The easiest way to use other than ten tec mics, which are eletret condenser elements, is by using a w2ihy gizmo. Its easy because of the way the gizmo is built. check it out. he's got a web site. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com