Yes Heil makes both haresses the old 1/4" plug and the newer ones I have both... Cleve - N7IXG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/tentecfaq.html Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: w9tw@contesting.com Sponsored by: Akorn Access, Inc & KM9P