[Skimmertalk] Now what - other contesting uses for Skimmer?

David Gilbert xdavid at cis-broadband.com
Wed Jul 16 19:52:00 EDT 2008



I don't get it.  What's the difference between cross checking logs to 
verify a claimed QSO and analyzing band recordings to verify rule 
compliance?  It's no different than instant replay in sports.  If 
anything, it would seem to me to be less prone to abuse to have the 
sponsors be able to directly monitor a contest than to rely on data from 
other contesters. 

Eventually, I could envision Skimmer-like software being able to monitor 
contest activity on a sample basis to look for all sorts of rule 
violations that wouldn't show up in the collective logs.  For example, I 
worked one U.S. ham in the IARU contest that only gave his zone ... no 
signal report (yeah, I know we recently went through all that on the 
contesting reflector).  I thought maybe it was just an oversight so I 
listened for his next few QSOs.  He kept doing the same thing so I 
deleted him from my log.  I wouldn't be at all surprised to see software 
within the next couple of years that can post-analyze a band recording 
to flag that sort of thing.

It's 1984 if someone or something is monitoring your private behavior in 
a personal setting, but I don't see how you make that leap for a public 
event with rules and guidelines you agreed to follow when you decided to 
participate in it.

73,
Dave   AB7E



K0HB wrote:
> You're joking, right?
>  
> If radiosport contesting has descended to the level that sponsors would
> need to consider such "1984'ish" techniques, then it's time to "shut 'er
> down" and take up fishing or golf. Donate the spectrum to somebody else.
>  
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
> Just a boy and his radio
> --
>  ><{{{{*>    http://www.home.earthlink.net/~k0hb   
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>> [Original Message]
>> From: Pete Smith <n4zr at contesting.com>
>> To: <skimmertalk at contesting.com>
>> Date: 7/16/2008 7:54:27 PM
>> Subject: [Skimmertalk] Now what - other contesting uses for Skimmer?
>>
>> It's not too soon, in anticipation of the coming contest season, to
>>     
> wonder 
>   
>> which contest sponsor will be the first to use a network of Skimmers to 
>> monitor bands during major contests and provide an iron-clad basis for 
>> resolving at least some allegations of cheating.  Two simultaneous 
>> signals?  A recording from the band and time that the alleged infraction 
>> took place can resolve such issues definitively.  Rubber-clocking to 
>> finesse the 6 band change limit or 10-minute rule for 
>> multi-single/multi-2?  Dead easy to verify, or refute.
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>
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