You know, that dipole does not have to be up more than a few feet to work well. No need for slingshot or bow & arrow for a 'lil ole camping trip. 73, Larry W3UIO (Remove "_".) -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/tentecfaq.htm Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm