[Skimmertalk] CwSkimmer 1.8 problems (solved)

Sat May 14 20:30:13 EDT 2016

Thanks for the suggestions. I've learned several things in this experience, but anyway:

It looks like I had a memory leak, one that is not reflected in the displayed memory usage
by application in resource monitor.  

Just to recap, I installed a video board instead of the on board one. Freed up memory so
it took longer to fail, but still did fail.  So pulled the Quartet sound card (the one with the
beta drivers).  Found that the default Microsoft audio drivers would still allow the onboard
audio interface to run at 24 bit 96 khz, (the onboard Adi 1984 is not supported by Dell 
or Adi for Windows 10).  

Ran the on board audio and cw skimmer all day, sitting at 22% memory utilization.  

Only down side is a slight drop off in sensitivity at the edges.  Even had a short opening
on 6 to,produce some spots.   

Mark. N2QT

> On May 13, 2016, at 12:31 PM, David Robbins <k1ttt at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Ok, that has a good tool for monitoring memory usage.  When notepad can’t be opened for not having enough memory, something is really wrong.  Open the task manager, go to the performance tab, and there should be a button or link to the resource monitor.  That is an improved monitor tool.  On the memory tab you can sort by the amount of memory used and watch the graphs as it gets used up.  maybe the process that is eating the memory will be something you can kill, or maybe not.
>  
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373
>  
>  
> From: Mark n2qt [mailto:n2qt.va at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 16:05
> To: David Robbins
> Cc: skimmertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Skimmertalk] CwSkimmer 1.8 problems
>  
> Win 10 Pro, 32 bit and 4 G ram.  
>  
> It's is an optiplex 755 which is said to not on dells win10 list, so the on board audio has
> no drivers.  
>  
> Would have been so,easy to drop $100 on a better refurb. 
> 
> Mark. N2QT
> 
> On May 13, 2016, at 11:51 AM, David Robbins <k1ttt at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> What operating system is it and how much ram does it have??
>  
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
> web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373
>  
>  
> From: Mark Sihlanick [mailto:n2qt.va at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 14:29
> To: David Robbins
> Cc: skimmertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Skimmertalk] CwSkimmer 1.8 problems
>  
> thanks to N6TV, N4ZR, and K1TTT for suggestions.
>  
> Yesterday, I ran chkdsk with no issues, so figured I'd run the memory test as well, I mean how
> long could that take?  Well about 8-9 hours later it was done with no complaint. 
>  
> The CwSkimmer.exe is in the program files location and as shown in its properties it is configured to
> run as administrator.  I open it by double clicking on the .exe
>  
> I can initially edit the skimmer ini file and save it.
>  
> After the system ran over night, and with the system apparently working, (I could get telnet
> responses from it) I attempted to edit the ini file again but this time Notepad Indicated "Not
> enough memory is available to process this command".  I then went to open the event log,
> which gave the Microsoft Management Console error:
>  
> MMC cannot open the file C:\windows\system32\eventvwr.msc.
>  
> I attempted shutdown after this which was incomplete after 5 minutes or so, and since the disk
> access led had stopped flashing I power strobed it.
>  
> After restart I looked through the event log. It didn't like my incomplete power down, complained
> about not being able to start Xonar U5, which I had removed from device manager and uninstalled
> days ago, and some week old disk access issues reported by the audit process.  
>  
> I don't know enough to find the smoking gun, if there is one, in the event log.  
>  
> It is possible this problem has nothing to do with cwskimmer, and is just a system instability. I may
> try leaving the system up with nothing running and see if the memory bleed occurs on its own.
>  
> In the meantime, I've got another old dual core I'll try to get going.  With two systems, I can get 
> twice as confused at a faster rate. This is all for a second 6M skimmer to catch e skip season.  
>  
> Mark n2qt
>  
>  
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:26 AM, David Robbins <k1ttt at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> that sounds more like windows is running out of memory or some other resource.  I would bring up the resource monitor before you start the skimmer and watch it while you open and close it a few times.  also check the event log to see if it has more information or other errors like disk access problems. 
> 
> 
> May 11, 2016 07:12:35 PM, n2qt.va at gmail.com wrote:
> ok this is driving me nuts. 
> 
> I have a new install of Win 10 Pro 32 bit, new install of CWSkimmer 1.8 all on an older dual core Dell Optiplex 755.
> 
> The CWskimmer is set to run by Administrator when it is invoked. I start it from its file location to avoid using a shortcut
> that may complicate things. 
> 
> Everything works, can shut and restart CWskimmer . . . until it doesn't. This can be in time duration from a couple to many
> hours, it never runs more than a day. There is generally no complaint and it runs fine until I try to shut it down.
> 
> The failure message when trying to shutdown CwSkimmer is:
> 
> Unable to write to 
> C:Users\skimmer\AppData\Roaming\Afreet\Products\CwSkimmer\CwSkimmer.ini
> 
> my user account (the only one on this machine) is skimmer to explain that.
> 
> I cannot end the CWskimmer task by clicking close or the Red X box. If I do a ctrl-alt-del to get to task manager to 
> close it there, I get this error:
> 
> The sign-in process couldn't display security, and sign-in options when Ctrl-Alt-Delete was pressed. If Windows doesn't
> respond, press Esc, or use the power switch to restart. 
> 
> Esc doesn't do anything, left clicking the WIndows Icon in the lower left of the screen does nothing but right clicking the
> Windows icon does open that menu and give the option to shut down, which it does.
> 
> Restarting, everything is good, can shutdown and restart CwSkimmer at will until it doesn't.
> 
> I assume I have some privilege violation that comes up over time, but I don't have a clue. Only other thing on this machine
> that may be questionable is the Quartet soundcard. This card is an orphan and I'm running the last beta release driver for it.
> I like how this soundcard works, but will replace it with something else if there are no other suggestions. 
> 
> Mark n2qt
> 
> 
> 
> Mark. N2QT
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