMNEY & HAM RADIO
>> To: SEDXC at contesting.com
>> Message-ID: <cb7.207ee725.34bfa23e at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>> more on the controversy !
>>
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:13:22 EST
>> From: MAllphin at aol.com
>> Subject: [SEDXC] Mitt Romney and Ham Radio
>> To: SEDXC at contesting.com
>> Message-ID: <c26.2813005b.34bfa342 at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
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>> More on the controversy...this from Skip, W5GAI
>> 73, Bob
>> K4UEE
>>
>> Ham Radio has entered the presidential issue dialog.
>> Skip W5GAI
>> -----------------------------------------
>> Wednesday 16 November 2005 @ 15:48:10 | Eastern Massachusetts ARRL
>> Romney
>> 'Disses' Amateur Radio In
>> Televised Town Meeting Posted on Wednesday16 November 2005 @ 15:48:10
>>
>> Governor Mitt Romney dismissed the role of Amateur Radio operators in
>> emergency communications
>> during a televised 'town meeting' program last night on WCVB's 'When
>> Disaster Strikes: Segment Two.'
>> The program featured public safety and volunteer organization officials
>> from
>> across Massachusetts
>> among its audience.
>>
>> Host and moderator Natalie Jacobson asked an increasingly-agitated
>> Governor
>> Romney questions about
>> communications interoperability, and communication without commercial
>> power.
>> Romney was next asked
>> by Jacobson, '...so does it come down to ham radio?...'
>>
>> The Governor replied in a disgusted tone, 'No, we don't need to deal
>> with
>> ham radio operators...'
>>
>> Embarrassed public safety officials later tried to put in a good word
>> for
>> Amateur Radio. National
>> Weather Service Warning Coordination Meteorologist Glenn Field was
>> prepared
>> to state the importance
>> of Amateur Radio, when Salvation Army Colonel Fred Van Brunt was called
>> upon. Van Brunt remarked
>> about his organization's quest to improve its communications
>> capabilities
>> and how Amateur Radio has
>> aided his organization. 'The ham radio situation helps a great deal,' he
>> stated.
>>
>> 'I have already written and submitted a letter to the Governor's
>> Office,'
>> wrote Eastern MA Section
>> Emergency Coordinator Rob Macedo, KD1CY. 'I have also written an email
>> to
>> Natalie Jacobson.'
>>
>> ARRL Section Manager Mike Neilsen, W1MPN sent a section-wide email today
>> to
>> all Eastern MA ARRL
>> members describing the incident along with actions he and his staff were
>> taking to mitigate the
>> situation.
>>
>> '[Romney's] attitude about us sets an unfortunate tone within the
>> state's
>> executive branch,' wrote
>> Neilsen. 'As a former military officer, I see this as a failure in
>> leadership. My immediate concern
>> is our working relationship within the [Massachusetts Emergency
>> Management
>> Team] environment.'
>> Neilsen intends to address the Governor's comments as 'an urgent matter'
>> at
>> a meeting on November 17
>> with Don Carlton from the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency.
>>
>> 'I was very disturbed about what the Governor stated on the program,'
>> wrote
>> Ron Wood, W1PLW, the
>> section's Public Information Coordinator. 'It does show that more work is
>> needed by all hams in the
>> section. It's a great idea to write letters explaining the good we do.'
>> Wood
>> is attempting to
>> schedule a meeting with the Governor's office tomorrow so that EMA ARRL
>> staffers might discuss the
>> matter further.
>>
>> Tom Kinahan, N1CPE wrote that Governor Romney's comment has made 'a PR
>> problem' for Kinahan in his
>> role as MA State RACES Officer.
>>
>> 'I've got a roster of over 150 Amateur Radio operators that support
>> local
>> communities, and those of
>> us that directly support the state government. There are at least double
>> that in terms of people
>> that are actually out there that I don't have formal paperwork on that
>> support Amateur Radio
>> emergency communications in some organized manner... The Governor has
>> said
>> that he 'certainly
>> doesn't need to rely on ham radio' -- where does that leave the RACES
>> program now?'
>>
>> 'I am ashamed tonight that I am a Republican!' remarked one ham radio
>> viewer. '[Romney] speaks in
>> derogatory tones about hams. He certainly shows an ignorance as to what
>> we
>> do and are capable of. I
>> suggest a grass roots campaign of local hams calling the State House and
>> The
>> Governor's Office to
>> protest.'
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
>> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:39:24 +0000
>> From: gmacie at bellsouth.net
>> Subject: Re: [SEDXC] Mitt Romney and Ham Radio
>> To: sedxc at contesting.com
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> 011620081839.28286.478E4F5C0000EDCE00006E7E22216128369B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF0A070C0E0309 at att.net
>> >
>>
>>
>> I'm sure the Romney campaign will release a statement on what a great job
>> Ham Radio does with emergency communications and a "what i meant to say"
>> comment. Next thing he will be on the front of www.arrl.org sitting down
>> with a radio.... Just politics. I don't like the comment but it's not
>> going
>> to infulence my vote. This country has more important issues than ham
>> radio.
>> NO I have decided yet.
>>
>> Gordon N4LR
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:47:44 -0500
>> From: Carl <carlh at wb4znh.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SEDXC] Mitt Romney and Ham Radio
>> To: sedxc at contesting.com
>> Message-ID: <478E5150.7080403 at wb4znh.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> IF Romney were to be elected President, how would any of this help us
>> get return access to Desecheo and Navassa? Carl
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:14:10 -0800 (PST)
>> From: "Keith LaBorde \(K4KAL\)" <klaborde at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SEDXC] Mitt Romney and Ham Radio
>> To: Carl <carlh at wb4znh.com>, "*SEDXC Reflector\)"
>> <SEDXC at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <111975.129.qm at web50804.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> I would guess that Gov Romney actually has no clue what ham radio
>> actually is and probably associates it with the radio communications he
>> views when he's watching "Duke's of Hazard" episodes where Boss Hog is
>> using his CB to direct the sherrif's department. It was obviously a
>> statement of apathetic ignorance. In my experience it is very difficult
>> to convince someone about the worth of ham radio unless they actually
>> want to be convinced. Most people just nod and say "ummm... yah, ok"
>> without much understanding or interest. It's always worth the effort to
>> try though!
>>
>>
>> Carl <carlh at wb4znh.com> wrote: IF Romney were to be elected President,
>> how would any of this help us
>> get return access to Desecheo and Navassa? Carl
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:18:05 -0500
>> From: "David Thompson" <thompson at mindspring.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SEDXC] Romney dismisses Amateur radio
>> To: "SEDXC" <sedxc at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <03bc01c85885$49aa2080$88609a04 at yourxb2x7j77gn>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> I agree that Gov. Romney should listen to the Salvation army folks on the
>> service that amateur radio provides.
>>
>> I also agree with Val N4RJ that all of us need to
>> understand the service amateur radio CAN provide. The VU4 and VU7
>> Dxpeditions are a direct result of the emergency in that area.
>>
>> When many of us old heads got our ticket we were Dxers, Contesters, and
>> traffic handlers. This is the missing part of many Dxers today. I have
>> been told that I must be trained to do anything beyond providing help as
>> a
>> last resort from my home station as I did during Katrina. To get
>> ANYWHERE
>> near the area requires training and a federal pass. That is why ARRL
>> hired
>> Dennis Dura, K2DCD who was at Lawrenceville last November. Dennis is the
>> ideal ham to send a message to Gov. Romney.
>>
>> 73 Dave K4JRB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:28:41 -0500
>> From: Chaz Cone <w4gkf at chazcone.com>
>> Subject: [SEDXC] Mit Romney's remarks
>> To: sedxc at contesting.com
>> Message-ID: <20080116213543.44FDD31B5EC at dayton.contesting.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
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>> I put up an excerpt from the 2005 Town Hall Meeting.
>>
>> www.w4gkf.com/romney
>>
>> Chaz, W4GKF
>> Atlanta GA
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:03:09 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Gary McConville <wb4sq at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [SEDXC] Mit Romney's remarks
>> To: sedxc at contesting.com
>> Message-ID: <915221.80473.qm at web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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>> Romney's commentslast week glorifying the pharmaceutical industry was
>> enough to lose my vote.
>>
>>
>> --- Chaz Cone <w4gkf at chazcone.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I put up an excerpt from the 2005 Town Hall Meeting.
>> >
>> > www.w4gkf.com/romney
>> >
>> > Chaz, W4GKF
>> > Atlanta GA
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