[Skimmertalk] Fwd: Fwd: Re: aggregator sunrise/sunset?

Thu Feb 23 07:32:13 EST 2017

Yes, it is the rtty skimmer server that had the old sunrise/set times.  If
you only update on connecting to the server that would explain it as mine
normally runs for a month or more at a time before I have to do anything
with it like install updates or such.  It would probably make more sense to
calculate the sunrise/set times every time you switch ini files instead of
when you connect to the server.  the calculations should be relatively quick
so doing it 2 or maybe 4 times a day won't cost much anyway and would keep
the times in sync with changing seasons better.

The rtty skimmer server detects a change in the ini file date/time and
reloads it without stopping, though it does have to reinitialize so I don't
really see any advantage in that except it lets you edit the file from a
button on it's gui without closing the program.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373

-----Original Message-----
From: Skimmertalk [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
W3OA
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 04:08
To: skimmertalk at contesting.com
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Fwd: Fwd: Re: aggregator sunrise/sunset?

Here's what I think is happening:

Aggregator calculates sunrise and sunset times every time it connects to its
primary skimmer.  This works fine when the primary skimmer is CW Skimmer or
CW Skimserv because Aggregator disconnects from  and reconnects to the
primary skimmer every time Aggregator rotates the ini file.

As I recall from Dave's previous posts, one of his Aggregators uses an
instance of RTTY SkimServ for it's primary skimmer. (Dave, is this
correct?) In that case, Aggregator does not disconnect from and reconnect to
the primary skimmer when rotating .ini files.  Instead, it sends a
SKIMMER/RESTART telnet command to force using the new .ini parameters.  In
this configuration Aggregator could run for a long time without updating the
sunrise and sunset times.  Not a good thing.  I need to fix it.

Dave previously asked me to change this so that on ini rotations Aggregator
will treat RTTY Skimserv as it does CW Skimserv.  This would fix the current
sunrise sunset problem.  But I have not made the change yet.  My comments in
the code say I had to treat RTTY Skimmer differently but don't say why, and
I can't remember. Could well be this was a misunderstanding on my part.  I
need to spend some more time trying to figure this out.

73 - Dick, W3OA

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [Skimmertalk] aggregator sunrise/sunset?
Date: 	Wed, 22 Feb 2017 20:17:49 +0000
From: 	David Robbins <k1ttt at verizon.net>
Reply-To: 	k1ttt at arrl.net
Organization: 	k1ttt
To: 	'SkimmerTalk Reflector' <skimmertalk at contesting.com>

Grid is displayed in upper case so that is ok.  both machines set to utc.

I closed the wrong one and reopened it then it now it displays the correct
times.  I am wondering if the aggregator only calculates the sunrise/set
once a week or something like that?  this time of year the difference could
be several minutes a day.

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail:mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web:http://wiki.k1ttt.net  <http://wiki.k1ttt.net/> AR-Cluster node:
145.69MHz ortelnet://k1ttt.net:7373

From:rawilson at gmail.com  [mailto:rawilson at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Wilson, N6TV
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 20:05
To: SkimmerTalk Reflector
Cc: Dave Robbins, K1TTT
Subject: Re: [Skimmertalk] aggregator sunrise/sunset?

Did you check the Windows Time Zone setting?

Also, does it display in uppercase as FN32LL or FN32II (eye and el look the
same in lower case in many fonts).

73,

Bob, N6TV

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 4:10 AM, David Robbins<k1ttt at verizon.net>  wrote:

I have 2 computers running skimmers, one has the correct sunrise/sunset
times  1140z/2234z, the other is wrong showing 1206z/2208z.  both show grid
as fn32ll, both clocks are showing the same date/time.  just happened to
notice because when I just checked one was still on the night ini file and
the other was on the day one.  what inputs could be different, or is one of
them just not updating the calculation for some reason???

David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail:<mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net>  mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net
web:<http://wiki.k1ttt.net/>  http://wiki.k1ttt.net AR-Cluster node:
145.69MHz or<telnet://k1ttt.net:7373>
telnet://k1ttt.net:7373

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