[Skimmertalk] Skimmer use places op in Assisted category forCQWW

[Ted Bryant]

I'm going to beat this drum one more time....

Instead of defining the categories in terms of what hardware/software is or
is not allowed, it seems to me that
categories should be defined by what functions the operator is allowed/not
allowed to perform in conjunction with what information is allowed to be
used and from which sources it can be obtained.

If this is not done, inevitably there will be new hardware or software
developed which falls outside the category description and we'll be right
back here again.

Also, the use of the terms "assistance" or "assisted" MUST GO.

Would anyone like to try defining "QSO alerting assistance"?

73, Ted W4NZ


-----Original Message-----
From: skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Paul J. Piercey
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:10 AM
To: 'Vladimir Sidorov'; skimmertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Skimmertalk] Skimmer use places op in Assisted category
forCQWW


CW Skimmer is nothing like the packet cluster. An operator can manually
duplicate anything that the local Skimmer can do but cannot duplicate what
the cluster does. While I agree that getting Skimmer data from a network
should be equated to cluster use, the use of a local Skimmer should not.

It'll be interesting to see how they enforce it. I would venture that this
decision will create far more problems than it was intended to solve.

73 -- Paul VO1HE


> -----Original Message-----
> From: skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Vladimir Sidorov
> Sent: August 11, 2008 18:03
> To: skimmertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Skimmertalk] Skimmer use places op in Assisted
> category forCQWW
>
> Scott,
> Thanks for bringing up good news.
>
> Apparently it turned to be clear for everybody that Skimmer
> is perhaps even more "QSO alerting assistance" than the
> traditional spotting system. The list's activity has slowed
> down simply because there was virtually nothing to discuss
> anymore. All the reports of trial use of Skimmer in contests
> have cleary proved the fact that SO and SO+Skimmer are
> totally different animals.
>
> Sanity is there at last, thanks to the CQWW team.
>
> 73,
> Vladimir VE3IAE
>
> ---
>
> > Though this list appears to be winding down, I thought I would point
> > out for the record that this text now appears in CQWW rules:
> >
> > A. Single Operator categories: For
> > all single operator categories, only one person (the operator) can
> > contribute to the final score during the official contest period. QSO
> > alerting assistance of any kind (this includes, but is not limited to,
> > packet, local or remote Skimmer and/or Skimmer-like technology,
> > Internet) places the entrant
> > in the Single Operator Assisted category.
> >
> > -- Scott (NE1RD)
> >
> > B. Scott Andersen           | "Magic is real, unless