[SEDXC] REMOTE OPERATION

Ken Reid ken at kenreid.com
Wed Nov 6 10:54:22 EST 2013


Hi group,
I have moved once since being licensed. I had to re-do all my WAS, and I get
the rules there. I am glad my DXCC awards traveled with with me. I see
nothing wrong with allowing remote stations-even those outside of any
geography limits if they are a way for someone, say in a condo, to keep
contesting. That said I really do not like the idea of gaming the system. I
would venture that some case by case rules might have to be set up, and
maybe a time frame rule needs to be applied - like once you are using a
remote station that is the only remote station you can apply towards DXCC
awards for the next 2 years.
Regards to all
Ken
KG4USN-100 watts and a dipole so far


On 11/6/13 10:31 AM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists at subich.com> wrote:

> 
>> Being able to use remote stations on both coast of
>> the USA does not seem fair in regard to award chasing.
> 
> I agree with you there.  For example, CQ DX Marathon prohibits
> the use of remote stations for that program.
> 
>> My thoughts are to bring a mileage limit back in for remote and
>> fixed.  Say 250 miles from your FCC station address.
> 
> The WAS program has a 25 mile radius ("Contacts must be made from
> the same location, or from locations no two of which are more than
> 50 miles apart"), and VUCC is a 100 km radius ("For VUCC awards on
> 50 through 1296 MHz and Satellite, all contacts must be made from
> locations no more than 200 km apart.").
> 
>> My thoughts are to bring a mileage limit back in for remote and
>> fixed.  Say 250 miles from your FCC station address.
> 
> I would rather see something that prohibits "remote shopping" ...
> perhaps replacing the third sentence of Rule 9 with: "For the purposes
> of this rule, the transmitter may not be located more than 40 km (25
> miles) from the operator's licensed location unless the operator is
> present at the transmitter.  All transmitters and receivers must be
> contained within a 100 meter (328 foot) diameter circle."
> 
> This allows for mobile operation, for someone to "borrow" a station if
> they are out of town on business during a short DXpedition, or operate
> *their own [home] station* remotely - say a resident of Minnesota who
> spends 6 months a year in Florida.  It does prevent someone from using
> a remote station in Washington/Oregon for working the Pacific/Asia, a
> remote station in Maine for working Europe/Middle-East and a remote
> station in South Florida for working South America/South Africa in a
> short period of time ... or from using internet receivers anywhere in
> the world.
> 
> 73,
> 
>     ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 11/6/2013 9:41 AM, Mike Greenway wrote:
>> Seems the subject of remote stations keeps coming up in regard to
>> DXCC and other awards .  I wrote K4MQG, our DXAC rep for this area,
>> about my thoughts and he said they were drafting something to submit
>> to ARRL.  At one time there were some mileage rules with DXCC but
>> with everyone moving around they dropped that requirement and now you
>> only have to be in the country you are licensed for a QSO to be
>> accepted by DXCC.  Being able to use remote stations on both coast of
>> the USA does not seem fair in regard to award chasing.
>> 
>> My thoughts are to bring a mileage limit back in for remote and
>> fixed.  Say 250 miles from your FCC station address. I am not
>> particular on this limit, could be less or more but not 2,500 miles
>> like we have now.  If you move to another QTH area and change your
>> FCC address you can still carry what your totals with you but the
>> mileage limit would apply to the new address for anything worked
>> going forward.  I don¹t see where there would be any objections to
>> this.  You would always be able to carry your totals with you. For
>> VUCC all QSO¹s must be within 50 KM.
>> 
>> I am not against remote stations, just ones that gain an unfair
>> advantage propagation wise by using remotes all over the USA.
>> 
>> Gary said ARRL did not always accept their proposals so maybe a note
>> to K1ZZ might help.
>> 
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