From Adam Nathanson" I just bought a 705 desk microphone for my Corsair II. It came without documentation and I can't figure out what the effect of the vox/ptt switch on the bottom is. Can anyone help? Regards, Adam Nathanson N4EKV -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From geraldj@ames.net Fri Sep 1 04:20:13 2000 From: geraldj@ames.net (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:20:13 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] 705 vox/ptt switch: What does it do? References: <003101c013cb$48f134f0$022cc03f@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <39AF206D.577A@ames.net> I'd guess it connects the microphone to the wire in the VOX position and lets the PTT switch do it only when pushed in the PTT position. Cuts down on feedback in the PTT position. 73, Jerry, K0CQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From KF6ZZ@aol.com Fri Sep 1 06:00:31 2000 From: KF6ZZ@aol.com (KF6ZZ@aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 01:00:31 EDT Subject: [TenTec] 705 vox/ptt switch: What does it do? Message-ID: <63.a93c2ae.26e091ef@aol.com> The VOX/PTT switch is a SPST switch that connects / disconnects the collector of an NPN transistor to pin 3 of the mic connector. Switching to VOX position, this line is opened, disabling the PTT signal from the 705 circuitry. In the PTT position, the connection is completed, and the Corsair TX is controlled by the buttons on the 705. ( Provided of course, that the VOX switch on your CII is off ! ) If it is on, then the CII ignores input level to pin 3 on its mic connector. So then, you might as well leave the VOX / PTTswitch on the bottom of the 705 in the PTT position all the time ) Have you noticed low output from the 705 into your CII ? What position do you set the drive pot ? I have a 705 mic also, and noticed a rather low output, I gotta crank the drive pot on the front of my CII all the way to max and then speak close to the mic to achieve barely adequate drive level. Something ain't right here ... My other mics work fine on my Corsair II ... Would appreciate any comments ... 73, - Phil KF6ZZ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jmerril1@twcny.rr.com Fri Sep 1 10:45:40 2000 From: jmerril1@twcny.rr.com (John L Merrill) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 05:45:40 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Pegasus and 962 Supply Message-ID: <000a01c013f9$63bba440$0300a8c0@jmerril1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C013D7.DC454F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pegasus and 962 power supply, $875 including shipping from Syracuse NY. John N1JM ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C013D7.DC454F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pegasus and 962 power supply, $875 = including=20 shipping from Syracuse NY.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C013D7.DC454F00-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From reid.w.simmons@intel.com Fri Sep 1 16:55:09 2000 From: reid.w.simmons@intel.com (Simmons, Reid W) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:55:09 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] TT 6n2 rig Message-ID: <1C866BFE7D63D211AC3E00A0C969E97304788D11@orsmsx39.jf.intel.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0142D.01874520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone heard any news in the past few months about Ten Tec's 6 N 2 rig (model 526?)? It well over a year since the original date of availability. 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Just the weekly reminder for the User's Net this Sunday on 14.267 +/- st 3 pm local pacific, 4 pm local mountain, 5 pm local central, 6 pm local eastern, or 2200UTC. Will/KM5QWE and myself will anxiously be awaiting your check-in. Have a fun and safe holiday weekend! 73, Jay/KM6VX Torrance, Ca. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Fri Sep 1 20:21:32 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] Re: Tuners & Ten Tec Transceivers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 30 meters, I'm using a Pro Am 30-meter whip up about 7.5 meters on my house. It's grounded using wire to a 7-foot ground rod in the soil. I'm getting an SWR of 3:1 at 100 watts and 1.6:1 when I use 20 watts. I do not have radials or a counterpois on it the antenna. Being disabled, it's not easy to get those installed, so I'm thinking of just getting an antenna tuner. I'm looking at two models: The MFJ-945E at $99 and the Vectronics VC-300M at $99 Which one would you folks recommend? Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu Fri Sep 1 20:32:32 2000 From: csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu (Clark Savage Turner) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TenTec] Corsair II display flutter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I seem to recall someone curing excessive "flutter" in the last digit on a Corsair display with a single transistor in the counter unit. Can anyone tell me about this? Clark WA3JPG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu Fri Sep 1 20:44:05 2000 From: csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu (Clark Savage Turner) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TenTec] Stuff for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would like to sell more stuff to generate the cash to buy the K2 kit. I would really prefer a semi-local sale if possible, I like to shake hands in person. Very nice OMNI-C ... $325. Additionally, I have the 243 vfo (at $100) and the 234 RF processor (at $55) to sell with the OMNI or separately. Clark WA3JPG San Luis Obispo, CA. 3 hours from LA or from San Francisco, on the coast. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From res043pa@gte.net Fri Sep 1 21:06:21 2000 From: res043pa@gte.net (CDF) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:06:21 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] #223 A Noise Blanker For 525D Argosy Message-ID: <002e01c01450$1bd42100$b7f3183f@eypwndog> Hello all. I am looking for the TT #223 A Noise Blanker for my Argosy II 525 D. If you have one that you would like to part with please email me with the price. It needs to be The A version for my radio. Thanks Charlie ****************************************************** The Truth Is Out There. This Is Who WE Are ****************************************************** WA8CUL QRP-L #1752 Charles D. Feigley Sr SOC #394 1516 Toledo St. TT Argosy II @ 5 W Holiday, Florida 34690 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Fri Sep 1 21:05:11 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:05:11 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] 705 vox/ptt switch: What does it do? In-Reply-To: <003101c013cb$48f134f0$022cc03f@pacbell.net> Message-ID: > > I just bought a 705 desk microphone for my Corsair II. It came without > documentation and I can't figure out what the effect of the vox/ptt switch > on the bottom is. > > Can anyone help? > According to my schematic of the mic, the switch switches out the PTT circuitry if you use VOX and switches in the circuitry if you want to use the mic PTT control(s). 73, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From cherry@neta.com Fri Sep 1 21:32:24 2000 From: cherry@neta.com (Jim FitzSimons) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 13:32:24 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Tuners & Ten Tec Transceivers References: Message-ID: <39B01258.32D6@neta.com> Bob, the VSWR is probably 3:1. Most in line VSWR meters read better with more power. Of course you should aways tune with the lowest power possible. Usually 10 Watts for a 300 Watt VSWR meter. The VSWR is not accurate but you only need to tune to minimum VSWR. The two are compact mobile tuners. They are very much the same. MFJ builds both. I have a MFJ 300W tuner and I like it. Which one matches you equipment? Best regards, Jim FitzSimons W7ANF Bob Mauro - PeopleNet wrote: > > On 30 meters, I'm using a Pro Am 30-meter whip up about 7.5 > meters on my house. It's grounded using wire to a 7-foot ground > rod in the soil. I'm getting an SWR of 3:1 at 100 watts and > 1.6:1 when I use 20 watts. I do not have radials or a > counterpois on it the antenna. Being disabled, it's not easy to > get those installed, so I'm thinking of just getting an antenna > tuner. I'm looking at two models: > > The MFJ-945E at $99 > > and the > > Vectronics VC-300M at $99 > > Which one would you folks recommend? > > Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wayneb@lightstream.net Fri Sep 1 23:15:53 2000 From: wayneb@lightstream.net (Wayne) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:15:53 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] WTB: Model 238 Tuner Message-ID: <39B02A98.AAFFC1EA@lightstream.net> Hi, I am looking for a Model 238 tuner in excellent condition. No scratches, scuff, dings, and etc. Wayne WA8UOY -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From geraldj@ames.net Sat Sep 2 00:48:43 2000 From: geraldj@ames.net (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 18:48:43 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Tuners & Ten Tec Transceivers References: Message-ID: <39B0405B.266C@ames.net> With a 7.5 meter ground wire you have a vertical effectively 15 meters tall fed away from the bottom, quarter wave resonant at 5 MHz. It NEEDS those radials. You would be better off with any center fed wire fed with tuned feeders. Make the flat top (or inverted V) whatever fits between the available supports, use ladder line for a feeder and a balanced tuner. It can work more bands than any other antenna, limited mostly by the tuner (unless its really short) and doesn't have that ground wire length problem. 73, Jerry, K0CQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n3byy@speakeasy.org Sat Sep 2 03:46:53 2000 From: n3byy@speakeasy.org (Scott Howell) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 22:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] sf: keys and tuner Message-ID: The following keys are for sale: 1. Vibroplex Lightning sn #149217 made about 1947 Base is dinged up a bit, but otherwise it plays just fine for its age. $110 shipped/insured 2. Bibroplex Deluxe Presentation bug with 24G plate on base This is the Chrome base with the gold plate covering the top surface in excellent condx. sn # 64697 bug taimer and extra weight included $150 shipped/insured I also have the original box for this bug. 3. Chinese Military handkey. Heavy Chrome base with the best action I've felt in a handkey, imho. Morsex has a pic of these on the web site. http://www.morsex.com I have the original box $60 shipped. Also in excellent condx LDG AT11 autotuner. Made by LDG and in perfect condx. $110 shipped/insured. All prices nagocible. 73 de Scott/n3byy -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From aa4nn@juno.com Sat Sep 2 09:52:16 2000 From: aa4nn@juno.com (Joe L Blackwell) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 04:52:16 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Tuners & Ten Tec Transceivers Message-ID: <20000902.045232.-5245.19.AA4NN@juno.com> HI Bob, It would really be great if you could get some friends over to install at least four radials. I don't know much about the Pro Am 30m whip, but looks to me like you have the similarities of a vertical dipole, grounded on one end. A tuner would make your radio happy, but you will still have mismatch in the antenna system. 73 & gl, de Joe Blackwell - aa4nn Bob Mauro writes: > > On 30 meters, I'm using a Pro Am 30-meter whip up about 7.5 > meters on my house. It's grounded using wire to a 7-foot ground > rod in the soil. I'm getting an SWR of 3:1 at 100 watts and > 1.6:1 when I use 20 watts. I do not have radials or a > counterpois on it the antenna. Being disabled, it's not easy to > get those installed, so I'm thinking of just getting an antenna > tuner. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu Sat Sep 2 06:32:31 2000 From: csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu (Clark Savage Turner) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 22:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TenTec] Corsair II frequency display flutter In-Reply-To: <20000902.045232.-5245.19.AA4NN@juno.com> Message-ID: I took the advice of several guys and disassembled the frequency display box and cleaned all connectors, pulled out the display and put it back, etc. No change. The last digit flutters through a range that is more than, say, my OMNI-C. I have had other Corsair II's that didn't do this. I thought I had read about a component or two that might be responsible. If anyone remembers, you can save me a call to Ten Tec, hi hi. Clark -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kh7m@hsa-kauai.net Sat Sep 2 07:45:51 2000 From: kh7m@hsa-kauai.net (Jim Reid) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 20:45:51 -1000 Subject: [TenTec] Corsair Repair Saga - Long Message-ID: <008001c014a9$77264840$aa7ad818@gw400> Hi to all Ten Tec fans, For those who might be interested, a used rig purchase saga: Back in mid-July, I bought a Model 561, Corsair II, mint condition, alleged. Rig arrived toward the end of the month -- non-operating! Symptoms: It did not play; neither rcv nor xmit. All I heard was the internal noise of the Corsair, nothing from the antenna jack is being heard. I used a coax switch to go between the Corsair and my FT-1000 and 544 Triton; so the Corsair hears nothing, 1000/544, lots of signals, same frequency. Opened the unit, and pushed on all the little plug on connectors, and the crystal cans. Nothing seemed to be out of place or loose. Still: 1. Very high receiver noise level, much higher than the band noise on any band. So high, you cannot hear noise introduced when the antenna is connected or removed! Usually the rcvr noise is 20 or 30 dB below the band noise on 20 meters. I cannot hear the band noise increase when I connect the antenna. 2. Very weak signals when any can be heard at all. I have the Ten Tec Triton 544 right beside the Corsair, with a coax switch to go between rigs with the antenna. An S9, SSB signal as heard on the Trition, is very difficult to hear/copy on the Corsair, and the Corsair S meter does NOT move! So the rcvd signal is low, and the noise introduced by the Corsair is very high. This condition holds whether using the Corsair VFO or the External 263 VFO is used for the rcv mode. 3. When following the Transmit instruction in the Corsair manual for set up, there is no output. That is, the manual specifies that one should first set the ALC control fully clockwise; next, rotate the mode switch to the LOCK position (which keys on the rig to transmit); next, rotate the DRIVE control until the ALC light just glows. The result of doing this is: no indication of output nor SWR, nor collector current shown on the meter; that is, nothing is happening or transmitted! No ALC glow. I suspected that the IF/AF board #80984 per the manual might be where the recv problem might be occurring; that is, loose connectors or something. So I looked that one over especially carefully for a loose plug or something -- could see nothing obvious wrong. Going over the Corsair II block diagram in the manual, I identified two boards through which both transmit and receive signals pass. They are: 1. Crystal filter board # 81252 2. RF Mixer board # 80987 Opened the rig up, and wiggled and removed/replaced the slip on connectors on both those boards hoping to a connection that might have been bad. Made no difference in the rig performance..... So, on August 1, called TT service, and described all to Paul Clinton, the apparent Corsair "specialist". Described the symptoms and all I had done to try to find what might have gone wrong in the shipping of the rig out here. Fellow from whom I bought the unit says all was operating FB when he unplugged, packed up and shipped the 561 and the remote VFO out to me. Paul Clinton said the best thing to do was to return to them for check out and fix. I described all the symptoms again, and what I had tried to do to find the fault. He says all has been done that could without them using test gear. He believes that one of the two boards I had already suspected has somehow gone bad; he ventured the guess that it was more likely the Crystal Filter board, the vertical one, not the CW filters. The vertical one does have both xmit and rcv signals passing through, so he agreed that was the likely trouble area, but he said you never know for sure, nor what to do to effect a repair of this sort of fault. So the rig was shipped, and the post card back from TT acknowledged receiving it on August 3rd. Today, September 1st, the Corsair returned, working FB! Has been on 10, 20 and 40 meters, QSO's on all including tonight, VK0MM down on Macquarie Island for a new one on 20 CW for me! (hoo haw...). Paul Clinton included a very complete list of what was done to rejuvenate the rig: Quite a list of things done. Seem to have been a few bad parts replaced, not sure exactly which one's caused the non-op conditions I was experiencing. Here is a copy, direct from TT's invoice of what they did: 1. Replaced Q3 on PBT board (note: nowhere near what I thought might be the problem). 2. Replaced 3 bad diodes at the mode switch(??) 3. Replaced Band switch knob (old one looked fine to me, hi) 4. Replaced L3, was open, on RF mixer board (this might have been the part which caused the rig to be non-op, not sure, and TT didn't specifically say and I have no idea from looking at the circuit in the manual exactly what L3 does; however, this is one of the two boards which I had earlier identified as having both xmit and rcv signals pass through, see back above) 5. Replaced components on LPF and SWR boards(have no idea which ones, nor why? no explanation is given for any of the work) 6. Replaced speaker and bracket(!!? I had never tried the internal speaker, had only used headphones and the speaker in the PS unit) 7. Rebuilt the PTO assembly(I had specifically requested this rebuild, as long as it was going in to the factory for service, why not) 8. Complete realignment of all stages Material cost, $29.33 (no itemized list) Labor, $175.00 Seem to be "bargain" prices for all that listed and done by Paul! Paul Clinton included a complete list of all operating functions which he tested after the repairs were completed. He indicates the date of his tests was 22nd August; that's a week ago last Tuesday. So, the complete saga for any who have read this far, hi. Which of all of the stuff above would you believe might have gone amiss during shipping? The boxes Fed Ex delivered here back in July looked pretty good. They were "soft" cardboard, and only slightly pushed in on the tops -- obviously from other stuff sitting atop them. But the Corsair and VFO inside appeared untouched as they were deep within bubble wrap and that surrounded by piles of plastic "peanuts". The obvious loose connectors and boards problem did not seem to have been the problem, but just flat out N/G component: replaced a transistor and an open coil, most probably non-operating causing fixes TT performed. All the other stuff......guess Paul just wanted to fix it up to be "as new", hi. And that is fine with me. Just wonder if the rig really could have failed in the described ways from the non-op condition when I rcvd it as described above? The seller continues to say the rig was FB at his QTH when last used, had had no problem with PBT, SWR read out, mode switch, etc; all was well, and of course was operating fine......just failed from the handling and shipping. Anyway, appears to be very FB now after being shipped back out here in a brand new TT box, hi. 73, Jim, KH7M -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From greyhounds@cyberstreet.com Sat Sep 2 15:42:20 2000 From: greyhounds@cyberstreet.com (D Bokan K3DLB) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:42:20 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Band Module Problem? Message-ID: <000b01c014ec$015d4120$a2f81ecf@ks4ki.cyberstreet.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C014CA.787ED060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, My 17 meter band module, on my Scout, is receiving a foreign broadcast = station on 18.151. I've checked the same frequency with my other radios = (same antenna etc) but only hear it on the Scout. Do I have a defective = module? 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My 17 meter band = module, on=20 my Scout, is receiving a foreign broadcast station on 18.151.  I've = checked=20 the same frequency with my other radios (same antenna etc) but only hear = it on=20 the Scout.  Do I have a defective module?
 
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Dave,=20 K3DLB 
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C014CA.787ED060-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wb2vuf@qsl.net Sat Sep 2 17:16:11 2000 From: wb2vuf@qsl.net (Bwana Bob) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 12:16:11 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Band Module Problem? References: <000b01c014ec$015d4120$a2f81ecf@ks4ki.cyberstreet.com> Message-ID: <39B127CB.9CDA9970@qsl.net> Dave, what you are hearing may be an image. According to the Scout manual, this is normal. See section 2-13 of the manual. The images are due to the "relatively low I-F of 6.144 MHz. The image comes from the shortwave band at 17.7-17.9 MHz. If you have a general coverage receiver, you might check for the same station within that band. 73, Bob WB2VUF > D Bokan K3DLB wrote: > > Hello, > > My 17 meter band module, on my Scout, is receiving a foreign broadcast > station on 18.151. I've checked the same frequency with my other > radios (same antenna etc) but only hear it on the Scout. Do I have a > defective module? > > Thanks, > Dave, K3DLB -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wb2vuf@qsl.net Sat Sep 2 17:21:45 2000 From: wb2vuf@qsl.net (Bwana Bob) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 12:21:45 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Scout 555 References: <002f01c01073$5e1b3a20$89f81ecf@ks4ki.cyberstreet.com> Message-ID: <39B12919.8E9450D7@qsl.net> The Scout receivers do hiss a bit. I think that this is because T-T does not roll off the audio response as much as other manufacturers do to mask synthesizer noise. Also, the Scout speaker has a a pretty wide frequency response so that it can deliver "crisp" audio. Wide band stereo headphones also will hear these high frequencies. I found an external speaker that works quite well with the Scout. It is a surplus Motorola mobile speaker that is sold by Hosfelt Electronics. This speaker attenuates the hiss but doesn't have that muddy sound or resonances that some speakers have. It works great on CW. 73 Bob WB2VUF > D Bokan K3DLB wrote: > > I just purchased a new Scout last week and had to return it to the > factory. It had a loud, constant "hissing" or "hash" type sound when > in receive. I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced the > same problem with their Scout? > > Thanks and 73, > Dave, K3DLB > Fort Myers, FL -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From benk8dit@serv.net Sat Sep 2 20:53:19 2000 From: benk8dit@serv.net (ben) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:53:19 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Scout 555 References: <002f01c01073$5e1b3a20$89f81ecf@ks4ki.cyberstreet.com> <39B12919.8E9450D7@qsl.net> Message-ID: <002201c01517$72385760$4145cfcf@net> ive had my scout mobile for 2 mos. w/ a clearspeach dsp speaker. it works marvelous. it looks marvelous. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Bill_Ames@hyperion.com Sat Sep 2 23:27:03 2000 From: Bill_Ames@hyperion.com (Bill_Ames@hyperion.com) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 18:27:03 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Band Module Problem? Message-ID: <8525694E.007BA739.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com> --0__=banPEIK5buhnkVYcwnexj2j1YVt9F6h1H2PKMHShfBbFRsim8aA22OIp Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline No. "D Bokan K3DLB" on 09/02/2000 10:42:20 AM To: tentec@contesting.com cc: (bcc: Bill Ames) Subject: [TenTec] Band Module Problem? Hello, My 17 meter band module, on my Scout, is receiving a foreign broadcast station on 18.151. I've checked the same frequency with my other radios (same antenna etc) but only hear it on the Scout. Do I have a defective module? 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Yes, it seems in general agreement that the RF mixer board coil, L3 which was open, was the culprit. Also that this most probably did fail during the vibration, occasional jiggle and shock of a several thousand mile trip, plus many machine and human handlings! That is just the risk one takes in having an older rig shipped a long ways. The seller was very helpful to me through this ordeal; he even called me once by phone! Am sure the rig was operating to his satisfaction when he put it out for sale. It was packed by a Mailboxes shop, all of which I paid for. In fact, the seller was the first to call Paul Clinton at TT service for ideas on where to look for the possible cause of the problem, then sent to me Clinton's phone number so that I could describe the problem and my attempts to isolate to him in detail. I did not intend for the tone of my post to place blame or doubt on the integrity of the seller! I wrote the piece as much for myself to print out and keep with all the other paper work about the rig and manuals. Also to post to solicit which among the many fixes done by Clinton was the most probable source of the problem upon my first firing up the little unit. Of course, I had suspected the RF Mixer board from the outset as a possible problem area, along with the thought that the problem could be on the Crystal Filter board (the vertical one). I believe that the unit would have worked just fine, if not absolutely perfectly, for the seller with the other many items Paul repaired in addition to the open L3 coil on the RF mixer board. I sold a Kenwood TS-950SDX several years ago. The fellow who bought it was back at me in no time with a great long list of "wrongs" with the rig, of which I was completely unaware! The audio SSB monitor did not work, on certain bands, as I recall. Well, I never used the monitor for SSB. The built-in ATU was slow/noisy; this probably built up over time, and I didn't notice, anyway, I used an external tuner and much of the time had the internal tuner OFF. He had a shop measure the sensitivity of the radio on several bands: it was not up to spec, etc., etc. The outer case had several blems -- on a side, near some of the knobs -- my vision never saw these. I learned a lot from that experience! I wound up refunding his money, of course, and paid to have him ship the radio not immediately back to me, but to the Kenwood service center for fix up and repair. There is more to that story, of course, and it was eventually sold to another, and was shipped directly to him by Kenwood from the Service Center. I even paid to have Kenwood install a new front panel to deal with blems I had never seen. If I ever sell another one of my rigs, believe I will send it first to the service facility, and have it shipped from there to the new owner, hi! In fact that will be a sale contingency: when a buyer appears, I will tell him first the rig goes in for check up and repair as needed, then on to him. I don't want to go through the frustration of such an experience as either seller or buyer again. 73, Jim, KH7M -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w1drw@home.com Sat Sep 2 04:49:21 2000 From: w1drw@home.com (David Ward) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 23:49:21 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] New N4PY Version 1.38 of Pegasus Software and Version 1.06 of RX320 Software In-Reply-To: <001b01c00e32$56c245e0$5b03450c@fayqwodp> Message-ID: Thank you Carl for your newest version. I hope Ten Tec is paying you for doing a better job than they were able to do. Your ingenuity and intelligence is to be applauded. -W1QH -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kf3dg@epix.net Sun Sep 3 04:59:29 2000 From: kf3dg@epix.net (PAUL REAMS) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 23:59:29 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] GEIHL CHIP Message-ID: <39B1CCA1.72C17DDA@epix.net> DOES ANYONE KNOW IF GEIHL CHIP FOR PARAGON 585 CAN STILL BE PURCHASED? THANKS PAUL KF3DG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n6cha@ipa.net Fri Sep 1 23:43:58 2000 From: n6cha@ipa.net (william winscott) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 17:43:58 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: TALKING COUNTER MODEL 299 & CRYSYAL CALIBRATOR MODEL 206A References: <3977358B.C7286D82@ipa.net> Message-ID: <39B0312E.E19ABE70@ipa.net> william winscott wrote: > > FOR SALE MINT TEN-TEC TALKING COUNTER MOD.299. THIS UNIT WAS DESINED FOR > VISUALLY IMPARED HAMS. FOR USE WITH OMNI D, TRITON, ARGONAUT AND PERHAPS > OTHERS. ORIGNAL MANUAL WITH UNIT. THE 206A CRYSTAL CALIBRATOR HAS > 25KHZ AND 100KHZ PULSE TONE. NO MANUAL. ASKING $120 FOR THE PAIR. BILL > N6CHA PHONE 501-648-9667 ANY TIME -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wd3q@erols.com Sun Sep 3 05:02:29 2000 From: wd3q@erols.com (Eric Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:02:29 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Controlling the 238 dial light? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000903000021.00ad0b60@pop.erols.com> Any recommendations on a switch for the dial light on my 238 tuner? It's impossible to read the meter without the light, but as I power it from the 961 PSU and leave that on all the time, the lights stay on all the time. The shack is shared with other functions, and the light is an (admittedly minor) annoyance. Thanks in advance, Eric W3DQ Washington, DC -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ac5aa@juno.com Sun Sep 3 06:05:17 2000 From: ac5aa@juno.com (Duane A Calvin) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 00:05:17 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Controlling the 238 dial light? Message-ID: <20000903.000524.-47701253.1.ac5aa@juno.com> I power mine from the Omni VI+. This way, even though my Astron 35M is on all the time, the 238 tuner lights only go on when the Omni is on. 73, Duane Duane A. Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac5aa@juno.com -or- ac5aa@earthlink.net Day: dacalvin@us.ibm.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From patents@dx0man.prestel.co.uk Sun Sep 3 09:26:32 2000 From: patents@dx0man.prestel.co.uk (John G3JAG) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 09:26:32 +0100 (BST) Subject: [TenTec] Re: Tuners & Ten Tec Transceivers In-Reply-To: <39B0405B.266C@ames.net> Message-ID: Hi Bob I entirely agree with Jerry K0CQ. I used verticals for a long time. I even have 80 radials buried in the back yard, but the 40m inverted V dipole fed with ladderline leaves the verticals for dead. I use ladderline almost to the shack, then I have a 4:1 ladderline-to-coax balun and then a few feet of RG-8 to an ATU. It works on all bands, except 160, and its not too hot on 80m, although I worked VK several times. Get the biggest ATU you can - mine is an L-match. Some of the small ones seem under-engineered and you may want to run higher power some day. I just worked the A50CDX DX-pedition to Bhutan this evening, on 30m and again on 40m CW with my Elecraft K2 running all of 10 watts. Even if it turns out to be a pirate, I still cracked a big European pile-up. Inverted V antennas and ladderline work just fine. And I did not need to switch on the Omni-V/Hercules II ! The K2 and inverted V has now accounted for way over 100 countries. 73 John G3JAG On 01-Sep-2000 Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer wrote: > > With a 7.5 meter ground wire you have a vertical effectively 15 meters > tall fed away from the bottom, quarter wave resonant at 5 MHz. It NEEDS > those radials. You would be better off with any center fed wire fed with > tuned feeders. Make the flat top (or inverted V) whatever fits between > the available supports, use ladder line for a feeder and a balanced > tuner. It can work more bands than any other antenna, limited mostly by > the tuner (unless its really short) and doesn't have that ground wire > length problem. > > 73, Jerry, K0CQ > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com ---------------------------------- E-Mail: John G3JAG Date: 02-Sep-2000 Time: 22:39:23 This message was sent by XFMail 1.4.6-1 ---------------------------------- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Sun Sep 3 12:07:57 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 07:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] Bob's antenna saga - should i add radials or... Message-ID: First, I want to thank all you antenna mavins for the great advice on my mobile whip/verticle dipole antenna. But I have one last question: As you know, I'm using a Pro-Am 30-meter whip JUST FOR 30 meters. I have an MFJ Versa Tuner II on it and the SWR is now 1.4:1. I've worked an OM and a DL on it at 459 and 559. My question is this: If I add radials to my antenna, do I remove the ground wire going to the grounding rod in the soil? Or should I leave that grounding wire in place and just add the radials? Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Sun Sep 3 12:06:48 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 07:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] Scout 555 In-Reply-To: <002201c01517$72385760$4145cfcf@net> Message-ID: TEN-TEC SCOUT, with noise blanker, mobile mount, 10, 20, 30 meter modules, 10 & 20 meter Pro-Am mobile whips. $450. Bob, KZ2G, 516-579-4043, mauro@idt.net, see rig at http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html. You pay shipping UPS Ground insured of $20. Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, ben wrote: > > ive had my scout mobile for 2 mos. w/ a clearspeach dsp speaker. > it works marvelous. it looks marvelous. > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From k8vt@ameritech.net Sun Sep 3 13:10:56 2000 From: k8vt@ameritech.net (Carter Grabarczyk) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 08:10:56 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Bob's antenna saga - should i add radials or... References: Message-ID: <39B23FD0.E976CFE0@ameritech.net> Bob, Although I am not specifically familiar with the configuration of the Pro-Am, I vote for leaving the ground wire on after you add radials-not for any RF reasons but rather for lightning protection. A vertical on the roof also looks a lot like a lightning rod! You have not mentioned what other antenna(s) you have available. It may be possible to get it (them) to load on 30. 73/Carter/K8VT Bob Mauro - PeopleNet wrote: > > > As you know, I'm using a Pro-Am 30-meter whip JUST FOR 30 meters. > I have an MFJ Versa Tuner II on it and the SWR is now 1.4:1. > I've worked an OM and a DL on it at 459 and 559. My question is > this: > > If I add radials to my antenna, do I remove the ground wire going > to the grounding rod in the soil? Or should I leave that > grounding wire in place and just add the radials? > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Ron Wicker" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0157F.485F2A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have for sale a large bag of parts to build a 229B antenna tuner. Kit = includes all new parts except inductor, tuning caps and case. There are = new knobs, meter with pcboard, front panel with backup panel, dial = string, bulbs, bag of switch parts and more. Not sure what this new = stuff is worth but might be interested in offer or trade. you can call at 281-291-9226 Ron Wicker, AA5NI....... ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0157F.485F2A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C0157F.485F2A00-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Sun Sep 3 16:31:40 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 11:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] Bob's antenna saga - should i add radials or... In-Reply-To: <39B23FD0.E976CFE0@ameritech.net> Message-ID: Well, Carter, my "dipole" for 20, 15, and 10 meters is the radiator of my old TA33 jr beam. the rest fell down in '85. And there's no rotor no more. ;-) The old Ham M-2 is a rusted boat anchor in the shed. But the "dipole" "beams" towards Europe and i've worked the world at 25 feet with it. i tried it on 30, but no luck. it has traps, of course. Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From geraldj@ames.net Sun Sep 3 15:46:00 2000 From: geraldj@ames.net (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 09:46:00 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Bob's antenna saga - should i add radials or... References: Message-ID: <39B26428.313E@ames.net> For lightning, the more grounds the better and remember you have a ground through your coax braid too. 73, Jerry, K0CQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RODKC4MMR@aol.com Sun Sep 3 21:45:54 2000 From: RODKC4MMR@aol.com (RODKC4MMR@aol.com) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:45:54 EDT Subject: [TenTec] TEN TEC FS 546B 280 PS Message-ID: <70.2b6376f.26e41282@aol.com> I have aquired an Omni d series b 546 b whitch after lots of cleaning and checking is now for sale or trade . it has no warc bands and has had some holes drilled in back and a spk jack added for ext spk . the frace is very clean and for the most part the unit is in great working order asking $ 350.00 or tentec trade or any other offer will be concidered. I also have a 280 power supply this unit is clean but has been painted so it is not mint any way works great asking $100.00 or trade and will look ata package deal for both if necessary. I can be reached at 813 654 3236 or email your number and I will call you 73 ROD KC4MMR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From cherry@neta.com Mon Sep 4 00:30:48 2000 From: cherry@neta.com (Jim FitzSimons) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 16:30:48 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Bob's antenna saga - should i add radials or... References: Message-ID: <002f01c015fe$fe32ea40$bbae7cce@pavilion> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Mauro - PeopleNet" Bob, leave all the ground and radials. They all work together. The radials will only work on the frequency where they are tuned. I have a old book printed in 1974 called The Amateur Radio Vertical Antenna Handbook. What is in there is still good today. Physics does not change. For a tower antenna for 40, 75, and 160 he had 16 radials all different lengths and a ground stake at the base of the tower for static and lightning drain. The antenna was made from a 40 feet aluminum ladder. With antennas you can scale things. You can use the same design on higher frequencies by making everything smaller. If you really get into antenna design and modeling you can use EZNEC. I have EXNEC 3.0.2. Another book printed in 1979 Vertical, Beam, and Triangle Antennas Has a 10-15-20 vertical ground system. That antenna used resonate sections of guy wires for the radials. Another book printed in 1972 Simple , Low-Cost Wire Antennas for Radio Amateurs. Build a ground plane for 80, 40, 20, 15, 10 Meters He used seperate guy wires resonate for each band. He says sloping radials give a better match, so using guy wires for radials is a good idea. I do not know why he put this in an antenna book, but he has a picture of this woman on the roof holding the vertical. "Antennas are like blondes --there are only two types: good and better!" Best regards, Jim FitzSimons W7ANF To: Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 4:07 AM Subject: [TenTec] Bob's antenna saga - should i add radials or... > > First, I want to thank all you antenna mavins for the great > advice on my mobile whip/verticle dipole antenna. But I have one > last question: > > As you know, I'm using a Pro-Am 30-meter whip JUST FOR 30 meters. > I have an MFJ Versa Tuner II on it and the SWR is now 1.4:1. > I've worked an OM and a DL on it at 459 and 559. My question is > this: > > If I add radials to my antenna, do I remove the ground wire going > to the grounding rod in the soil? Or should I leave that > grounding wire in place and just add the radials? > > Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kf3dg@epix.net Tue Sep 5 02:18:26 2000 From: kf3dg@epix.net (PAUL REAMS) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 21:18:26 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] HERCULES II POWER SUPPLY Message-ID: <39B449E2.3FC330AD@epix.net> I AM ACQUIRING A HERCULES II,BUT NO P/S. WILL AN ASTRON 70M FILL MY NEEDS FOR SSB? ITS RATED @ 57 AMPS CONT.,70 SURGE. THANKS PAUL KF3DG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From KF6ZZ@aol.com Mon Sep 4 03:20:34 2000 From: KF6ZZ@aol.com (KF6ZZ@aol.com) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 22:20:34 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Design flaws in the TT 1201 Desk Mic..... Message-ID: After completing my TT 1201 Desk Mic kit, I experienced abismally low audio output ---- not enough to drive my Corsair II, and not enough to drive my Scout, even with their mic gain pots at max. Turns out that the electret mic element is under-biased . Bias resistor R11 is 22k --- about ten times to large, starving the mic element of necessary bias-current. It therefore cannot develop the typical 10~30 mv that you can expect from this type of transducer. Dropping R11 by a factor of 10x , from 22k down to 2200 ohms, brought the output up enough to easily drive the CII and Scout to full power ! The second problem is low frequency roll-off. Capacitor C2 ( .022 uf ) and the combined resistance of R2 and R14 ( approx 8800 ohms ) set the low end 3db corner of the TL061 op-amp circuit at about ~ 800 hz. Which is a bit high. This corner frequency should be well below 300 hz. Changing C2 by a factor of 10x from .022 uf to .22 uf will move the 3 db low end roll-off below 100 hz. I suspect both of these wrong component values arose from simple typos. Looks likeTT slipped a decimal point. This probably happened when the 705 microphone was offered as a kit and the internal TT documentation was re-written for the masses.....makes one wonder if TT has ever built one from their own kit instructions ? Since I made these changes, the 1201 (aka 705 ) seems to be performing marvelously. Anyone else built this kit ? Anyone comments / comparisons on the 705 factory model ? 73, - Phil KF6ZZ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From res043pa@gte.net Mon Sep 4 04:00:32 2000 From: res043pa@gte.net (CDF) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 23:00:32 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Noise Blanker Needed Message-ID: <001901c0161c$4b5c2800$a96a1b3f@eypwndog> Hello all. I am looking for the TT #223 A Noise Blanker for my Argosy II 525 D. If you have one that you would like to part with please email me with the price. It needs to be The A version for my radio. Thanks Charlie ****************************************************** The Truth Is Out There. This Is Who WE Are ****************************************************** WA8CUL QRP-L #1752 Charles D. Feigley Sr SOC #394 1516 Toledo St. TT Argosy II @ 5 W Holiday, Florida 34690 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From KF6ZZ@aol.com Mon Sep 4 15:29:37 2000 From: KF6ZZ@aol.com (KF6ZZ@aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:29:37 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Design flaws in the TT 1201 Desk Mic..... Message-ID: <55.a74bb19.26e50bd1@aol.com> In a message dated 00-09-04 09:33:09 EDT, you write: << Have you checked the voltage to the mic from your Corsair 2 ? I think the 201 manual says that the Corsair-2 is supposed to work fine with the mic, but it might be worth a simple voltage check anyway. >> Yes, the voltage from the Corsair is a good solid 8.5 volts DC. One of the first things I did when I bought the CII was to jumper the 10k resistor on the AF board with a 47 ohm resistor to provide plenty of current at the mic connector for any external mic I might be using. And it worked fine with other mics I have here. I have had a fair amount of experience designing low-level preamps for electret mic elements, and have always found that the electret element needs to be biased with less than ~ 5 to 6 k to achieve adequate output. Usually 1~3 k is about right. The 22k bias resistor in the 1201 mic is ten times too large. Another few changes I didn't mention, but oughta be put in as well --- the top of C1 should be moved to the other side of L1 ( for better RFI filtering ); and --- it wouldn't hurt to add a ~ 10 uf cap on the 'M+ red line' ( input power ) for decoupling ( just good engineering practice ). -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From at060@chebucto.ns.ca Mon Sep 4 16:46:01 2000 From: at060@chebucto.ns.ca (David McClafferty) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:46:01 -0300 (ADT) Subject: [TenTec] Pegasus & Digital Modes Message-ID: The Pegasus does a great job with digital modes. It could be even better if the DSP chip could be programmed to demodulate directly to text or video for SSTV. I have thought about doing this but don't have the tools or capability. It would have no great advantage for text modes like PSK-31 were we already get perfect copy, but for SSTV it offers digital video with no distortion even with multi-generation copies. Just thought I would throw this idea out there in case there is someone with the capbility of re-programming the DSP chip. Just think, no sound card needed. Dave, VE1ADH -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From winjones@ix.netcom.com Mon Sep 4 13:55:54 2000 From: winjones@ix.netcom.com (Winston F. Jones) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:55:54 -0000 Subject: [TenTec] Design flaws in the TT 1201 Desk Mic..... References: Message-ID: <002901c0166f$76b30ac0$648456d1@winstonj> I built the TT 1201 kit a couple of years ago. It works fine with my Corsair I, as built with 22K resistor. I did not make the change in the Corsair circuit, so I'm using it with a 9V battery. Winston K4CWQ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 02:20 AM Subject: [TenTec] Design flaws in the TT 1201 Desk Mic..... > > After completing my TT 1201 Desk Mic kit, > I experienced abismally low audio output ---- > not enough to drive my Corsair II, > and not enough to drive my Scout, > even with their mic gain pots at max. > > Turns out that the electret mic element is under-biased . > > Bias resistor R11 is 22k --- about ten times to large, starving the mic > element of necessary bias-current. > It therefore cannot develop the typical 10~30 mv that you can expect from > this type of transducer. > > Dropping R11 by a factor of 10x , from 22k down to 2200 ohms, brought the > output up enough to easily drive the CII and Scout to full power ! > > The second problem is low frequency roll-off. > Capacitor C2 ( .022 uf ) and the combined resistance of R2 and R14 approx > 8800 ohms ) set the low end 3db corner of the > TL061 op-amp circuit at about ~ 800 hz. > > Which is a bit high. > This corner frequency should be well below 300 hz. > > Changing C2 by a factor of 10x from .022 uf to .22 uf > will move the 3 db low end roll-off below 100 hz. > > I suspect both of these wrong component values arose from simple typos. > Looks likeTT slipped a decimal point. This probably happened when the 705 > microphone was offered as a kit and the internal TT documentation was > re-written for the masses.....makes one wonder if TT has ever built one from > their own kit instructions ? > > Since I made these changes, the 1201 (aka 705 ) seems to be performing > marvelously. > > Anyone else built this kit ? > > Anyone comments / comparisons on the 705 factory model ? > > 73, > - Phil KF6ZZ > > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kh7m@hsa-kauai.net Tue Sep 5 00:01:45 2000 From: kh7m@hsa-kauai.net (Jim Reid) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:01:45 -1000 Subject: [TenTec] Problems? Corasir II, back from TT Service Message-ID: <00cd01c016c4$23afd1a0$aa7ad818@gw400> Hi all, My Corsair II, Mod. 561, just arrived back from Ten Tec Service on Friday morning. Note previous post about all the fixes performed. Now have two problems which worry me. 1. Power out at initial turn on is very low, 14 watts. In fact, the manual procedure: set ALC full CW, place mode to LOCK, then advance Drive to reach desired output power until the ALC LED just lights. Well, nothing happens when I do this. Go to CW, same thing, that is, no more than 14 watts out, and of course, no ALC light. Go to SB-N, same thing no more than 14 out. Then turn on the Processor, now sometimes all of a sudden, 80 watts comes out on SSB peaks, and the ALC light illuminates. Once this occurs, even with a band QSY or mode change to CW, the 80 watts and ALC light perform. Other times, even turning on the Processor will not "tickle" whatever needs a tweak to output "full" power. But what will work at this time, is to switch the mode to SB-R; bingo, often the power out jumps from the 14 to 80 watts when using the PTT again on the 705 and talking. Does anyone else have to go to the dummy load, enter the SSB mode, fiddle with the Processor to get out the power, then go back to CW and your antenna??? 2. Did some comparative rcv checks among my Omni VI, my older Triton 544, and the Corsair II. That is when I discovered that there were multiple 10 meter band positions on the band switch, hi. The Corsair sensitivity is well down if one is listening around 28490 to 500 or above, and the band switch is still set to the 28.0 position instead of the 28.5 position. That seemed to recover the rcv sensitivity of the Corsair, but did not recover an S meter reading? That is, moderate signal levels rcvd on the Omni or Triton might read in the S6 to 7 area on the Omni, while the little Triton might read S87 or 9 on the same signal, the Corsair S meter refused to move off the left peg! Tuning to much stronger signals, S9+ on both Omni and Triton, still no S meter life on the Corsair. I wondered if the AGC was even operating, so flipped the AGC switch down to off -- bam, huge jump in audio out, so the AGC is there and operating, but no meter indication of an AGC voltage. Of course, lack of an S meter is not really a big deal, hi. Anyway, I plan to call Paul Clinton, Service Mngr. at TT on Tuesday. He signed the check out sheet of my Corsair II; however, the test sheet is dated 8-22-00, and is initialed, RH. So, perhaps Paul did not do the actual list of tests shown as having been performed. Hope he can suggest something for me to do output the power output problem; maybe something as simple as how I got rcv sensitivity back in the SSB DX area on 10 meters, hi. 73, Jim, KH7M -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From at060@chebucto.ns.ca Tue Sep 5 17:39:20 2000 From: at060@chebucto.ns.ca (David McClafferty) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:39:20 -0300 (ADT) Subject: [TenTec] Pegasus & Digital Modes In-Reply-To: <016301c016e3$62ea8da0$9d2267cf@sfb> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Steve Baron - KB3MM wrote: > Wonder if the DSP they used has 'extra horse power' ? ANy idea how busy it > is ? > According to the programming manual ther is room for other programs beside the current TT version in the chip. I have poked around Analog Devices website looking for more info on the chip (ADSP2181) but there doesn't seem to be much about porgramming. They make demo kit for that series of chips which includes an Assembler/linker. I was considering buying one but I think it would be a big job even with a high level langauge. 73, Dave, VE1ADH -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From KF6ZZ@aol.com Tue Sep 5 18:13:42 2000 From: KF6ZZ@aol.com (KF6ZZ@aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:13:42 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Design flaws in the TT 1201 Desk Mic ..... Message-ID: In a message dated 00-09-04 23:02:32 EDT, you wrote: << Subj: Re: [TenTec] Design flaws in the TT 1201 Desk Mic..... >>Date: 00-09-04 23:02:32 EDT >>From: Steve Baron@StarLinX.com (Steve Baron - KB3MM) >>To: KF6ZZ@aol.com >>Thanks. >>But OOPS ! I should have said what brand >>and model element do they use . Steve OM --- TT does not specify the manufacturer of the electret element supplied in the 1201 T-kit. However, it bears an uncanny resemblance to a surplus ATT cell-phone microphone sold by All Electronics of Van Nuys Califronia. About a year ago, I bought a box of those ATT mics and dismantled them for the electret element ( for some other projects of mine ) . When I opened the TenTec kit , I noticed that the mic element looked EXACTLY like the one in the ATT microphone. Same dimensions, same aluminium case, same pattern of holes in the front, same terminals on the rear, same little green printed circuit board on the rear, same traces on the circuit board, and so on ... Perhaps the mic element was manufactured by Electro Voice, since TT was founded by an engineer from EV, and is right across the street from the TT factory, there in Tennessee. And they are probably still good buddies.... And the 1201 manual brags that the 1201 microphone was characterized at the EV facility, right across the street. I suppose it is also believable that ATT would buy their mic elements from a company like EV ..... Maybe we oughta have a look at EV's web page for info on their microphone elements .... The mystery deepens.... CUL - Phil KF6ZZ p.s. Did you build the TT-1201 kit ??? -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kh7m@hsa-kauai.net Tue Sep 5 20:49:00 2000 From: kh7m@hsa-kauai.net (Jim Reid) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 09:49:00 -1000 Subject: [TenTec] Intermittent Pout, Corsair II Message-ID: <00ab01c01772$5a5f9ce0$aa7ad818@gw400> Hi again, Called Paul at TT Service as planned this morning. He had me do a couple of things, then asked that I hang up, and test the Corsair using a direct hook up between my Bird 43, with a 100 watt slug, and from their direct to the Bird "coaxial resistor", aka dummy load, hi. This to eliminate possible intermittents in the antenna/coax set up. Used different coax in the test set up. Result: once again, upon Corsair turn on, only 18 watts reading on the Bird when in Corsair Lock position. Switching to SB-N would bring the power out up to 92 watts, and the collector current (per the Corsair meter) would increase from around 7A to 15 A. Called Paul back. He had me jiggle both the band switch and the mode switch, no impact on P out. Rig was in the 18 watt, 7A condition when I called. He suggested I "bop" the top of the Corsair; did, immediately the power popped up to 92 watts, and the collector current jumped back up to 15 amps! Paul said, "Ok, you have a connection intermittent somewhere!". Advised to open the rig, and again check all the push on interconnects, board seatings, hold down nuts, etc. But at least the cause of the problem type is identified. So shall now begin the search for a not quite perfect interconnect in there somewhere. Guess shipping these boxes back and forth some 5000 miles has cost beyond the Fed Ex cost, hi. 73, Jim, KH7M On Kauai -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wa5jci@flash.net Wed Sep 6 20:56:04 2000 From: wa5jci@flash.net (Spencer Petri) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:56:04 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Intermittent Pout, Corsair II References: <00ab01c01772$5a5f9ce0$aa7ad818@gw400> Message-ID: <00d201c0183c$7ec7c6a0$3a7cd7d8@default> > He suggested I "bop" the top of the Corsair; did, > immediately the power popped up to 92 watts, and > the collector current jumped back up to 15 amps! Ah so, the time tested method of troubleshooting and repairing. es 73 de Pete WA5JCI EM21 6 meter VUCC # 361/656-WAS # 490-WAC CW 2 meter VUCC # 346/188 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jeff@n9avg.org Tue Sep 5 19:56:59 2000 From: jeff@n9avg.org (Jeff Davis) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:56:59 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Intermittent Pout, Corsair II In-Reply-To: <00d201c0183c$7ec7c6a0$3a7cd7d8@default>; from wa5jci@flash.net on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 02:56:04PM -0500 References: <00ab01c01772$5a5f9ce0$aa7ad818@gw400> <00d201c0183c$7ec7c6a0$3a7cd7d8@default> Message-ID: <20000905145659.A3430@n9avg.org> Quoting Spencer Petri (wa5jci@flash.net) [000906 14:56]: > > > He suggested I "bop" the top of the Corsair; did, > > immediately the power popped up to 92 watts, and > > the collector current jumped back up to 15 amps! > > Ah so, the time tested method of troubleshooting and repairing. The next step has GOT to include duct tape ..... :-) -- jeff davis, n9avg http://n9avg.org/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kh7m@hsa-kauai.net Tue Sep 5 22:17:18 2000 From: kh7m@hsa-kauai.net (Jim Reid) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:17:18 -1000 Subject: [TenTec] Intermittent Pout, Corsair II References: <00ab01c01772$5a5f9ce0$aa7ad818@gw400> <00d201c0183c$7ec7c6a0$3a7cd7d8@default> <20000905145659.A3430@n9avg.org> Message-ID: <003401c0177e$b146cfe0$aa7ad818@gw400> > > > He suggested I "bop" the top of the Corsair; did, > > > immediately the power popped up to 92 watts, and > > > the collector current jumped back up to 15 amps! > > > > Ah so, the time tested method of troubleshooting and repairing. > > The next step has GOT to include duct tape ..... Have just completed the look over/push the connectors, jiggle boards process. Thought for sure I had found the culprit: a very loose push on connector in the final amp "compartment" right under the inner section cover. There was a "loose" push on, which moved quite a bit more "on" to the mating "socket" pins when I pushed on it. This one even had a red wire! Was sure that was feeding directly in to the final output devices. So buttoned all back up and fired up the rig. 18 watts out, bop the top of the unit, and back comes the "full" power out!? Oh well, if it will work this way, will use the Corsair this way, hi. Not worth another $100 for a round trip air fare to TT service for now. Maybe it will get a lot worse, and be easier to find, either by me or them later. 73, Jim, KH7M -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n6cha@ipa.net Tue Sep 5 23:17:10 2000 From: n6cha@ipa.net (william winscott) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 17:17:10 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] CORSAIR 11 INTERMITTENT Message-ID: <39B570E6.CE15AC89@ipa.net> HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF HAVEING A CHAT WITH FED X ABOUT YOUR PROBLEM ? SQUEKING WHEEL GETS LOTS OF GREASE . -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From KF6ZZ@aol.com Tue Sep 5 23:46:53 2000 From: KF6ZZ@aol.com (KF6ZZ@aol.com) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:46:53 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Intermittent Power out, Corsair II Message-ID: <71.6577193.26e6d1dd@aol.com> Hey Jim --- Perhaps a can of freeze spray would be useful to modulate the failure mode .... I have found that thermal shock is a most efficient method for isolating bad connections, cold solder joints, and marginal components. At $8 a can , it's a lot cheaper than shipping your CII five thousand miles. Good luck, 73, - Phil KF6ZZ p.s. >>>> I have always been under-impressed with the chinsy power connectors TT ( and everyone else ! ) puts on their HF radios. The famous Cannon 'D' connectors so common in the computer world are good for 5 amps per pin and would be a vast improvement over the existing power connectors. These days the 'D' connectors are dirt cheap too ! less than a buck each ! ( Coupla years back I stopped in at HRO to pick up an extra power cord for my TS-430 and they wanted $35 !!!! for 6 feet of wire and a plastic plug !!! ) A 9 pin or 15 pin power 'D' connector would have lower resistance and hence lower voltage drop across the connection. One of these days I am gonna retrofit all my HF gear with homebrew D-connector power cords. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jkoppi@pclink.com Wed Sep 6 03:08:15 2000 From: jkoppi@pclink.com (Joseph Koppi) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 21:08:15 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] FS: Omni D/C $400 Message-ID: <007c01c017a7$52d8efa0$9f010bce@jkoppi> I have for sale an Omni D Series C with the TT 217 (500 Hz) and 218 filters (1.8 Khz), Remote 263 VFO, and power supply. Tx offset function does not work, but otherwise the rig works as advertised and is very clean. $400 plus shipping. No CODs. Respond via email. Joe,WØSU jkoppi@pclink.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From KF6ZZ@aol.com Wed Sep 6 05:40:19 2000 From: KF6ZZ@aol.com (KF6ZZ@aol.com) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:40:19 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Design flaws in the TT 1201 Desk Mic..... Message-ID: <3a.a0703a9.26e724b3@aol.com> In a message dated 00-09-05 23:35:01 EDT > "Bob" K4TAX wrote: << Ahh, the 47 ohm resistor looks like a short to the electret element. Current is not an issue, polarization voltage is an issue. Also, impedance is an issue. The original 10K provides a much higher Z impedance when one considers a power supply source as near 0 ohms. >> In the 1201 kit manual, TenTec specifies changing the 10k down to 470 ohms for the purposes of guaranteeing adequate current to the entire 1201 microphone circuit; which includes electret mic bias, TL061 op-amp supply current, and several milliamps to power the LED in the microphone base. Total of about ~5 milliamps. You will never get that from 10k and a 8.5 VDC supply --- The most you could ever get from 10k and a 8.5 volt supply is: 8.5/1e4 = 850 microamps..... A bit lean .... - Phil KF6ZZ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From seweber@netnitco.net Wed Sep 6 08:51:01 2000 From: seweber@netnitco.net (seweber@netnitco.net) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 02:51:01 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Intermittent Pout, Corsair II In-Reply-To: <20000905145659.A3430@n9avg.org> References: <00d201c0183c$7ec7c6a0$3a7cd7d8@default>; from wa5jci@flash.net on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 02:56:04PM -0500 <00ab01c01772$5a5f9ce0$aa7ad818@gw400> <00d201c0183c$7ec7c6a0$3a7cd7d8@default> Message-ID: At 1:56 PM -0500 9/5/00, Jeff Davis wrote: >Quoting Spencer Petri (wa5jci@flash.net) [000906 14:56]: >> >> > He suggested I "bop" the top of the Corsair; did, >> > immediately the power popped up to 92 watts, and >> > the collector current jumped back up to 15 amps! >> >> Ah so, the time tested method of troubleshooting and repairing. > >The next step has GOT to include duct tape ..... > >:-) > Did you know that duct tape is made from baling wire hammered out real thin, then woven into a mesh and coated with chewing gum? Really! I read it on the internet so it must be true! Steve KD9BO 73 de Steve Weber, KD9BO -- An infinite number of rednecks in an infinite number of pickup trucks firing an infinite number of shotguns at an infinite number of road signs would eventually produce all of Shakespeare's plays in Braille. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From sales@tentec.com Wed Sep 6 14:01:26 2000 From: sales@tentec.com (Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:01:26 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten-Tec used/demo list Sept. 6, 2000 Message-ID: <4.1.20000906085600.009fcea0@208.55.110.21> Current as of September 6, 2000 The following equipment is available as used equipment direct from Ten-Tec. 30 day warranty, 10 day trial period, shipping is additional. Exception: used linears warrantied 30 days except for final tubes which carry no warranty. Used items often sell quickly. Please make sure we have the item in stock before sending payment. Transceivers: 540 analog Triton IV $325 546-D Omni-D $450 555NB Scout w/noise blanker $412.50 562 Omni-V $1225 563 Omni-VI $1750 563-OPT1 Omni-VI upgraded with DSP chips $1825 563-OPT3 Omni-VI upgraded to Omni-VI Plus $2075 585 Paragon $995 Other items: 243 remote VFO Omni A/C/D $125 280 power supply Omni A/C/D, Delta 580 $90 700C hand mic $17.50 The following equipment is available as demo gear and carries a 1 year parts and labor warranty, 30 day trial period. Shipping is additional. We have several RX-320 demo units in at present - until they're sold we'll be selling them at $260 each (normally $280). RX-320 PC Radio $260 291 antenna tuner $84.55 296 Scout mobile bracket $18.53 302 Pegasus remote encoder/keypad $132.05 416 Titan II amp $2840.50 550 Pegasus $850.25 555 Scout $540.55 555NB Scout w/noise blanker $564.30 564 Omni VI Plus $2326.50 701 hand mic $21.60 705 desk mic $84.55 801 160m Scout module $32.30 802 80m " $32.30 803 40m " $32.30 804 30m " $32.30 805 20m " $32.30 806 17m " $32.30 807 15m " $32.30 808 12m " $32.30 809 10m " $32.30 937 Scout PS $75.05 1208A 20-to-6 meter transverter $151.00 1209A 2-to-6 meter transverter $151.00 1260A 6m FM transceiver $280.25 "New, old stock" inventory available, shipping is additional: 4012 12 meter mobile antenna $15.00 73, Stan Brock, WDØBGS Ten-Tec Sales ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ten-Tec, Inc., 1185 Dolly Parton Pkwy, Sevierville, TN 37862 USA Contact Mon-Fri Eastern: Office/Tech (865) 453-7172 9 am-5 pm. Repair (865) 428-0364 8-4. Sales (800) 833-7373 9 am-5:30 pm. Fax (865) 428-4483 24 hrs. Visit us at --->--->---> Please note: E-mail for sales and general product info only. We presently do not offer repair, parts, or kit building tech support by electronic mail, please telephone (865) 428-0364 or (865) 453-7172. Ten-Tec manufactures amateur radio equipment, military and com- mercial use HF radio equipment, custom aluminum and steel enclosures and has an on-premises, fully equipped tool and die facility supplying metal and plastic injection mold industries. Potential tool and die, custom enclosure or communications electronics customer? Contact us with your needs. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ki6pr@elite.net Wed Sep 6 16:06:26 2000 From: ki6pr@elite.net (Mike Siegel) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:06:26 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] 961 P/S Xmit Noise? Message-ID: <003101c01814$08324a60$0fde3ece@default> Greetings All, When I first purchased my Omni-V (many years ago), it came with a Model 961 P/S. I vaguely remember some reports of noise generated by the supply. Since then, I have been using the supply to operate a Paragon (for several years, in fact). Recently, I started receiving reports of RF on my audio. After some checking around, it appears to be only on certain frequencies, and the problem seems to clear up (mostly) when the P/S is moved away from the rig. Is there another fix, or mods to reduce the problem? The P/S cable is only so long, so I can only get so much separation from the rig. Other suggestions? Thanks & 73, Mike KI6PR El Rancho R.F., CA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kf3dg@epix.net Thu Sep 7 23:04:29 2000 From: kf3dg@epix.net (PAUL REAMS) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 18:04:29 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] GIEHL CHIP QUERY Message-ID: <39B810ED.6820C8B4@epix.net> ANYONE HAVE A SPARE GIEHL CHIP FOR A PARAGON 585 THEY WOULD LIKE TO SELL? REPLY TO KF3DG@EPIX.NET TNX (((73))) PAUL -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jmerril1@twcny.rr.com Wed Sep 6 23:42:29 2000 From: jmerril1@twcny.rr.com (John L Merrill) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 18:42:29 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] 961 P/S Xmit Noise? References: <003101c01814$08324a60$0fde3ece@default> Message-ID: <001801c01853$bced62c0$0300a8c0@jmerril1> As I recall from a QST review, there was a problem of induced ac when the supply was close to one side of the radio, causing the transmit signal to sound bad. You might try putting the power supply on the other side of the radio and far away as possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Siegel" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:06 AM Subject: [TenTec] 961 P/S Xmit Noise? > > Greetings All, > > When I first purchased my Omni-V (many years ago), it came with a Model 961 > P/S. I vaguely remember some reports of noise generated by the supply. > > Since then, I have been using the supply to operate a Paragon (for several > years, in fact). Recently, I started receiving reports of RF on my audio. > After some checking around, it appears to be only on certain frequencies, > and the problem seems to clear up (mostly) when the P/S is moved away from > the rig. > > Is there another fix, or mods to reduce the problem? The P/S cable is only > so long, so I can only get so much separation from the rig. Other > suggestions? > > Thanks & 73, > Mike KI6PR > El Rancho R.F., CA > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gtown@wmis.net Wed Sep 6 03:32:52 2000 From: gtown@wmis.net (Craig Rockwell) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 22:32:52 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] OMNO V FOR SALE Message-ID: <39B5ACD3.2915FA80@wmis.net> Just back from Ten Tec with full factory check over Omni V in perfect operating condition - filters from factory -nonsmoker $900.00 plus shipping . Am looking for, and would trade with someone for Herc II (+cash??) Craig KD8LU gtown@wmis.net -- MZ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kf3dg@epix.net Thu Sep 7 20:10:23 2000 From: kf3dg@epix.net (PAUL REAMS) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:10:23 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] GIEHL CHIP FOR PARAGON Message-ID: <39B7E81F.7C8D5646@epix.net> I'M IN NEED OF A GHIEL CHIP FOR MY PARAGON. IF ANYONE HAS A SPARE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SELL,PLEASE CONTACT ME. KF3DG@EPIX.NET TNX (((73)))PAUL -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wb2vuf@qsl.net Thu Sep 7 01:22:17 2000 From: wb2vuf@qsl.net (Bwana Bob) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:22:17 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] 961 P/S Xmit Noise? References: <003101c01814$08324a60$0fde3ece@default> <001801c01853$bced62c0$0300a8c0@jmerril1> Message-ID: <39B6DFB9.18F07D0E@qsl.net> The hum induced in transmitted signals was caused by the 60 Hz AC field from the power transformer coupling into the PTO. Apparently the PTO coils are very sensitive to induced magnetic fields. The Corsairs and Omnis use PTO's but the Paragon uses a synthesizer, so this is probably not your problem. See if it happens on every band. You may actually have an RF groundign problem or stray RF in the shack. 73, Bob WB2VUF John L Merrill wrote: > > As I recall from a QST review, there was a problem of induced ac when the > supply was close to one side of the radio, causing the transmit signal to > sound bad. You might try putting the power supply on the other side of the > radio and far away as possible. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Siegel" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:06 AM > Subject: [TenTec] 961 P/S Xmit Noise? > > > > > Greetings All, > > > > When I first purchased my Omni-V (many years ago), it came with a Model > 961 > > P/S. I vaguely remember some reports of noise generated by the supply. > > > > Since then, I have been using the supply to operate a Paragon (for several > > years, in fact). Recently, I started receiving reports of RF on my audio. > > After some checking around, it appears to be only on certain frequencies, > > and the problem seems to clear up (mostly) when the P/S is moved away from > > the rig. > > > > Is there another fix, or mods to reduce the problem? The P/S cable is only > > so long, so I can only get so much separation from the rig. Other > > suggestions? > > > > Thanks & 73, > > Mike KI6PR > > El Rancho R.F., CA > > > > > > > > -- > > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From timscot@lightspeed.net Thu Sep 7 04:24:19 2000 From: timscot@lightspeed.net (timscot) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:24:19 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Newbie help Pegasus Message-ID: <000a01c0187b$1e6a4960$a309fea9@dad> from: Tim Scott (KQ6UF) well like I said I didnt have recieve on my new Pegasus ... being a brave soul that I am I decided to take a look inside the box! I also unplugged and re-plugged all cables inside Hmmmm, I decided to try it again, HEY it worked ... well gotta give someone credit! might as well take it myself, anyway hope this might help anyone else having a simular problem, check all the connectors even the ones on the boards. 73 de Tim -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Toneyfam@proaxis.com Thu Sep 7 19:41:27 2000 From: Toneyfam@proaxis.com (Mike Toney) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 11:41:27 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Paragon Vs Paragon II Message-ID: <011401c018fb$50818fa0$30c46ac6@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_010F_01C018C0.8EDB5460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Being unfamiliar with the later Tentec gear, can anyone give me a brief, = but thorough rundown of the differences between the Paragon and the = Paragon II. I've beento the Tentec website and have read the spec's on = both radios, but would like some input from someone who is familiar with = both radios. I'm going for one or the other, and need to know whether = to hold out for a Paragon II or just go with the Paragon. I know this = has probably been beaten to death over the years, but time permitting = could someone fill me in? I have a line on a Paragon and if the plus's = aren't worth it I'll go that way. Thanks a bunch.... = 73 = Mike/W7CNA ------=_NextPart_000_010F_01C018C0.8EDB5460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Being unfamiliar with the later Tentec = gear, can=20 anyone give me a brief, but thorough rundown of the differences between = the=20 Paragon and the Paragon II.  I've beento the Tentec website and = have read=20 the spec's on both radios, but would like some input from someone who is = familiar with both radios.  I'm going for one or the other, and = need to=20 know whether to hold out for a Paragon II or just go with the = Paragon.  I=20 know this has probably been beaten to death over the years, but time = permitting=20 could someone fill me in?  I have a line on a Paragon and if the = plus's=20 aren't worth it I'll go that way.
Thanks a bunch....
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       =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20             =    =20     Mike/W7CNA
------=_NextPart_000_010F_01C018C0.8EDB5460-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ki6pr@elite.net Fri Sep 8 18:06:21 2000 From: ki6pr@elite.net (Mike Siegel) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:06:21 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] 961 P/S Xmit Noise Fix Message-ID: <001501c019b7$1f95e280$35de3ece@default> Thanks to all for your replys on my xmit noise problem. Bottom line is that I moved the p/s to the right-hand side of the Paragon, and the noise went away. I vaguely remembered something about that, from back when I originally bought the p/s for another rig, but had completely forgotten about it until you folks jogged my memory. Problem solved. 73 & Thanks Mike KI6PR El Rancho R.F., CA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From JBeamer@PanAmSat.com Fri Sep 8 15:50:03 2000 From: JBeamer@PanAmSat.com (Beamer, Jay) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:50:03 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec User's Net Message-ID: <51D11BFF2C20D41199D60050DA1C5873C808@LBHEXCH2> Happy Friday to All! Just the reminder for the net this Sunday on 14.267 +/- at 3 pm local pacific, 4 pm local mountain, 5 pm local central, 6 pm local eastern, or 2200 UTC. Will/KC5QWE and myself will be hosting the net! Have a nice weekend! Jay/KM6VX Torrance, Ca. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From cooperj@jobe.net Fri Sep 8 18:40:12 2000 From: cooperj@jobe.net (John Cooper) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:40:12 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Model 962 Message-ID: <001f01c019bb$d922f720$9cbf22d0@computer> Hello, Is it also recommended to place the Model 962 power supply on the right side of the Omni 6? I don't operate much on SSB but no one has told me of any noise problems. 73, John K0OI -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Fri Sep 8 18:56:14 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:56:14 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Model 962 Message-ID: <20000908.135620.-998895.3.gctotten@juno.com> I have had the power supply on top of the radio with no problems. If the bridge rectifier is OK ( all the diodes are the same ) there should be very little magnetic field outside the power supply case. Jerry K8JRO -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From khopper@uchicago.edu Fri Sep 8 23:03:24 2000 From: khopper@uchicago.edu (Ken Hopper) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 17:03:24 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Picture of new Jupiter Message-ID: <39B9622C.24BB7DBE@uchicago.edu> Check out my emerging website for a nifty picture of the slick new Ten-Tec Jupiter. http://home.uchicago.edu/~khopper/jupiter.html dit dit de Ken N9VV http://www.qsl.net/n9vv I have NO association with any vendor. This is my HOBBY! -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From timscot@lightspeed.net Sat Sep 9 02:02:57 2000 From: timscot@lightspeed.net (timscot) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:02:57 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] A pegasus with no tail Message-ID: <000901c019f9$b2916cc0$a309fea9@dad> Tim Scott (KQ6UF) timscot@lightspeed.net Well fellas I purchased a spankin new Pegasus, it arrived on 9-6-00 Wow the 1st new radio I have purchased since becomming a HAM I was very happy to say the least, opening the package and reading the brief manual, ID'ing all the parts and installing the software onto my PC ... all the preliminaries outta the way I followed the instructions and started up the program and pegasus, I smiled as the pegasus was reconized but something was wrong, the Pegasus was deaf, Hmmmm , a quick re-check confirmed all was right with the PC, so I switched in my old backup radio to test all the system, signals were plentiful, just NOT on the PEG. I replugged everything back in re-checked all connections and software, fired up the program and the PEG, nope still DEAF as a Dummy load. Well I opened up the case of the PEG, i am a bit curious, ahhhh I spied a few loose connectors on the board, we'll they appeared loose to me, so I re-seated all plugs and put the case back on and tried again, I was rewarded with signals aplenty. not the end of the story yet! I played a few hours with it, tuning the bands and testing the new rig, wow was it impressive .. the same thing the following nite a few trial sojurns on PSK31 and SSTV, man i like this rig, but alas the tail falls off the following morning. i woke early so I could work some DX, my favorite fun, I turned on the PC, started the program, and fired up the PEGASUS, I seem to have developed a wary eye for things going wrong .. Well I wasnt to be very happy this morning, I tuned up on 20 meters, low pwr as always, then I increased my power to about 90 - 100 watts, or so I thought, barely 10 watts output! a fast recheck of everything, ant tuner, everything, even the pwr supply, nope just a bare 10 watts was all that would come from the PEG .... a call to TEN*TEC produced what I was fearing, there is a problem with the finals most likely, the Tech and I went through all the same tests, and re - installed and tested the software, final option, after 3 days of owning a PEGASUS .... send it back for repairs, not very impressive. I querried about this problem back about Jan of this year, got both positive and negative responses, but more positive then anything else, so were am i going with this, of all the PEGASUS owners on the reflector, how many Pegasus owners have had a simular problem, with Finals going away after just a few days use! Dissapointed ! yes I am -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From N4LQ@iglou.com Sat Sep 9 02:33:03 2000 From: N4LQ@iglou.com (Steve Ellington) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 21:33:03 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] A pegasus with no tail References: <000901c019f9$b2916cc0$a309fea9@dad> Message-ID: <002301c019fd$e669fd60$97ecffcc@f1v7g7> Hey that's nothin! In 1990, I visited a ham store to try out and purchase a new Paragon. They opened the box, hooked it up for the demo and the transmitter power output was a big fat zero. No I wasn't too impressed either. So I has them hook up a new TS-940sat Kenwood which worked perfectly. Thinking the worst of TenTec, I enjoyed the 940 for a whole 2 days until the finals burst into flames and I mean FLAMES!!! The dealer was nice enough to give me a loaner 940 while mine went back to Kenwood for repair. When I got it back I noticed how quite it was compared to their loaner. Hmmm...I opened up the case and found the cooling fan for the final was jammed against a screw head. This is what had caused the problem to begin with! Yes ham gear is overall more prone to failure than other electronic equipment and we just have to expect it. TenTec will eventually make your rig good, maybe. Just hope they are able to find a definite problem and be done with it. Oh....I also had a new IC-706 that failed within 1 month. I shipped it FedX to Icom and had it back in 10 days....Not bad! Steve N4LQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From timscot@lightspeed.net Sat Sep 9 02:52:12 2000 From: timscot@lightspeed.net (timscot) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:52:12 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] A note about the Pegasus Message-ID: <003501c01a00$937def00$a309fea9@dad> >From Tim Scott (KQ6UF) timscot@lightspeed.net I didnt say I was unhappy with it, just wanted more time to play with it ... I am sure Ten Tec will make good on it. I hope the when comes soon. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From rhowes@home.com Sat Sep 9 14:44:21 2000 From: rhowes@home.com (Ron Howes) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 08:44:21 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Century 21 dial Message-ID: <000501c01a64$0fd8eba0$b2f41218@wllmsn1.tn.home.com> Greetings all: I have acquired a Century 21 in good shape, except for some damage to the plastic dial. Some of the numbers have been scratched off. If anyone has a spare dial that they would be willing to sell let me know. Also a paper copy of the original dial markings would help. Ten Tec no longer has any of these. 73 de KD4MV -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From k5rov@wcc.net Sat Sep 9 19:09:47 2000 From: k5rov@wcc.net (James Parsons) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 13:09:47 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Modifying the Centaur Message-ID: <39BA7CEB.D475F44A@wcc.net> Hi, Gang... I have a Centaur amplifier that I bought new from TT some years ago. It has been a faithful performer (except for those cheap switches), but it sure does suffer from high fan noise. It seems that 100 CFM is a lot of air to move across those tubes. I built a lot of amplifiers during my 58 years of hamming, and a number of them were 811 type, but I never blew that much air across them. I wonder if anyone has replaced the fan with a slower one, or maybe put a series resistor in the line with the existing fan? I need to do something because the constant blower noise over a period of operating hours is sure tiring. It seems my options are: 1. Replace the fan with a slower one (will the tubes get too warm?) 2. Slow the fan down.(how many CFM?) 3. Disconnect the fan and use some muffin fans on the top of the cabinet, blowing towards the tubes. 4. Replace the 811 tubes with 572B tubes and much less cooling. I have found that changing the mounting of the fan, as some have suggested, has not worked. Has anybody done anything about this? I have never figured out why TT found a need for 100 CFM for 811 tubes unless it is the way the fan had to be mounted and the fact that the tubes are in a line of three in a horizontal plane with the fan. I would like to hear from anyone who has ACTUALLY made a modification to this amplifier for this purpose. Thanks and 73 de Jim, K5ROV -- James (Jim) Parsons, K5ROV USAF, Ret. Ham for 58 yrs. k5rov@wcc.net QCWA, ARCI, Fists, ARRL, ARMS EX: W1RLA, K5FBB, K4FEO, SV0WN (CRETE), SV0WN (RHODES), DL4NC, DL4JP, KA2FC (JAPAN), KA2JP (JAPAN). JOHN 3:16 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From geraldj@ames.net Sat Sep 9 18:18:52 2000 From: geraldj@ames.net (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 12:18:52 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Modifying the Centaur References: <39BA7CEB.D475F44A@wcc.net> Message-ID: <39BA70FC.E5F@ames.net> There are quiet versions of muffin fans, typically with notched blades to keep the air moving quieter. Sometimes called feather fans. Depending on how much over ratings you are running the 811A, they might get along without air (at original ratings). There are a couple speeds of muffin fans too, the slower ones are quieter. A series capacitor will slow them more efficiently than a series resistor, though you have to watch you don't get it to approaching series resonant with the winding because then the voltage will rise (which is a handy way to run a 240 volt muffin fan on 120 volts). 73, Jerry, K0CQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ac5aa@juno.com Sat Sep 9 20:09:31 2000 From: ac5aa@juno.com (Duane A Calvin) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 14:09:31 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Modifying the Centaur Message-ID: <20000909.140931.-121609153.0.ac5aa@juno.com> Hi Jim, The fan noise is why I traded my Centaur in on a Centurion amp. The Centaur does an excellent job, otherwise. (and the Centurion looks so pretty next to the VI+!) I did not perform the surgery on mine, but I can tell what my "alternate" plan was. You will find if you remove the case that the fan makes very little noise. But hold anything in front of the fan input (use a Mouser backscratcher !) and you will hear the beginnings of the noise. According to an acoustic/thermal engineer at my place of employment who looked at it, TT simply mounted the fan too close to an obstruction (cabinet side) such that there is turbulence generated at the leading edge of the fan blades, and that is where the noise is generated. This engineer recommended starting with punching round holes in the side of the case in the fan intake area. If that didn't provide enough noise abatement, he recommended removing all the case material at the fan intake (and I would add, cover it with one of the kits available in Newark to filter the air and keep fingers and other large objects from finding their way into the fan or the case.) This was not a tested fix, but this guy has a lot of experience on cooling fan noise problems, and, as I mentioned, removing the case will almost totally eliminate the noise. I think there were two reasons they used the 100 CFM fan - they had to adequately cool the third 811A in the lineup, and it provided them some "oneupsmanship" over the competitors' amps, some of which are a bit undercooled. And, you're right, the switches could be a little gutsier... 73, Duane AC5AA On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 13:09:47 -0500 James Parsons writes: > > Hi, Gang... > > I have a Centaur amplifier that I bought new from TT some years ago. > It > has been a faithful performer (except for those cheap switches), but > it > sure does suffer from high fan noise. It seems that 100 CFM is a lot > of > air to move across those tubes. I built a lot of amplifiers during > my 58 > years of hamming, and a number of them were 811 type, but I never > blew > that much air across them. > > I wonder if anyone has replaced the fan with a slower one, or maybe > put > a series resistor in the line with the existing fan? I need to do > something because the constant blower noise over a period of > operating > hours is sure tiring. It seems my options are: > > 1. Replace the fan with a slower one (will the tubes get too warm?) > 2. Slow the fan down.(how many CFM?) > 3. Disconnect the fan and use some muffin fans on the top of the > cabinet, blowing towards the tubes. > 4. Replace the 811 tubes with 572B tubes and much less cooling. > > I have found that changing the mounting of the fan, as some have > suggested, has not worked. > > Has anybody done anything about this? I have never figured out why > TT > found a need for 100 CFM for 811 tubes unless it is the way the fan > had > to be mounted and the fact that the tubes are in a line of three in > a > horizontal plane with the fan. > > I would like to hear from anyone who has ACTUALLY made a > modification to > this amplifier for this purpose. > > Thanks and 73 de Jim, K5ROV > -- > James (Jim) Parsons, K5ROV USAF, Ret. Ham for 58 yrs. > k5rov@wcc.net QCWA, ARCI, Fists, ARRL, ARMS > EX: W1RLA, K5FBB, K4FEO, SV0WN (CRETE), SV0WN (RHODES), > DL4NC, DL4JP, KA2FC (JAPAN), KA2JP (JAPAN). > JOHN 3:16 > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > Duane A. Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac5aa@juno.com -or- ac5aa@earthlink.net Day: dacalvin@us.ibm.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From alsopb@gloryroad.net Sat Sep 9 20:12:48 2000 From: alsopb@gloryroad.net (alsopb) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 19:12:48 +0000 Subject: [TenTec] Modifying the Centaur References: <20000909.140931.-121609153.0.ac5aa@juno.com> Message-ID: <39BA8BB0.D1EF96EC@gloryroad.net> It seems that TenTec has cooling fan problems in most of their amps. The Titan 425 also had a noisy "fan". The cabinet seemed to be a sounding board. I don't understand why cooling can't be quiet. My furnace fan makes less noise and cools a heck of a lot bigger volume. It's just a matter of engineering. Sold Titan partially because of the fan noise. 73 de Brian/K3KO Duane A Calvin wrote: > > Hi Jim, > The fan noise is why I traded my Centaur in on a Centurion amp. The > Centaur does an excellent job, otherwise. (and the Centurion looks so > pretty next to the VI+!) > I did not perform the surgery on mine, but I can tell what my > "alternate" plan was. You will find if you remove the case that the fan > makes very little noise. But hold anything in front of the fan input > (use a Mouser backscratcher !) and you will hear the beginnings of the > noise. According to an acoustic/thermal engineer at my place of > employment who looked at it, TT simply mounted the fan too close to an > obstruction (cabinet side) such that there is turbulence generated at the > leading edge of the fan blades, and that is where the noise is generated. > This engineer recommended starting with punching round holes in the side > of the case in the fan intake area. If that didn't provide enough noise > abatement, he recommended removing all the case material at the fan > intake (and I would add, cover it with one of the kits available in > Newark to filter the air and keep fingers and other large objects from > finding their way into the fan or the case.) This was not a tested fix, > but this guy has a lot of experience on cooling fan noise problems, and, > as I mentioned, removing the case will almost totally eliminate the > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wiley@interaccess.com Sat Sep 9 20:49:04 2000 From: wiley@interaccess.com (Bill Gode) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 14:49:04 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Modifying the Centaur Message-ID: <200009091948.OAA16975@neuman.interaccess.com> Jim, I have a Centaur that came with 3 Svetlana 572Bs when I bought it, used. After listening to that jet engine of a fan for an hour or so, I took it out and installed a Dayton #4C548 (W.W. Grainger) 55 cfm, 1800 RPM fan to cut the noise. RadioShack.com also has a 55 cfm fan (#90-2521) that's a direct replacement. With the 572Bs and slower fan, I run 600 watts out all day with no heat build up on the cabinet top. In fact, the only time the cabinet gets even warm is after I shut it off and the tubes cool down without benefit of a blower. With a 100 watt exciter, maximum output is limited by the input matching network pad and the lower plate voltage for 811As, so the 572Bs are never stressed. In its modified state, the Centaur is a great little amplifier and I use it all the time. 73, Bill, W9NHQ ---------- > I wonder if anyone has replaced the fan with a slower one, > I would like to hear from anyone who has ACTUALLY made a modification to > this amplifier for this purpose. > > Thanks and 73 de Jim, K5ROV -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wbcapps@mindspring.com Sat Sep 9 23:06:46 2000 From: wbcapps@mindspring.com (Bill Capps) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 15:06:46 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] centaur/yaesu Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20000909150646.00721928@pop.mindspring.com> Has anyone tried a centaur/ft-1000mp combination? is it hard to make the qsk hookups? 73 bill capps af4od -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Toneyfam@proaxis.com Sat Sep 9 21:12:33 2000 From: Toneyfam@proaxis.com (Mike Toney) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:12:33 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Thanks to all... Message-ID: <00bc01c01a9a$4b2251c0$79c46ac6@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C01A5F.9D7CF000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all for your almost immediate response to my questions about = the Paragon. I've gained a lot of info I didn't have and now must = decide. I hope to keep in contact with the group. Thanks a bunch for a = great service.... = 73, = Mike/W7CNA =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C01A5F.9D7CF000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01C01A5F.9D7CF000-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From k5rov@wcc.net Sat Sep 9 21:55:38 2000 From: k5rov@wcc.net (James Parsons) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 15:55:38 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Mods to Centaur amplifier... Message-ID: <39BAA3CA.A09FC7BE@wcc.net> Thanks to all who responded to my query about the very noisy fan. I got some very good ideas and Monday I will make some changes per the recommendations I received. You are a great bunch, and your help is greatly appreciated. Best 73 and God bless... Jim, K5ROV -- James (Jim) Parsons, K5ROV USAF, Ret. Ham for 58 yrs. k5rov@wcc.net QCWA, ARCI, Fists, ARRL, ARMS EX: W1RLA, K5FBB, K4FEO, SV0WN (CRETE), SV0WN (RHODES), DL4NC, DL4JP, KA2FC (JAPAN), KA2JP (JAPAN). JOHN 3:16 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kh7m@hsa-kauai.net Sat Sep 9 22:39:59 2000 From: kh7m@hsa-kauai.net (Jim Reid) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 11:39:59 -1000 Subject: [TenTec] Squeaky Tuning Message-ID: <00c201c01aa6$86891d00$aa7ad818@gw400> Hi, Have developed a squeak when tuning my Omni VI+. Fiddle, and with some effort, can hang onto the "rear chrome skirt" while, trying to turn the main knob to adjust tension and eliminate the squeak. Not much success! Still squeaks, particularly when twirling using the finger hole in the knob. Also, the skirt is no longer concentric with the main knob. The manual says this can be corrected, but beats me how, hi. With my fingers, I can just barely hang onto the thing while attempting to turn the main knob. Anyone else have a good way of doing this adjustment, and what to do about the squeak? 73, Jim, KH7M -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From royanjoy@ncn.net Sat Sep 9 22:59:50 2000 From: royanjoy@ncn.net (Roy Koeppe) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:59:50 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Sqeaky Tuning Message-ID: <008501c01aa9$47902c80$4c2448ce@h648s> Jim inquired, "Have developed a squeak when tuning my Omni VI+. Fiddle, and with some effort, can hang onto the "rear chrome skirt" while, trying to turn the main knob to adjust tension and eliminate the squeak. Not much success! Still squeaks, particularly when twirling using the finger hole in the knob. Also, the skirt is no longer concentric with the main knob. The manual says this can be corrected, but beats me how, hi. With my fingers, I can just barely hang onto the thing while attempting to turn the main knob. Anyone else have a good way of doing this adjustment, and what to do about the squeak?" 73, Jim, KH7M Jim, On the Unofficial Ten-Tec Omni-6 web site was a mod for ending that squeak once and for all, by disabling the "wipers" and replacing 'em with a glued on layer of cotton from an aspirin bottle. Tension is then adjusted merely by moving the knob closer or farther from the panel. It is velvety smooth and absolutely silent. 73, Roy K6XK Iowa -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Sat Sep 9 23:16:41 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:16:41 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] W.T.B. CENTAUR Message-ID: <20000909.181647.-47077.1.gctotten@juno.com> Hi gang, I sold my HERC. II on the reflector last winter. I replaced it with a non TEN-TEC ( non QSK ) amplifier. Well, I sure miss QSK CW so I'm looking for a clean used CENTAUR with or without tubes. ( I have a few 811-As and 572-Bs.) I have a clean / mint PARAGON (1) I would trade or cash. I would prefer a "local" deal ( 200 miles + or - ) because I would like to see the amplifier before I part with the cash or trade. A previous deal fell through because of the condition of the amplifier. 73 Have a nice weekend Jerry K8JRO K gctotten@juno.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Sat Sep 9 23:22:25 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:22:25 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Sqeaky Tuning Message-ID: <20000909.182230.-47077.2.gctotten@juno.com> I for one could never hold that chrome skirt no matter how hard I tried. DE K8JRO > On the Unofficial Ten-Tec Omni-6 web site was a mod for ending that> squeak once and for all, by disabling the "wipers" and replacing 'em > with a glued on layer of cotton from an aspirin bottle. Tension is > then > adjusted merely by moving the knob closer or farther from the panel. > It > is velvety smooth and absolutely silent. > > 73, Roy K6XK Iowa > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From aaron.hsu@unistudios.com Sat Sep 9 23:54:43 2000 From: aaron.hsu@unistudios.com (Hsu, Aaron) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:54:43 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Alpha Amps Message-ID: Not specifically list related, but of interest to all... On Sept. 7, 2000, W4ETO and W0UN announced that the current run of Alpha 87A and Alpha 99 amps will be the last. After this, Alpha Power will cease engineering and manufacturing operations. Warranty and post-warranty work will still be available, but no new amps will be produced. For additional info, visit the Alpha web-site at: http://www.alpha-power-inc.com/ I have no relation to Alpha...always liked to own one, but never had enough duckets. Just some FYI for those who want a last chance at a brand new one. 73, - Aaron Hsu, KD6DAE (athsu)@unistudios.com (kd6dae)@arrl.net NoQRO Int'l #1,000,006 p.s. Please send any reply direct...no need to tie up reflector bandwidth. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kh7m@hsa-kauai.net Sun Sep 10 00:16:06 2000 From: kh7m@hsa-kauai.net (Jim Reid) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:16:06 -1000 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Omni VI+ Squeaky Tuning References: <20000909.181647.-47077.0.gctotten@juno.com> Message-ID: <00f701c01ab3$f31ff580$aa7ad818@gw400> Aloha, And thanks to Jerry, Dave and Roy, each of whom described exactly what to do! By Jerry: > Take the rubber grip off and use an allen wrench to > remove the knob. I run mine with out the felt pads > No squeak at all. By Roy, > ....disabling the "wipers" and replacing 'em > with a glued on layer of cotton from an aspirin bottle. > Tension is then adjusted merely by moving the knob closer > or farther from the panel. It is velvety smooth and absolutely silent. And, by Dave: > Pull the boot off the knob. The boot is the black ring around > the knob. You will find a allen screw and it can be loosened > by one of the allen wrenches you reveived with the VI+ and > you can remove the knob. You will find that you now can > adjust the tension as needed and when done, replace the boot. After getting to the inside of the knob, I adopted Jerry's approach: just removed the two tiny felt pads. Now a very light tension, in fact none imposed external to the tuning mechanism inside the case, and no squeak! I had the bottle top cotton right here, but decided to try without it for now. Seems great! Thanks again for the very rapid response, and "fix"! 73, Jim, KH7M -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ac5aa@juno.com Sun Sep 10 00:32:01 2000 From: ac5aa@juno.com (Duane A Calvin) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:32:01 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] centaur/yaesu Message-ID: <20000909.183208.-121596629.3.ac5aa@juno.com> Bill, I used my Centaur with my IC-765, and it worked great. I think you may even be in better shape with the 1000MP because (if I remember correctly), Yaesu copied Ten-Tec's keying loop (TX-EN, TX-out) design. Even if not, TT has designed it so that the rig keying can be controlled thru the amp, thereby providing inexpensive but very effective QSK without hot-keying anything. 73, Duane AC5AA On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 15:06:46 -0700 Bill Capps writes: > > Has anyone tried a centaur/ft-1000mp combination? is it hard to make > the > qsk hookups? > > 73 > > bill capps > af4od > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > Duane A. Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac5aa@juno.com -or- ac5aa@earthlink.net Day: dacalvin@us.ibm.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ac5aa@juno.com Sun Sep 10 00:22:11 2000 From: ac5aa@juno.com (Duane A Calvin) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:22:11 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Modifying the Centaur Message-ID: <20000909.183208.-121596629.0.ac5aa@juno.com> Except for the Centurion, which is very quiet, also is "instant on" with 3-500ZG's- why buy another amp? :-) 73, Duane AC5AA On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 19:12:48 +0000 alsopb writes: > It seems that TenTec has cooling fan problems in most of their amps. > > The Titan 425 also had a noisy "fan". The cabinet seemed to be a > sounding > board. > > I don't understand why cooling can't be quiet. My furnace fan makes > less noise > and cools a heck of a lot bigger volume. It's just a matter of > engineering. > > Sold Titan partially because of the fan noise. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > > Duane A Calvin wrote: > > > > Hi Jim, > > The fan noise is why I traded my Centaur in on a Centurion > amp. The > > Centaur does an excellent job, otherwise. (and the Centurion > looks so > > pretty next to the VI+!) > > I did not perform the surgery on mine, but I can tell what > my > > "alternate" plan was. You will find if you remove the case that > the fan > > makes very little noise. But hold anything in front of the fan > input > > (use a Mouser backscratcher !) and you will hear the beginnings of > the > > noise. According to an acoustic/thermal engineer at my place of > > employment who looked at it, TT simply mounted the fan too close > to an > > obstruction (cabinet side) such that there is turbulence generated > at the > > leading edge of the fan blades, and that is where the noise is > generated. > > This engineer recommended starting with punching round holes in > the side > > of the case in the fan intake area. If that didn't provide enough > noise > > abatement, he recommended removing all the case material at the > fan > > intake (and I would add, cover it with one of the kits available > in > > Newark to filter the air and keep fingers and other large objects > from > > finding their way into the fan or the case.) This was not a > tested fix, > > but this guy has a lot of experience on cooling fan noise > problems, and, > > as I mentioned, removing the case will almost totally eliminate > the > > Duane A. Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac5aa@juno.com -or- ac5aa@earthlink.net Day: dacalvin@us.ibm.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ac5aa@juno.com Sun Sep 10 00:46:33 2000 From: ac5aa@juno.com (Duane A Calvin) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:46:33 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] FS: TT-301 Remote Tuning Encoder for Omni's Message-ID: <20000909.184633.-121596629.4.ac5aa@juno.com> Time to clean up some projects that I'm just not going to have time to get to. I have for sale an unassembled 301 remote tuning encoder kit. Brand new, purchased in March 1999, and never assembled. $90 including shipping to US addresses. 73, Duane Duane A. Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac5aa@juno.com -or- ac5aa@earthlink.net Day: dacalvin@us.ibm.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From cherry@neta.com Sun Sep 10 00:57:44 2000 From: cherry@neta.com (Jim FitzSimons) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:57:44 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Modifying the Centaur References: <39BA7CEB.D475F44A@wcc.net> Message-ID: <002e01c01ab9$bfd5b6a0$2207fecf@pavilion> James, I had to replace two of the switches when they broke. I have have 572B's. A little $10 fan from the drugstore works good. Best regards, Jim FitzSimons W7ANF ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Parsons" To: Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 11:09 AM Subject: [TenTec] Modifying the Centaur > > Hi, Gang... > > I have a Centaur amplifier that I bought new from TT some years ago. It > has been a faithful performer (except for those cheap switches), but it > sure does suffer from high fan noise. It seems that 100 CFM is a lot of > air to move across those tubes. I built a lot of amplifiers during my 58 > years of hamming, and a number of them were 811 type, but I never blew > that much air across them. > > I wonder if anyone has replaced the fan with a slower one, or maybe put > a series resistor in the line with the existing fan? I need to do > something because the constant blower noise over a period of operating > hours is sure tiring. It seems my options are: > > 1. Replace the fan with a slower one (will the tubes get too warm?) > 2. Slow the fan down.(how many CFM?) > 3. Disconnect the fan and use some muffin fans on the top of the > cabinet, blowing towards the tubes. > 4. Replace the 811 tubes with 572B tubes and much less cooling. > > I have found that changing the mounting of the fan, as some have > suggested, has not worked. > > Has anybody done anything about this? I have never figured out why TT > found a need for 100 CFM for 811 tubes unless it is the way the fan had > to be mounted and the fact that the tubes are in a line of three in a > horizontal plane with the fan. > > I would like to hear from anyone who has ACTUALLY made a modification to > this amplifier for this purpose. > > Thanks and 73 de Jim, K5ROV > -- > James (Jim) Parsons, K5ROV USAF, Ret. Ham for 58 yrs. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ac5aa@juno.com Sun Sep 10 02:02:26 2000 From: ac5aa@juno.com (Duane A Calvin) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:02:26 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Fw: FS: TT-301 Remote Tuning Encoder for Omni's Message-ID: <20000909.200746.-119654001.2.ac5aa@juno.com> The 301 Remote Tuning encoder is spoken for. Thanks. 73, Duane Duane A. Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac5aa@juno.com -or- ac5aa@earthlink.net Day: dacalvin@us.ibm.com --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Duane A Calvin To: tentec@contesting.com Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 18:46:33 -0500 Subject: FS: TT-301 Remote Tuning Encoder for Omni's Message-ID: <20000909.184633.-121596629.4.ac5aa@juno.com> Time to clean up some projects that I'm just not going to have time to get to. I have for sale an unassembled 301 remote tuning encoder kit. Brand new, purchased in March 1999, and never assembled. $90 including shipping to US addresses. 73, Duane Duane A. Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac5aa@juno.com -or- ac5aa@earthlink.net Day: dacalvin@us.ibm.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From JDuffy@aol.com Sun Sep 10 02:26:41 2000 From: JDuffy@aol.com (JDuffy@aol.com) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:26:41 EDT Subject: [TenTec] New TT Web Site Looks Great Message-ID: <9b.a230507.26ec3d51@aol.com> Boy, TT sure did a nice job on their new web site. Really looks good. If you haven't visited the TT web site recently, now is the time! Regards, Duffy - WB8NUT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From cool@nortexinfo.net Sun Sep 10 05:52:59 2000 From: cool@nortexinfo.net (Cooley) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 21:52:59 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] FS 229B antenna tuner Message-ID: <39BB13AB.6654A33D@nortexinfo.net> N5NBK, Dan , has a nice 229B for sale, $200.00 plus shipping, call 940-668-2042 or e-mail n5nbk@nortexinfo.net Thanks! -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kia@netins.net Sun Sep 10 04:00:31 2000 From: kia@netins.net (Ken & Rose Kreis) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:00:31 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Modifying the Centaur References: <39BA7CEB.D475F44A@wcc.net> Message-ID: <000401c01ad3$4a1cd8c0$9269b1cf@kia> I put a 55 cfm fan in the Centaur. Plenty of air and not much noise. The amp does not get very warm even with the 55 cfm when running around 500w CW. 73, Ken, KA0W -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Sun Sep 10 17:02:05 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 12:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] external speaker Message-ID: On the Omni 6+, is that external speaker plug a standard 1/4" mono? I looked in the manual and it just says 1/4" plug. On the Scout u need a mono to stereo. Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Sun Sep 10 17:34:14 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:34:14 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] external speaker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > > On the Omni 6+, is that external speaker plug a standard 1/4" mono? I > looked in the manual and it just says 1/4" plug. On the Scout u need a > mono to stereo. > > Bob, Mine are both mono's. According to the Model 563 Wiring Diagram, "Headphones" jack is indicated as being stereo (which it is), while "Ext. Spkr" is mono. 73, dale, kg5u > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kh7m@hsa-kauai.net Sun Sep 10 18:10:32 2000 From: kh7m@hsa-kauai.net (Jim Reid) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 07:10:32 -1000 Subject: [TenTec] external speaker References: Message-ID: <004901c01b4a$0a407460$aa7ad818@gw400> > > On the Omni 6+, is that external speaker plug a > standard 1/4" mono? Yes, as is the matching plug on the Omni PS with external speaker built-in. 73, Jim, KH7M -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From W8QA@aol.com Mon Sep 11 12:56:47 2000 From: W8QA@aol.com (W8QA@aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:56:47 EDT Subject: [TenTec] O.T. needs help Message-ID: Hello to all: Please pardon the slightly off-topic nature of this post. I met an old timer who is trying to restore a National NC-183D. He's very discouraged because he can't find any technical information on the set, and the power transformer is shorted. I tried to do a Web search for him, but the name "National" brings up about 50,000 hits. Other combinations of words don't seem to be fruitful, either. Can anyone on the List help this man? There MUST be a list or Website for National radios. Also, how does one go about finding Photofacts in the year 2000? I used to go to the public library, but the Photofacts have long since been replaced by video games. :-( My hat is off to anyone who can help this O.T. He needs something to get his mind off his wife's cancer treatments. Please E-mail him at holladayfd@multipro.com His name is Frank, and his call is K4VMO. Thank you one and all for indulging my request. Best DX and Very 73, John, W8QA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Mon Sep 11 13:07:47 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] got the radials up! c my Omni 6+ Message-ID: Well, guys, my brother did a beautiful job putting up my 4 radials. i planned it all out, cutting, soldering stacons on the ends, getting standoff and nylon rope, and the tools needed. The swr is now nearly perfect at full power and it looks really nice. You can see my new/used Omni 6 Plus on my website at http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ac5aa@juno.com Mon Sep 11 14:31:27 2000 From: ac5aa@juno.com (Duane A Calvin) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:31:27 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] O.T. needs help Message-ID: <20000911.083128.-764663.1.ac5aa@juno.com> Here is an excellent National web site - and he may find some help through Neal - W0VLZ. http://www.io.com/~nielw/index.htm In addition, has he checked the BAMA site for manuals? It has several models of the NC-183, including the "D" triple conversion model: http://bama.sbc.edu/ On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:56:47 EDT W8QA@aol.com writes: > > Hello to all: > > Please pardon the slightly off-topic nature of this post. I met an > old timer > who is trying to restore a National NC-183D. He's very discouraged > because > he can't find any technical information on the set, and the power > transformer > is shorted. I tried to do a Web search for him, but the name > "National" > brings up about 50,000 hits. Other combinations of words don't seem > to be > fruitful, either. > > Can anyone on the List help this man? There MUST be a list or > Website for > National radios. Also, how does one go about finding Photofacts in > the year > 2000? I used to go to the public library, but the Photofacts have > long since > been replaced by video games. :-( > > My hat is off to anyone who can help this O.T. He needs something > to get his > mind off his wife's cancer treatments. Please E-mail him at > holladayfd@multipro.com His name is Frank, and his call is K4VMO. > > Thank you one and all for indulging my request. Best DX and > > Very 73, > > John, W8QA > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > Duane A. Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac5aa@juno.com -or- ac5aa@earthlink.net Day: dacalvin@us.ibm.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Mon Sep 11 14:19:40 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:19:40 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] got the radials up! c my Omni 6+ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Very nice, Bob. I have a webpage with a couple of links to other op's Ten-Tec stations. http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u/tentec.html May I add your link to the list? 73, dale, kg5u > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-tentec@contesting.com [mailto:owner-tentec@contesting.com]On > Behalf Of Bob Mauro - PeopleNet > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 7:08 AM > To: tentec@contesting.com > Subject: [TenTec] got the radials up! c my Omni 6+ > > > > Well, guys, my brother did a beautiful job putting up my 4 radials. i > planned it all out, cutting, soldering stacons on the ends, getting > standoff and nylon rope, and the tools needed. The swr is now nearly > perfect at full power and it looks really nice. > > You can see my new/used Omni 6 Plus on my website at > http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html > > Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G > -------------------------------------------------------------- > My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro > My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html > My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html > -------------------------------------------------------------- > If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From adb@moonworks.com Mon Sep 11 16:09:29 2000 From: adb@moonworks.com (A. Bryant) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:09:29 -0600 Subject: [TenTec] Triton IV Audio Question Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000911085621.00c804d0@mail.moonworks.com> The level of rust on my electronics knowledge is probably an embarrassment to the amateur radio fraternity, so forgive me if this seems like a dumb question. But I need some help figuring out an audio circuit issue. First, the background. I've been running PSK31 on my Triton IV. It was easiest to just use the sidetone jack for getting audio out of the rig, but it's tied into the front panel volume control, so I get to listen to the shrill tones of PSK while operating, which gets annoying sometimes. I could just tap into the headphone jack, but sometimes I *do* want to listen. What I want is a straight audio out that's volume control independent, so I referred to the circuit diagrams and info in the manual, and tapped into the AUDIO and GROUND pins on the IF-AGC board. Easy enough, and it works -- mostly. When you crank the front-panel volume control past the second mark -- while my new audio out is connected to the PC -- the speaker volume suddenly drops precipitously, and gets very crackly sounding. (I believe the input to the PC remains unchanged, but I don't have it set-up at the moment to confirm that.) It seems logical that I need to somehow isolate the new audio output on the rig from the PC's microphone input, but I haven't a clue where to begin, or what type of circuit would be needed to do that. For that matter, I'm not even sure what's going on to cause this in the first place. Any specific advice on next steps from someone wiser than I would be appreciated. Thanks, Alan WD0EVX --- Alan Bryant Denver, Colorado -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From geraldj@ames.net Mon Sep 11 15:17:47 2000 From: geraldj@ames.net (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:17:47 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Triton IV Audio Question References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000911085621.00c804d0@mail.moonworks.com> Message-ID: <39BCE98B.600E@ames.net> Try a series resistor, say 10K or 100K. 73, Jerry, K0CQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From rohre@arlut.utexas.edu Mon Sep 11 18:01:50 2000 From: rohre@arlut.utexas.edu (Stuart Rohre) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:01:50 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Pegasus Message-ID: <003e01c01c11$fa9b7e10$5ac07481@rohredt2000> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C01BE8.11B32690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Every brand of radio is subject to the quality control of the = semiconductor vendors. You cannot evaluate if a transistor is going to = fail of infant mortality without cuttng it open, and even then it might = not show anything to a microscope. Unfortunately, in this day of = robotic manufacturing, the adjustments of the machines do get off and = not caught by the few workers kept around to service the robots, and you = get the occasional quality control failure of the Semi device, not at = all the fault of Ten Tec. But, you will find their service the best of = the manufacturers. Also, before connecting loose cables, be sure you know exactly where = every one should go. Some computerized devices have loose connectors = for factory troubleshooting test jig hook ups, etc. A call to Ten Tec = gets that hand holding that will lead you through the porblems. Good Luck, I am sure they will make it right. 73 Stuart K5KVH ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C01BE8.11B32690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Every brand of radio is subject to the = quality=20 control of the semiconductor vendors.  You cannot evaluate if a = transistor=20 is going to fail of infant mortality without cuttng it open, and even = then it=20 might not show anything to a microscope.  Unfortunately, in this = day of=20 robotic manufacturing, the adjustments of the machines do get off and = not caught=20 by the few workers kept around to service the robots, and you get the = occasional=20 quality control failure of the Semi device, not at all the fault of Ten=20 Tec.  But, you will find their service the best of the=20 manufacturers.
 
Also, before connecting loose cables, = be sure you=20 know exactly where every one should go.  Some computerized devices = have=20 loose connectors for factory troubleshooting test jig hook ups, = etc.  =20 A call to Ten Tec gets that hand holding that will lead you through the=20 porblems.
 
Good Luck, I am sure they will make it=20 right.
73
Stuart K5KVH
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C01BE8.11B32690-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jcox" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C01C02.72742320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a very nice condition Ten Tec 1208 6 meter transverter for sale. Picked up a extra tranceiver with 6 meter on it, so no longer needed. Price is $95 shipped with the manual of course, works perfect. Jim K4JAF k4jaf@arrl.net =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C01C02.72742320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a very=20 nice condition Ten Tec 1208 6 meter transverter for sale.
Picked up a = extra=20 tranceiver with 6 meter on it, so no longer needed.
Price is $95 = shipped with=20 the manual of course, works perfect.
Jim K4JAF 
k4jaf@arrl.net =20
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C01C02.72742320-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From alwilliams@olywa.net Sun Sep 10 21:08:46 2000 From: alwilliams@olywa.net (Al Williams) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:08:46 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ phones jack Message-ID: <000501c01b62$fdca1c40$21d8add8@y8n8x6> The only reference to the "phones" front panel jack that I have been able to find in the TenTec Omni VI Plus Model 564 operators manual is on page 6-1. This page is Trouble Shooting Procedures and for "receiver dead" lists "check headphone and EXTERNAL SPKR jack. (3-6.01). That paragraph (3-6.01) is for the rear panel external speaker jack and contains no information on the front panel "PHONES" jack. I will readily admit that I may have missed something in the pages of schematics. If anyone can direct me to some additional information I will appreciate it. I have reviewed thousands and thousands of schematics in my 40yrs work experience as an electronic technician and engineer as well as my 60 yrs as a ham. Ten Tec's method of showing interconnects between boards and other components has me pretty well baffled. While TenTec equipment and service may be exceptional, in my opinion, those who heap superlatives on the TenTec manual have never been exposed to a really good manual and/or have a too low standard. By-the-way, is the model 563 an Omni6+? k7puc -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From alwilliams@olywa.net Sun Sep 10 21:11:59 2000 From: alwilliams@olywa.net (Al Williams) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:11:59 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ Phones jack Message-ID: <000501c01b63$61374be0$21d8add8@y8n8x6> What reason(s) can there be for the phones jack to be stereo? Am I overooking some capability in my rx? k7puc -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Mon Sep 11 04:46:14 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:46:14 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Model 962 References: <20000908.135620.-998895.3.gctotten@juno.com> Message-ID: <39BC5586.637E@infoave.net> Jerry: I don't agree. The front panel has a hole punched in it for the speaker. This hole forms a current loop, in which current is induced from the power transformer stray field. In essence this is a shorted turn, electrically, in the field of the power transformer. It creates a quite high magnet flux outside of the cabinet. 73 Bob K4TAX Gerald C Totten wrote: > > I have had the power supply on top of the radio with no problems. If the > bridge rectifier is OK ( all the diodes are the same ) there should be > very little magnetic field outside the power supply case. > > Jerry K8JRO -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Tue Sep 12 02:57:08 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:57:08 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ Phones jack In-Reply-To: <000501c01b63$61374be0$21d8add8@y8n8x6> Message-ID: > > What reason(s) can there be for the phones jack to be stereo? Am I > overooking some capability in my rx? > > Because many/most headphones these days are stereo? 73, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n4elm@home.com Tue Sep 12 04:01:29 2000 From: n4elm@home.com (Dave Redfearn) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:01:29 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] FS: Ten Tec 2.4 Khz and 500 Hz Crystal filters Message-ID: <39BD9C89.197705F7@home.com> For Sale: Ten Tec 9 Mhz Crystal filters #217 500 Hz 8 pole CW filter - $60.00 + shipping #220 2.4 Khz 8 pole SSB filter - $60.00 + shipping Both used, in good , working condition. 73 - Dave =================================================== Dave Redfearn, ARS N4ELM, McKinney, TX Email: n4elm@NOJUNKhome.com (to reply, remove NOJUNK) QRL? de N4ELM/qrp -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n4elm@home.com Tue Sep 12 04:04:23 2000 From: n4elm@home.com (Dave Redfearn) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:04:23 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] FS: Calibrator for Argosy I (Analog) Message-ID: <39BD9D37.356A951E@home.com> For Sale: #80809 Calibrator board for Ten-Tec Analog Argosy. Used, in good, working condition. $30.00 + shipping. 73 - Dave =================================================== Dave Redfearn, ARS N4ELM, McKinney, TX Email: n4elm@NOJUNKhome.com (to reply, remove NOJUNK) QRL? de N4ELM/qrp -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ac5aa@juno.com Tue Sep 12 04:22:57 2000 From: ac5aa@juno.com (Duane A Calvin) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:22:57 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ Phones jack Message-ID: <20000911.222257.-961057.1.ac5aa@juno.com> It is a stereo jack on the Omni VI+, and the reason is to drive all those stereo headphones that are so easy to find. A mono plug would only drive one side of the phones. 73, Duane On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:11:59 -0700 "Al Williams" writes: > > What reason(s) can there be for the phones jack to be stereo? Am I > overooking some capability in my rx? > > k7puc > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > Duane A. Calvin, AC5AA Austin, Texas ac5aa@juno.com -or- ac5aa@earthlink.net Day: dacalvin@us.ibm.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wb4wen@yahoo.com Tue Sep 12 04:33:47 2000 From: wb4wen@yahoo.com (Bill Buchanan) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TenTec] 1210? Message-ID: <20000912033347.7821.qmail@web3004.mail.yahoo.com> OMs Any 1210 transverters built or kits out there for sale reasonable? For some experimentation I would like to find a few...... Bill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Mon Sep 11 04:42:57 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:42:57 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Model 962 References: <001f01c019bb$d922f720$9cbf22d0@computer> Message-ID: <39BC54C1.7CC8@infoave.net> John; In short, YEP. Same layout concerns. 73 Bob K4TAX John Cooper wrote: > > Hello, > > Is it also recommended to place the Model 962 power supply on the > right side of the Omni 6? I don't operate much on SSB but no one > has told me of any noise problems. > > 73, John K0OI -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Mon Sep 11 05:33:39 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:33:39 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] external speaker References: Message-ID: <39BC60A3.44E1@infoave.net> As many headphones today are stereo types using 1/4" plugs, (tip, ring, sleeve) by putting in a stereo jack and wiring it mono then both sides of the phones are useable. If a mono jack were used then only one side of the phones would operate. 73 Bob K4TAX Dale L Martin wrote: > > > > > > > On the Omni 6+, is that external speaker plug a standard 1/4" mono? I > > looked in the manual and it just says 1/4" plug. On the Scout u need a > > mono to stereo. > > > > > > Bob, > > Mine are both mono's. > > According to the Model 563 Wiring Diagram, "Headphones" jack is indicated as > being stereo (which it is), while "Ext. Spkr" is mono. > > 73, > dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w6wqc@juno.com Tue Sep 12 06:40:55 2000 From: w6wqc@juno.com (w6wqc@juno.com) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:40:55 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ phones jack Message-ID: <20000911.224055.-341359.0.w6wqc@juno.com> Al Williams wrote about his disappointment with the Omni 6+ manual. These are my sentiments exactly. The Omni 6+ manual is poor compared to several others I've seen (Yeasu, Icom) and not up to the quality standard set by the transciever itself. My manual does not have the parts layout drawing for the 9 mhz filter board. The low level driver board schematic is so much reduced it is not possible to identify many of the parts numbers or values. To this day I still haven't found the mic connector on any of the schematics, etc., etc., And I also have a devil of a time trying to figure out the board interconnects. Even a simple block diagram would help - but there is none. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Tue Sep 12 13:19:49 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:19:49 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ phones jack In-Reply-To: <20000911.224055.-341359.0.w6wqc@juno.com> Message-ID: > > Al Williams wrote about his disappointment with the Omni 6+ manual. These > are my sentiments exactly. The Omni 6+ manual is poor compared to several > others I've seen (Yeasu, Icom) and not up to the quality standard set by > the transciever itself. > Well, I don't need a "Chilton-type" manual to operate the radio. Certainly, if I have a problem that causes me to want to dig into it, I know my capabilities and it would not take much for me to be on the phone to Service Department and/or UPS. >To this day I > still haven't found the mic connector on any of the schematics, etc., The mic connector (and other external interfaces) and board interconnects are all on a page in my manual called "Model 563 Wiring Diagram." > etc., And I also have a devil of a time trying to figure out the board > interconnects. Even a simple block diagram would help - but there is > none. > Have you called Ten-Tec to ask about it and what it's availability may be? 73, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From adb@moonworks.com Tue Sep 12 16:45:43 2000 From: adb@moonworks.com (A. Bryant) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:45:43 -0600 Subject: [TenTec] Triton IV Audio Question In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000911085621.00c804d0@mail.moonworks.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000912094144.00c90db0@mail.moonworks.com> If anyone's curious, my solution to my Triton "line out" audio problem in the end was to use a simple 1:1 audio isolation transformer, a few bucks from the local Radio Shack. After looking around online, I saw it referenced in several schematics for various PC/rig interfaces, and while nobody mentioned a problem like the one I was having, I can see its value. Some used it on the other side too (PC audio to rig mic input), and perhaps I should use one there but I'm not gonna fix it if it ain't broke. :-) A. --- Alan Bryant Denver, Colorado -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w6wqc@juno.com Tue Sep 12 17:34:53 2000 From: w6wqc@juno.com (w6wqc@juno.com) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:34:53 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ phones jack Message-ID: <20000912.093454.-388131.0.w6wqc@juno.com> Read your response re the Omni manual. I think you missed the point. The point is that the manual is deficient and not on a par with the quality of the rig nor is it on a par with the quality of practically every other manual I have examined from other manufacturers. The fact that most TenTec owners are technically savvy to the point where digging into their rigs presents no particular or serious problem does not mitigate the situation. Granted one can call TenTec service but why should we have to. I, for one, do want somebody to hold my hand and lead me through a repair procedure. All of the pertinent information required to diagnose/fix the rig should be contained in the manual. That is the whole purpose of the manual. AL, w6wqc ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From radions@neteze.com Tue Sep 12 17:44:25 2000 From: radions@neteze.com (W B Reese) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:44:25 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] WTB Model 214 Electret Microphone (or similar) Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000912094214.006886c0@pop3.neteze.com> Dear Everyone, I would like to purchase a model 214 Electret Microphone (or similar). I believe this is the matching mike for the Delta I 580, it's an Electro Voice 727 with a Ten Tec "cherry" on it and terminates in a 1/4 inch stereo phono plug. Please e-mail me if you have one to sell: WB6TMY@arrl.net If your mike ends in a 4 pin connector, it's no problem, I have plenty of 1/4 inch plugs around here & a hot soldering iron. Very 73, Warren "TR" Reese W B Reese Primary: WB6TMY@arrl.net Secondary: Radions@neteze.com http://www.neteze.com/radions -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kitdart@cfw.com Tue Sep 12 18:17:45 2000 From: kitdart@cfw.com (K Indart) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:17:45 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ Phones jack In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have no problems with stereo vs mono headphones on my OMNI VI+ I mostly use the trusty WWII HB-7 by Murdock, Chelsey MASS or R.S.stereo phones. The ole HB-7 cuts out a lot of the highs, so it is not as tiring after long use. These phones are just as good today, after 60 years.......MADE IN USA Ken, WA4RPH -----Original Message----- From: owner-tentec@contesting.com [mailto:owner-tentec@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Dale L Martin Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:57 PM To: Ten-Tec Reflector Subject: RE: [TenTec] Omni 6+ Phones jack > > What reason(s) can there be for the phones jack to be stereo? Am I > overooking some capability in my rx? > > Because many/most headphones these days are stereo? 73, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w4ht_qrp@yahoo.com Wed Sep 13 00:20:38 2000 From: w4ht_qrp@yahoo.com (Robert Durrell) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TenTec] WTB: Model 645 keyer Message-ID: <20000912232038.16173.qmail@web4803.mail.yahoo.com> Hi gang, Am looking for a mint/excellent model 645 dual paddle keyer to go with my Corsair I. If anyone has one they would like to part with please e-mail me with price and details. 73, Bob Durrell W4HT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Tom Branch" Greetings, I just replaced the chocolate-colored faceplate on my 229A with the charcoal-colored one from a 229B kit I just received--it's a much better match for my Omni 6! When I took off the knobs, I forgot to see how the capacitor was meshed. With a setting of zero, are the plate fully meshed or fully open? TU es 73 de Tom, K4NR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Wed Sep 13 05:41:01 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:41:01 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ phones jack In-Reply-To: <20000912.093454.-388131.0.w6wqc@juno.com> Message-ID: > > Read your response re the Omni manual. I think you missed the point. No. I didn't miss the point. I ignored it because I only wanted to comment on the Wiring Diagram and suggest that maybe a call to Ten-Tec might bear some fruit. But, since you bring it up again.... Like I said, I don't want or need a "Chilton's-type" manual. I've been an electronics technician for most of my life. If there's anything I hate it's troubleshooting and repair. I love to build--heck, my old project engineers tell me stuff I built years ago is still being flown on the shuttle--way cool!--but, I hate the bejesus out of trying to find a problem. When I have a problem with my radios, car, television, etc., I take it to or send it to the pros who like to troubleshoot and repair. While they do that, I'll be out at the pool, on my bicycle, backpacking in the Chisos, working at the Zoo, or operating the other Omni VI. Life's too short for troubleshooting. hey! I just made that up! :-) The > point is that the manual is deficient and not on a par with the quality > of the rig nor is it on a par with the quality of practically every other > manual I have examined from other manufacturers. > I didn't buy a manual that had a radio come with it. I bought a radio with a manual. That the manual may or may not meet everyone's spec's for 'manual' is inconsequential. If it meets my criteria and needs, great. As to comparing them to other manuals, how about the king (my opinion) of radios for many, many years: Kenwood TS-930S. I had one. I had the manual (thinner than the Omni VI manual). I had the service manual. When a board developed a problem, the manuals were both useless. So was any telephone support from Kenwood. $400, a round-trip to/from CA and a month later it was back on the desk being a great radio. I also had a TS-130S. Again, the manual was fine...for me. If anything had happened that might cause me to have to delve into the innards of that radio, the manual again would have been useless. As good as both those radios were/are, their manuals were as, if not more so, deficient as Ten-Tec's. Heck, there was little in the way of indepth discussion on board contents and functions, much less any troubleshooting hints. I have learned more about radios by reading and studying the discrete circuit board descriptions in Ten-Tec manuals. While the manual may be deficient in some respects, it still fills my needs and provides me with the information I want/need. When it doesn't, "Hello, Ten-Tec!" > The fact that most TenTec owners are technically savvy to the point where > digging into their rigs presents no particular or serious problem does > not mitigate the situation. > > Granted one can call TenTec service but why should we have to. Because they have likely experienced the same problem before and can zero in on the fix quickly, saving you money and time? > I, for > one, do want somebody to hold my hand and lead me through a repair > procedure. All of the pertinent information required to diagnose/fix the > rig should be contained in the manual. That is the whole purpose of the > manual. I think anyone would have a hard time finding a manual that provided 'all the pertinent information required to diagnose/fix the rig' for every possible problem that could develop. The only thing that could be guaranteed having the manufacturer provide such a manual would be an increase in the cost of the product that manual supports. 73, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kf3dg@epix.net Thu Sep 14 17:07:02 2000 From: kf3dg@epix.net (PAUL REAMS) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:07:02 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] WTB:FM BOARD FOR PARAGON OR OMNI V Message-ID: <39C0F7A6.702BE886@epix.net> ANYONE HAVE AN FM BOARD FOR EITHER A PARAGON OR OMNI V THEY WOULD LIKE TO SELL? TNX PAUL KF3DG@EPIX.NET -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From rbdrake@erols.com Wed Sep 13 20:26:15 2000 From: rbdrake@erols.com (Richard B Drake) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:26:15 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI+ Keyer Speed Mod Message-ID: I have had an Omni VI+ for about a year now and it has always had a slightly annoying drift in the keyed speed. For some reason I just put up with this without complaining. In a recent electrical storm my OMNI was damaged by a nearby lightning strike. So, I returned it to Ten-Tec for repair. While they had it there they put in something called the "Keyed Speed Mod" without my even asking for it (First class outfit!). Indeed, now the keyer speed is rock stable. So, if there are others out there quietly putting up with this malady, there is a fix for it. --- 73, Rich - W3ZJ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Wed Sep 13 22:05:48 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:05:48 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] WTB QSK TEN-TEC Amplifier Message-ID: <20000913.170554.-1048319.3.gctotten@juno.com> Hi Gang, I did not get a response to my request for a Centaur amplifier so I'll broaden the field to include the CENTURIAN. Anyone out there with one, with or without tubes they would like to part with for cash or a clean, mint PARAGON ? BTW, I plan on being at the GRAYSLAKE SWAP in Ill. on the 23rd of September. And perhaps at the TEN-TEC gathering at the factory in a few weeks. 73 Jerry K8JRO gctotten@juno.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n4elm@home.com Thu Sep 14 05:25:27 2000 From: n4elm@home.com (Dave Redfearn) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:25:27 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Sold - Ten Tec 2.4 Khz, 500 Hz filters, and Calibrator References: <39BD9C89.197705F7@home.com> Message-ID: <39C05337.B8C20809@home.com> The # 217 and # 220 crystal filters and the Argosy Calibrator have been spoken for. Thanks for the response! 73 - Dave =================================================== Dave Redfearn, ARS N4ELM, McKinney, TX Email: n4elm@NOJUNKhome.com (to reply, remove NOJUNK) QRL? de N4ELM/qrp -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mark@microenh.com Thu Sep 14 17:10:25 2000 From: mark@microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:10:25 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Omni V Power Connector Message-ID: <002401c01e66$a6da8490$0d351cd8@microenh> On the Omni V DC power connector there are 4 pins:. +12 and GND go on the outside two. On the power cable that came with my rig, the center two were jumpered together. Everything works fine when I connect the power cable to my Astron 12V supply, but I wonder what the center two pins are for? I suspect that they turn a Ten-Tec power supply on and off in respone to the Omni V's power switch, but the schematic just shows them jumpered. Could I use these to control On/Off on my Astron supply? 73, Mark, N8ME -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Frank Krozel" Message-ID: <000701c01e69$9f858160$bea7aec7@kg9h> I love to trade rigs, and from time to time I get a Ten Tec rig with burned out bulbs. In addition, I see people using a Ten Tec rig with "another" power supply. As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to 13.8 or higher volts, I am curious IF there is a connection with burned out bulbs ( are Ten Tec's rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. My Ten Tec Triton II (yes 2!) still has the original bulbs in it, but the supply is the matching one, set at 12 volts or so. Frank Krozel KG9H -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From KF6ZZ@aol.com Thu Sep 14 17:57:41 2000 From: KF6ZZ@aol.com (KF6ZZ@aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:57:41 EDT Subject: [TenTec] More discussion on the TT 1201 Desk Mic..... Message-ID: <3a.a59574a.26f25d85@aol.com> In a message dated 00-09-14 02:33:43 EDT, you wrote: << Subj: Design flaws in the TT 1201 Desk Mic..... Date: 00-09-14 02:33:43 EDT From: jwl@telus.net (JWL) To: KF6ZZ@aol.com Phil: Here is what I found. Mic Bias (Measured voltages at various points): (Battery voltage used = 9.52V) Before R11 = 7.43V Between R11 and R14 = 1.38V At Mic Element = 0.77V (more than you got, but seems low still) OP AMP (mine is an LF441): VCC (Pin 7) = 6.00V Pin 2 = 3.44V Pin 3 = 3.44V Pin 6 = 3.44V I was then curious about the battery supply voltage and its effect on the bias voltage, so I repeated all of the above with a supply battery voltage of 13.10V: Mic Bias ( Measured voltages at various points ): (Battery voltage used = 13.10V) Before R11 = 10.80V Between R11 and R14 = 4.23V At Mic Element = 3.58V ( A ha ! ) OP AMP ( mine is an LF441): VCC (Pin 7) = 9.28V Pin 2 = 5.14V Pin 3 = 5.14V Pin 6 = 5.14V ALL THE BIAS VOLTAGES ON THE OP AMP LOOK GOOD, SO WE CAN ASSUME THE OP AMP IS WORKING PROPERLY. It appears from the voltage drops that the mic element consumes about 300uA with the correct bias (i.e. voltage drop/R) correct? YES, WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS THE CONSTANT CURRENT THRU THE INTERNAL FET THAT IS BUILT INTO 99.99% OF THE ELECTRET ELEMENTS OUT THERE. THE FET IS NECESSARY TO CONVERT THE HIGH IMPEDANCE OF THE ELECTRET BOUNDARY TO A USEABLE LEVEL. USUALLY, A VOLTAGE GREATER THAN ~ 1.5 VOLTS IS REQUIRED TO BRING THE V-I CHARACTERISTIC OF THE FET OUT OF THE LINEAR REGION INTO THE CONSTANT CURRENT REGION, WHERE THE FET HAS ENOUGH TRANSCONDUCTANCE TO DO IT'S JOB OF AMPLIFYING..... If we knew the maximum bias voltage that the mic element can withstand, we could work backwards and determine if your suggested new value for R11 is safe for all supply voltages. If the element can take 10V, ALL THE SPEC SHEETS I HAVE SEEN ON ELECTRET MIC CAPSULES SPEC OPERATING VOLTAGE RANGE 2~10 VDC. THEY ALSO WARN OF A 3dB DEGRADATION OF OUTPUT AT A BIAS VOLTAGE OF 1.5 VDC --- AND PROBABLY IT IS EVEN WORSE FOR VOLTAGES LESS THAN 1.5 VDC . then I think it's probably safe - would have to test it. I guess the trick is to find R values that allow a proper bias over a wide range of supply voltages. ALL YOU WOULD NEED TO DO IS: CALCULATE THE VALUE R11 AND R14 TO PROVIDE THE MAXIMUM EXPECTED BIAS CURRENT AT THE MINIMUM SUPPLY VOLTAGE. AND THEN ALLOW THE ELECTRET BIAS VOLTAGE TO RISE FOR MAX SUPPLY VOLTAGE --- PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN GET TO 10 VOLTS ACROSS THE ELECTRET.... FOR YOUR ELEMENT THE NUMBERS WOULD BE: MIN VOLTAGE AT TOP OF R11 ~ 6 V MIN VOLTAGE ACROSS ELECTRET ~ 2 V CURRENT CUNSUMPTION ~300 uA THAT LEAVES 4 VOLTS DROP ACROSS RESISTIVE STRING. 4 VOLTS DIVIDED BY 300 microamps EQUALS 13333 OHMS. SINCE R14 IS ALREADY 2200, R11 BECOMES ~11K. NOW THEN, AT MAX SUPPLY VOLTAGE( 14- .7=13.3 V ), THE CURRENT CONSUMPTION REMAINS THE SAME ( ~ 300 uA ); SO THEN THE CURRENT THRU THE R11 & R14 REMAINS THE SAME; AND THE VOLTAGE DROP ACROSS THE RESISTIVE STRING REMAINS THE SAME, THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES IS THE VOLTAGE ACROSS THE MIC ELEMENT. WHICH NOW WOULD BE 13.7- 4 = 9.7 VOLTS. WHICH IS OKAY ... I wonder if Ten Tec designed the voltage divider that biases the Mic element for a 14V supply, then set the minimum supply voltage by what is required by the ICs, but forgot that the lower supply voltage would not adequately bias the Mic ? Make any sense to you ? YES, THIS WOULD BE AN EASY MISTAKE TO MAKE AT A SMALL COMPANY WITH LIMITED RESOURCES Your "typo" theory on the change in values also is a good possibility and perhaps more likely. James, VE7JLZ >>> -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n4lq@iglou.com Thu Sep 14 18:05:58 2000 From: n4lq@iglou.com (Steve Ellington) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies In-Reply-To: <000701c01e69$9f858160$bea7aec7@kg9h> Message-ID: This most certainly could be a factor. Many TT rigs use the same type of bulb as our grandmother's 1942 Zenith while the other brands use pea lamps which seem to last longer but are hard to change. As much as I like the 238 tuner, it takes a lot of light to iluminate the dial and I couldn't understand why they didn't just make the pointer move visible so a bulb wouldn't be needed at all. Some folks use series dropping resistors to increase the bulb life at the expense of lumens. > > I love to trade rigs, and from time to time I get a Ten Tec rig with burned > out bulbs. In addition, I see people using a Ten Tec rig with "another" > power supply. > As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to 13.8 or higher volts, I > am curious IF there is a connection with burned out bulbs ( are Ten Tec's > rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. > My Ten Tec Triton II (yes 2!) still has the original bulbs in it, but the > supply is the matching one, set at 12 volts or so. > Frank Krozel > KG9H > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > Steve Ellington N4LQ N4LQ@IGLOU.COM -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w2fca@qsl.net Thu Sep 14 18:14:52 2000 From: w2fca@qsl.net (w2fca@qsl.net) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:14:52 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and 'other' power supplies Message-ID: <140900258.36890@209.118.197.143> --- Original Message --- "Frank Krozel" Wrote on Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:34:14 -0500 ------------------ As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to 13.8 or higher volts, I am curious IF there is a connection with burned out bulbs ( are Ten Tec's rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. ------------------ I'm not sure where the idea of TenTecs running at 12v comes from, but this is from their web page concerning the power supply for the Omni series - "Model 962, Power Supply/Speaker - Cosmetically matches OMNI-VI PLUS, 115/230 VAC, 50/60 Hz input. 13.8 VDC, 22 A output. Resetting electronic latching circuit breaker limits current to protect transceiver. " Mine puts out 13.8 too, not 12 Frank W2FCA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Thu Sep 14 18:51:24 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:51:24 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI+ Keyer Speed Mod References: Message-ID: <39C1101C.396D@infoave.net> I seem to recall adding a bypass cap to fix the problem. Can't remember where however. Seems that RF was getting into one of the data lines associated with the keyer. 73 Bob Richard B Drake wrote: > > I have had an Omni VI+ for about a year now and it has always had > a slightly annoying drift in the keyed speed. For some reason I > just put up with this without complaining. In a recent electrical > storm my OMNI was damaged by a nearby lightning strike. So, I > returned it to Ten-Tec for repair. While they had it there they > put in something called the "Keyed Speed Mod" without my even > asking for it (First class outfit!). Indeed, now the keyer speed > is rock stable. So, if there are others out there quietly putting > up with this malady, there is a fix for it. > > --- > 73, Rich - W3ZJ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From reid.w.simmons@intel.com Thu Sep 14 18:44:02 2000 From: reid.w.simmons@intel.com (Simmons, Reid W) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:44:02 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies Message-ID: <1C866BFE7D63D211AC3E00A0C969E97304788D49@orsmsx39.jf.intel.com> Frank; I believe the PS for the Omni VI puts out 13.8 (mine does anyway) and I have not lost a bulb in the 8+ years I have had it. I have not looked at the bulb ratings in it but if I were the designer I would use 14 volt bulbs in a rig whose PS puts out 13.8 volts. Reid, K7YX Beaverton, OR -----Original Message----- From: Frank Krozel [mailto:frank@electronicinstrument.com] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:34 AM To: tentec@contesting.com Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies I love to trade rigs, and from time to time I get a Ten Tec rig with burned out bulbs. In addition, I see people using a Ten Tec rig with "another" power supply. As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to 13.8 or higher volts, I am curious IF there is a connection with burned out bulbs ( are Ten Tec's rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. My Ten Tec Triton II (yes 2!) still has the original bulbs in it, but the supply is the matching one, set at 12 volts or so. Frank Krozel KG9H -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jcox" Message-ID: <001701c01e78$1414f340$3a4231cc@jimcox> I have never had a Ten Tec power supply that was set for 12 volts, always about 13.5 or so. It is possible to set them for 12 volts, but 13.8 is the standard.. Jim K4JAF ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 12:14 PM Subject: RE: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and 'other' power supplies > > > > --- Original Message --- > "Frank Krozel" Wrote on > Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:34:14 -0500 > ------------------ > As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to > 13.8 or higher volts, I am curious IF there is a > connection with burned out bulbs ( are Ten Tec's > rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. > ------------------ > I'm not sure where the idea of TenTecs running at 12v comes from, > but this is from their web page concerning the power supply for > the Omni series - > > "Model 962, Power Supply/Speaker - Cosmetically matches OMNI-VI > PLUS, 115/230 VAC, 50/60 Hz input. 13.8 VDC, 22 A output. Resetting > electronic latching circuit breaker limits current to protect > transceiver. " > > Mine puts out 13.8 too, not 12 > > Frank > W2FCA > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > > ----- > Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) > The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From N4NT@chartertn.net Thu Sep 14 19:20:58 2000 From: N4NT@chartertn.net (Michael O. Hyder) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:20:58 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Omni V Power Connector References: <002401c01e66$a6da8490$0d351cd8@microenh> Message-ID: <001301c01e78$88311240$bdefd818@chartertn.net> On Ten-Tec supplies, the two center connectors are in series with the panel switch, the transformer primary and the AC power line connection. The rigs, through a front panel switch, short the two center connectors in order to power on the supply. The switch within the rig is not capable of switching the DC current, so it is important that it not be so used. Responding to your question directly: yes, you can use those two pins from your rig in series with the AC switch on your Astron supply with no problem. Regards, Mike N4NT@chartertn.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Erbaugh" To: Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 12:10 PM Subject: [TenTec] Omni V Power Connector | | On the Omni V DC power connector there are 4 pins:. +12 and GND go on the | outside two. On the power cable that came with my rig, the center two were | jumpered together. Everything works fine when I connect the power cable to | my Astron 12V supply, but I wonder what the center two pins are for? I | suspect that they turn a Ten-Tec power supply on and off in respone to the | Omni V's power switch, but the schematic just shows them jumpered. Could I | use these to control On/Off on my Astron supply? | | 73, | Mark, N8ME -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From N4NT@chartertn.net Thu Sep 14 19:24:54 2000 From: N4NT@chartertn.net (Michael O. Hyder) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:24:54 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies References: <002401c01e66$a6da8490$0d351cd8@microenh> <000701c01e69$9f858160$bea7aec7@kg9h> Message-ID: <001d01c01e79$199d7700$bdefd818@chartertn.net> I believe your information is incorrect, Frank. I have many Ten-Tec rigs and supplies and most of the rigs will not operate properly from 12 volts. The problems are with the digital display, so perhaps your Triton II is not affected by that, but you can't properly extrapolate from that. The Ten-Tec supplies I have all put out about 13.8 volts DC. As the life of a lamp is very greatly extended by lowering its operating voltage, I put 33 ohm resistors in series with the lamps. Regards, Mike N4NT@chartertn.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Krozel" To: Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 12:34 PM Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies | | I love to trade rigs, and from time to time I get a Ten Tec rig with burned | out bulbs. In addition, I see people using a Ten Tec rig with "another" | power supply. | As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to 13.8 or higher volts, I | am curious IF there is a connection with burned out bulbs ( are Ten Tec's | rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. | My Ten Tec Triton II (yes 2!) still has the original bulbs in it, but the | supply is the matching one, set at 12 volts or so. | Frank Krozel | KG9H -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From rbdrake@erols.com Thu Sep 14 19:34:53 2000 From: rbdrake@erols.com (Richard B Drake) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:34:53 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies In-Reply-To: <000701c01e69$9f858160$bea7aec7@kg9h> Message-ID: Maybe your Triton II runs at 12 volts. My OMNI 6+ runs at 13.5 volts in receive mode, measured at the auxiliary power jack on the back of the OMNI. I'm using the Ten-Tec 9420 power supply (the big one that also powers the Herc II). Under full load it drops to 12.5 volts but most of the time we are just listening - right? I have had no problem with panel lamps. --- 73, Rich - W3ZJ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-tentec@contesting.com > [mailto:owner-tentec@contesting.com]On > Behalf Of Frank Krozel > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 12:34 PM > To: tentec@contesting.com > Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies > > > > I love to trade rigs, and from time to time I get a Ten > Tec rig with burned > out bulbs. In addition, I see people using a Ten Tec > rig with "another" > power supply. > As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to 13.8 > or higher volts, I > am curious IF there is a connection with burned out > bulbs ( are Ten Tec's > rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. > My Ten Tec Triton II (yes 2!) still has the original > bulbs in it, but the > supply is the matching one, set at 12 volts or so. > Frank Krozel > KG9H > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Thu Sep 14 21:20:48 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:20:48 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Omni V Power Connector In-Reply-To: <002401c01e66$a6da8490$0d351cd8@microenh> Message-ID: > On the Omni V DC power connector there are 4 pins:. +12 and GND go on the > outside two. On the power cable that came with my rig, the center two were > jumpered together. Everything works fine when I connect the power cable to > my Astron 12V supply, but I wonder what the center two pins are for? I > suspect that they turn a Ten-Tec power supply on and off in respone to the > Omni V's power switch, but the schematic just shows them > jumpered. Could I > use these to control On/Off on my Astron supply? > I am using the Ten-Tec Model 961 Power Supplies with my Model 563, Omni VI's. The power supply schematic shows the upper of the two inner leads connecting to the MDL6 line fuse and to the hot side of the AC power plug. The lower of the two inner leads connects to a 0.01 bypass capacitor (c6) and power on/off switch. The internal jumpering together of the two pins in the Omni VI radio does nothing but loop through the one side of the AC power plug to the power supply power on/off switch. Bear in mind that the loop through is simply that and in doesn't control the on/off status of the power supply from the radio on/off switch. The only way it would control the power supply would be if the power supply-radio power cable plug were disconnected from the back of the radio. That would break the loop and the power supply would be shut down. The P.S. manual says the 961 is for the 560/561 and 585 transceivers--no mention of 563. Those other radios may well have the two inner leads running to the radio's on/off switch to control the power supply on/off state. If your Omni V schematic shows the two pins jumpered internally, then there's not much you can do short of rewiring your Omni V (which I don't think you really want to do). 73, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Thu Sep 14 21:25:35 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:25:35 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies In-Reply-To: <000701c01e69$9f858160$bea7aec7@kg9h> Message-ID: > > I love to trade rigs, and from time to time I get a Ten Tec rig > with burned > out bulbs. In addition, I see people using a Ten Tec rig with "another" > power supply. > As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to 13.8 or higher volts, Where'd you hear that, Frank? My Model 536 manual specs say: Power required: 2 A receive, 20 A transmit @ 12-14 VDC. > am curious IF there is a connection with burned out bulbs ( are Ten Tec's > rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. > My Ten Tec Triton II (yes 2!) still has the original bulbs in it, but the > supply is the matching one, set at 12 volts or so. > Frank Krozel > KG9H > My Model 961 Power Supply manual specs say: Output voltage: 13.8 Vdc, internally adjustable from 11.5 to 15.0 Vdc. 73, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From nw4p@martha.xtn.net Thu Sep 14 22:09:52 2000 From: nw4p@martha.xtn.net (nw4p@martha.xtn.net) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:09:52 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Voltage Use Message-ID: <200009142109.RAA15145@secure.xtn.net> Gentlemen, The Omni 6+ says 12-15 VDC usage. What is the effect on the radio, if the voltage is increased to the max of 15 VDC? Just wondering!! 73 Richard NW4P -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From royanjoy@ncn.net Thu Sep 14 23:19:38 2000 From: royanjoy@ncn.net (Roy Koeppe) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:19:38 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Voltage Use Message-ID: <009e01c01e99$dfd239e0$142448ce@h648s> Concerning: "Gentlemen, The Omni 6+ says 12-15 VDC usage. What is the effect on the radio, if the voltage is increased to the max of 15 VDC? Just wondering!!" 73 Richard NW4P In my experiences, running a solid state rig at or near its maximum voltage rating increased its power output by a surprisingly substantial amount. Try it--you'll like it. (That is, if you desire more RF power). 73, Roy K6XK Iowa -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jeff@n9avg.org Fri Sep 15 01:03:55 2000 From: jeff@n9avg.org (Jeff Davis) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:03:55 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] For Sale Message-ID: <20000914200355.C29007@n9avg.org> I have the following equipment for sale: TenTec Omni D Series C, 100 watt Digital Tranceiver, 160-10m (includes WARC), CW, SSB, positons plus 3 active audio CW filter. Very clean. $350 TenTec Model 255 deluxe power supply/speaker. Very clean. $85 TenTec Model 243 External VFO. Works FB but does NOT have the stock feet on the rear. $100 TenTec Argosy 525 analog. This is a nice radio that works FB but the cabinet is a little rough. Several little dings and scratches. 50w or 5 watt selectable. Includes the calibrator and the Embedded Research AF-224 audio filter. PTO was rebuilt about a year ago. Nice receiver and works FB. $150 All prices include shipping in the CONUS. Contact me off the list for more information. See you all at the Tentec Hamfest next month! -- jeff davis, n9avg http://n9avg.org/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From k7zum@teleport.com Fri Sep 15 02:40:27 2000 From: k7zum@teleport.com (Ken K7ZUM) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:40:27 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies References: Message-ID: <007c01c01eb5$ef14b740$14051ad8@k7zum> > . As much as I like the > 238 tuner, it takes a lot of light to iluminate the dial and I couldn't > understand why they didn't just make the pointer move visible so a bulb > wouldn't be needed at all. Some folks use series dropping resistors to > increase the bulb life at the expense of lumens. and another Ideal that I have used on my 238 tuner is to use a couple of 1 amp diodes in series, that will drop it about 1.4 volts, did that many years ago and still have the same light bulbs. 73..... Ken...... K7ZUM -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From WA2PVK@prodigy.net Fri Sep 15 02:36:27 2000 From: WA2PVK@prodigy.net (William Mansey) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:36:27 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) Message-ID: <001001c01eb5$5e934ec0$5153fe3f@default> My opinion on the subject is that it is NOT good to operate equipment at EITHER "end" of the recommended voltage range. Too low a supply voltage is as potentially harmful as too much. Ohm's law states that (among other things) that Power equals current times voltage. If a piece of equipment tries to maintain the same amount of power and the voltage is reduced - - - then the current would have to increase to make up the difference. Many types of electronic equipment have circuits requiring different voltages also. This means voltage regulators are used. Voltage extremes can give regulators a workout. My suggestion is to stay comfortably within the specified voltage range! Any potential gains in power out are not worth the risks involved. This is, of course, just my opinion. I do tend to be careful where the risks out weigh the gains! NOT to mention the expense of fixing or replacing something! -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us Fri Sep 15 13:42:35 2000 From: SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us (Sherrill WATKINS) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:42:35 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) Message-ID: I tend to agree with Mr. Mansey's observations on operating voltage. Ohms's law and common sense indicates that if one operates on the high side that the additional voltage will cause the resistors, transistors and transformers to run hotter. This alone will shorten the life of the equipment. There have been several articles in ELECTRIC RADIO and the OLD TIMERS BULLETIN about the benefitts of operating old and antique vacuum tube equipment at low supply voltage from a Variac or step down transformer. It seems that a 5 to 10% drop in the filament voltage and a 10 to 20% drop in the B+ will work wonders on greatly extending the life of boatachor equipment. I have confirmed this as a friend of mine used to maintain the Virginia State Police statewide point to point microwave links and was one of the persons who first installed the system in the early 1960's. At that time it was all vacuum tube operated. He said that at some remote locatons the utility line voltage was very low, around 113vac , instead of the normal 120 vac. The equipment stayed on all the time and in 18 years at those locations they never had to replace any vacuum tubes!! At my house, the line voltage is very high, measured at 125. 3 vac, and I am constantly replacing burned out light bulbs. - Sherrill W. k4own >>> "William Mansey" 09/14/00 09:36PM >>> My opinion on the subject is that it is NOT good to operate equipment at EITHER "end" of the recommended voltage range. Too low a supply voltage is as potentially harmful as too much. Ohm's law states that (among other things) that Power equals current times voltage. If a piece of equipment tries to maintain the same amount of power and the voltage is reduced - - - then the current would have to increase to make up the difference. Many types of electronic equipment have circuits requiring different voltages also. This means voltage regulators are used. Voltage extremes can give regulators a workout. My suggestion is to stay comfortably within the specified voltage range! Any potential gains in power out are not worth the risks involved. This is, of course, just my opinion. I do tend to be careful where the risks out weigh the gains! NOT to mention the expense of fixing or replacing something! -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From royanjoy@ncn.net Fri Sep 15 14:09:04 2000 From: royanjoy@ncn.net (Roy Koeppe) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:09:04 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Voltage Use Message-ID: <004f01c01f16$20a1f380$402448ce@h648s> Written, "There is nothing surprising about it, it's a 25% increase in voltage. Assuming you still have the same collector current it's a 25% increase in power or in other terms slightly less than 1 db. What is the affect on your signal strength at a distant point? 3 db (a doubling of power) is the smallest change that can be detected by the human ear. In other words negligible! What is the affect in wear and tear to your finals? Don't know, but it can't be good! Think I'll stick with the factory adjusted and recommended 13.5 volts!" Firstly, the upper limit stated by the factory is still "within limits" and supposedly blessed by Ten-Tec as OK. Secondly, sometimes we have a reason to run the upper limit possible. Example, your amp may require full exciter output in order to be driven to its full rated output. (I know, you don't like THAT idea either--go ahead--be a QRPer!). :-) 73, Roy K6XK -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From geraldj@ames.net Fri Sep 15 15:20:21 2000 From: geraldj@ames.net (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:20:21 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) References: Message-ID: <39C23025.479D@ames.net> In a solid state PA, one has limited voltage swing to begin with. Operating at 12 volts instead of 13.8 takes away nearly two volts of that swing that was probably only 10 to begin with. Can drop the available power by that change squared. So the output power drops (since the impedance matching is fixed by the output transformer) by 8/10 squared dropping full power to 64% power. The peak currents try to be the same but don't make it. The ALC tries to let the radio do full power so lets the drive be high and cause splatter. Some voltage regulator circuits (Scout for one) require more than 12 volts to regulate. Likely there's a 10 volt regulator for some critical circuits that requires 2.5 volts minimum overhead to maintain regulation. I know when my dad's battery voltage gets low, the first sign of low voltage from his TS-440 output (besides loss of output power) is that his voice begins to sound raspy. At the extreme his bandwidth increases to about 20 KHz. Where radios were designed for 117 volts and have 125 volts applied, tube and lamp life can be shortened. A variac or bucking transformer can correct the excessive line voltage (if the utility won't correct it) to extend equipment life. Without a bucking transformer for the whole house one should purchase 125 or 130 volt rated lamps instead of the common 120 or 115 volt rated lamps for a far greater lamp life. 5% change in lamp voltage causes a doubling or halving of lamp life, depending on the direction of change. I have found 130 volt lamps at Dollar General for reasonable prices. 13.8 volt power supplies generally used for ham gear regulate the output voltage independent of the line voltage. 73, Jerry, K0CQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jeff@n9avg.org Fri Sep 15 17:43:21 2000 From: jeff@n9avg.org (Jeff Davis) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:43:21 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Upcoming Fest Message-ID: <20000915124307.D4398@n9avg.org> Since this is off-topic for the list I'd appreciate if you'd reply via email and not to the list. My wife and I are planning to travel to Tentec for the upcoming HamFest in October. We have never been to that part of Tennessee and realize that while it is a tourist area (Gatlinburg,DollyWood, etc.) I wonder if anyone could recommend a good place to stay? Vy 73, -- jeff davis, n9avg http://n9avg.org/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us Fri Sep 15 19:09:40 2000 From: SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us (Sherrill WATKINS) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:09:40 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Upcoming Fest Message-ID: Call Motel 6, they will leave the light on for ya! - Sherrill W. k4own >>> Jeff Davis 09/15/00 12:43PM >>> Since this is off-topic for the list I'd appreciate if you'd reply via email and not to the list. My wife and I are planning to travel to Tentec for the upcoming HamFest in October. We have never been to that part of Tennessee and realize that while it is a tourist area (Gatlinburg,DollyWood, etc.) I wonder if anyone could recommend a good place to stay? Vy 73, -- jeff davis, n9avg http://n9avg.org/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From reid.w.simmons@intel.com Fri Sep 15 19:03:17 2000 From: reid.w.simmons@intel.com (Simmons, Reid W) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:03:17 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies Message-ID: <1C866BFE7D63D211AC3E00A0C969E97304788D50@orsmsx39.jf.intel.com> Bob; Yes you are probably correct. I forgot about the lamp dimming feature - duh! Reid, K7YX -----Original Message----- From: Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX [mailto:RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:53 PM To: Simmons Reid W Cc: 'Frank Krozel'; tentec@contesting.com Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies I seem to recall that the Omni VI+ has 6 volts lamps which work with a dimmer, typically at 5V. The power supply (Tentec) outputs 13.8. Yes, 14 volt lamps are the correct choice for a 13.8V supply. Be advised that lamps such as the old standby #47 can be purchased as #1847. The #47 lamps have a rated life of 5000 hours while the #1847 lamps have a rated life of 20,000 hours. If you are interested in long life lamps, choose a circuit which uses a 5V lamp with 5V applied as opposed to a circuit which uses a 24V lamp with 24V supplied. The long filament in a high voltage lamp is subject to mechanical shock and subsequent early failure. Also, lamps which are supplied with AC as opposed to DC will last about 50% longer. Filament evaporation is reduced due to polarity changes at 60Hz. Bob K4TAX Simmons Reid W wrote: > > Frank; > > I believe the PS for the Omni VI puts out 13.8 (mine does anyway) and I have > not lost a bulb in the 8+ years I have had it. I have not looked at the > bulb ratings in it but if I were the designer I would use 14 volt bulbs in a > rig whose PS puts out 13.8 volts. > > Reid, K7YX > Beaverton, OR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Krozel [mailto:frank@electronicinstrument.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:34 AM > To: tentec@contesting.com > Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies > > I love to trade rigs, and from time to time I get a Ten Tec rig with burned > out bulbs. In addition, I see people using a Ten Tec rig with "another" > power supply. > As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to 13.8 or higher volts, I > am curious IF there is a connection with burned out bulbs ( are Ten Tec's > rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. > My Ten Tec Triton II (yes 2!) still has the original bulbs in it, but the > supply is the matching one, set at 12 volts or so. > Frank Krozel > KG9H > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w5ben@arrl.net Fri Sep 15 22:07:44 2000 From: w5ben@arrl.net (dbudd) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:07:44 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) In-Reply-To: <39C23025.479D@ames.net> Message-ID: Theories, theories. All I know is that my Hercules works a heck of a lot better with the factory supply than it did with batteries which never produced any more than 12.5 vdc under load. 73, Budd, W5BEN w5ben@arrl.net Johnson City, in northeast TN -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From JBeamer@PanAmSat.com Fri Sep 15 22:07:04 2000 From: JBeamer@PanAmSat.com (Beamer, Jay) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:07:04 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec User's Net Message-ID: <51D11BFF2C20D41199D60050DA1C5873C81E@LBHEXCH2> Happy Friday, Just the reminder for the net this Sunday on 14.267 +/- st 3 pm local pacific, 4 pm local mountain, 5 pm local central, 6 pm local eastern, or 2200UTC. Have a nice weekend! Jay/KM6VX Torrance, Ca. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Fri Sep 15 05:53:10 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:53:10 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies References: <1C866BFE7D63D211AC3E00A0C969E97304788D49@orsmsx39.jf.intel.com> Message-ID: <39C1AB36.1541@infoave.net> I seem to recall that the Omni VI+ has 6 volts lamps which work with a dimmer, typically at 5V. The power supply (Tentec) outputs 13.8. Yes, 14 volt lamps are the correct choice for a 13.8V supply. Be advised that lamps such as the old standby #47 can be purchased as #1847. The #47 lamps have a rated life of 5000 hours while the #1847 lamps have a rated life of 20,000 hours. If you are interested in long life lamps, choose a circuit which uses a 5V lamp with 5V applied as opposed to a circuit which uses a 24V lamp with 24V supplied. The long filament in a high voltage lamp is subject to mechanical shock and subsequent early failure. Also, lamps which are supplied with AC as opposed to DC will last about 50% longer. Filament evaporation is reduced due to polarity changes at 60Hz. Bob K4TAX Simmons Reid W wrote: > > Frank; > > I believe the PS for the Omni VI puts out 13.8 (mine does anyway) and I have > not lost a bulb in the 8+ years I have had it. I have not looked at the > bulb ratings in it but if I were the designer I would use 14 volt bulbs in a > rig whose PS puts out 13.8 volts. > > Reid, K7YX > Beaverton, OR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Krozel [mailto:frank@electronicinstrument.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:34 AM > To: tentec@contesting.com > Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies > > I love to trade rigs, and from time to time I get a Ten Tec rig with burned > out bulbs. In addition, I see people using a Ten Tec rig with "another" > power supply. > As the Ten Tecs all run at 12 volts, as opposed to 13.8 or higher volts, I > am curious IF there is a connection with burned out bulbs ( are Ten Tec's > rated at 12 volts? ) and using "other" supplies. > My Ten Tec Triton II (yes 2!) still has the original bulbs in it, but the > supply is the matching one, set at 12 volts or so. > Frank Krozel > KG9H -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Fri Sep 15 06:28:24 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:28:24 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Voltage Use References: <200009142109.RAA15145@secure.xtn.net> Message-ID: <39C1B378.49E7@infoave.net> More output, more heat, and a dicey overload trip circuit. Don't let the load Z go much below 35 ohms or current will go out the roof, at least to 22 amps before the PSU trips off. If you are not using a Tentec supply, say a 35 to 45 amp ASTRON, buy PA transistors. 73 nw4p@martha.xtn.net wrote: > > Gentlemen, > The Omni 6+ says 12-15 VDC usage. What is the effect on the radio, > if the voltage is increased to the max of 15 VDC? Just wondering!! > 73 Richard NW4P -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From John & Debbie" Would anyone have a 505, They would like to swap for a new Icom PCR100 Reciever Interfaces into a computer nice graphical interface recieves from 100 thru 1.3 GHZ. AM FM WFM. 2 months old is like new in box with warrentee card blank. Software has not been opened yet. Would like to swap for a older cw ssb TenTec piece of gear. Thank You -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w1drw@home.com Fri Sep 15 17:28:06 2000 From: w1drw@home.com (David Ward) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:28:06 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] A pegasus with no tail In-Reply-To: <000901c019f9$b2916cc0$a309fea9@dad> Message-ID: My Pegasus was one of the very first off the line - August 1999. My finals failed after two weeks use. I packed it up and back it went to TT. About ten days later it was back and hasn't given me a moments problem since. I, too, wish things (especially spankin' new things) would not fail. However, they do. The true test is how well a company performs when their products don't work properly. Anyone had a new car with problems? -W1QH -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w1qh@home.com Fri Sep 15 17:38:01 2000 From: w1qh@home.com (David Ward) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 12:38:01 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Triton IV Message-ID: I bought a used analog Triton IV for $275, believing it was a fully functional unit. Well, it isn’t and I am not up to fixing it (my vision and recent health issues prohibit it). I think a knowledgeable person could get it going for not a lot of money. I will sell it for $100 plus what, $7 for shipping. Contact: w1qh@home.com 73, Dave Ward -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Fri Sep 15 23:25:34 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:25:34 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies Message-ID: <20000915.182540.-1047441.0.gctotten@juno.com> Reid, Are you sure the 1847 has a life of 20,000 hours? 73 Jerry K8JRO PS My book shows 5,000 hours. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Sat Sep 16 00:28:59 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ problem Message-ID: Seems like the used Omni 6+ i bought from Ten Tec is malfunctioning after about 3 weeks. At times the receiver seems to drop out, i.e., an S-9 station drops suddenly to an S-3 or so. not like in QSB, but suddenly. u can hear the signal nearly null out. i hit the dit or dah paddle on my keyer to transmit for a second, and the receiver pops back up to full sensitivity. Anyone have any problems like that? I called Ten Tec and looks like the rig needs to go back for repairs. am i disapointed? YESSSSSSSSSSS! Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kh7m@hsa-kauai.net Sat Sep 16 01:32:28 2000 From: kh7m@hsa-kauai.net (Jim Reid) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:32:28 -1000 Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ problem References: Message-ID: <001801c01f75$a37eba40$aa7ad818@gw400> > At times the receiver seems to drop out, i.e., an S-9.... > i hit the dit or dah paddle on my keyer to transmit for a > second, and the receiver pops back up to full > sensitivity. Does this sometimes happen immediately after you stop xmiting? Sounds as if you might have a dirty/worn T/R relay contact; otherwise, why would transmitting suddenly return the lost rcvr sensitivity. I had exactly the same problem, except the "bad" relay was over on a non-Ten Tec linear amp. In the O VI, try tapping on the K1 relay on the Low Pass Filter board (81592). This relay is supposed to be OPEN on rcv, and closed on transmit. Another relay is at the input of the BPF/FRONT END Board (81593). Again the relay is called K1, and it operates the -20 dB attenuator set up. When your signal is in the "fadeed" mode, try pushing the ATTN button ON/OFF a couple of times. If this relay is on the "fritz", the signal strength just might suddenly recover some 20 db in amplitude. Not sure why this would recover on xmit, however, while the one above must close during xmit, and be cleanly open on rcv. I'm not able to figure out the PTT function; have not been able to find it in the manual; perhaps something in that circuitry. It must, among other things, operate the K1 relay on the 81592 board. Just a couple of thoughts. 73, Jim, KH7M -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n5zpw@texas.net Sat Sep 16 02:32:35 2000 From: n5zpw@texas.net (Chris Somers) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:32:35 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] FS:TenTec model 253 antenna tuner Message-ID: <39C2CDB3.765DFC7B@texas.net> Hello everyone, I have a model 253 2kw auto antenna tuner for sale and I am asking $675.00 shipped to your door(lower 48),original box and manual,just replaced the RAM chip,also it looks perfect and works great ,just like it should .If you're interested please call me at 210-661-7166 or by email n5zpw@texas.net......tnx,Chris -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From timscot@lightspeed.net Sat Sep 16 03:33:19 2000 From: timscot@lightspeed.net (timscot) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:33:19 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Pegasus with no tail Response Message-ID: <000b01c01f86$7b5635a0$a309fea9@dad> >From Tim Scott To the group Well, I really thank everyone for their great responses to my TAIL HI HI .... well I sent the new rig back and am anxious to get it back, I know the fellas at TenTec will fix it. that is one of the sales points and a great one, their reputation for service, wether it be on the phone with a Tech, or sales. This is my first TenTec and my 1st dealings with the company, I have not been dissapointed so far. The only exception to that is I am not on the air with my new rig. I am following the newsgroup and watch and learn, hope to share my thoughts and questions, maybe answer a few questions myself. I thank everyone once again ... Have fun and hope to be on air soon again. 73 Tim Scott (KQ6UF) -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n1eu@hotmail.com Sat Sep 16 19:47:33 2000 From: n1eu@hotmail.com (Barry N1EU) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:47:33 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ problem Message-ID: This is a long shot, but check that you don't have the auto notch turned on Bob. GL/73, Barry N1EU >From: Bob Mauro - PeopleNet >To: tentec@contesting.com >Subject: [TenTec] Omni 6+ problem >Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:28:59 -0400 (EDT) > > >Seems like the used Omni 6+ i bought from Ten Tec is malfunctioning after >about 3 weeks. At times the receiver seems to drop out, i.e., an S-9 >station drops suddenly to an S-3 or so. not like in QSB, but suddenly. u >can hear the signal nearly null out. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From michon@eatel.net Sat Sep 16 22:06:31 2000 From: michon@eatel.net (Mike Michon) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:06:31 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Corsair ll 160meters Message-ID: <009301c02021$fe8f7d00$e7dc7cce@hp-customer> I finally had time to hook up my inverted L for 160 meters, have it matched and all looks well after battling the ants for my dirt under antenna. However, my Corsair only puts out 40 watts now on 160 meters. It puts out about75 watts on the other bands. Tried it into dummy load, still 40 watts, jiggled bandswitch, still 40 watts. Anything simple I am overlooking????????? Mike Michon AB5XP -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu Sat Sep 16 22:44:29 2000 From: csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu (Clark Savage Turner) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TenTec] Corsair and INRAD In-Reply-To: <009301c02021$fe8f7d00$e7dc7cce@hp-customer> Message-ID: Just a quick note, I talked to George up at INRAD, he had incorrect information about the Corsairs and didn't list the 9 MHz filters as available for them. Of course, the Corsair I provides a slot for the main 9 MHz filter (had the 4 pole filter standard) where you can stick a 10 pole 2.4 or an 8 pole 2.8 INRAD filter right out of the box. For the Corsair II, you need to pull the little board with the main 9 MHz filter (the model 220) and solder in an INRAD filter that fits right into the board holes. I have a 2.8 that I put into my Corsair II and am very happy with it. In addition, I spoke with George about cascading a second filter in that first IF for the Corsairs. He has a generic filter switchboard that would allow, say, a CW filter at the 9 MHz 1st IF ahead of the bank of filters in the 2nd IF at 6.3 MHz. On occasion, a second CW filter would seem to be called for in my Corsair II (it would be similar to the NAR position on the OMNI V and VI). I am going to try it out here and see how it works for me. It would involve mounting a small board and filter somewhere in there (plenty of room), some soldering of switch wires to a switch somewhere (or wiring to the mode switch, or to the regular CW filter switch to switch in a pair of CW filters instead of one....) It could be a Ten Tec ladder filter or an INRAD lattice filter, of course. This brings up a question about some old Argosy mod I saw in a 1989 QRP Quarterly... something about a filter in the BFO line that reduces overall noise in there. This mod was suggested for the Corsair, too, and was based on the KVG 9 MHz filters as I recall. Anyone do this to their Corsair? Clark WA3JPG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From k5yef@airmail.net Sat Sep 16 17:02:10 2000 From: k5yef@airmail.net (Art Harding) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:02:10 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] OMNI VI+ CAT564 VER 1.9 gets better 'n better Message-ID: <000901c01ff7$7f9617e0$a20388cf@ARTHARDING> Hi OMNI VI+ folks - and those of you who expressed interest! Version 1.9 of CAT564 to control your OMNI VI+ transceiver from your PC is quite a jump from the last version. The most significant addition, I believe, if the ability for you to create unlimited pop-up menus to deploy your radio Write them in plain text - the rules are simple - and they will be called from the program when you want them. Make up menus for skeds, nets - it's your call. And you can try this feature in freeware too! Go to the site and see what I mean! You can simply download a HELP file if you just want a look-see and you can download the whole enchilada without obligation also. download. I'm still working on a bigger documentation.) Hope you'll give it a try! 73 Art K5YEF http://www.k5yef.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mhawk@in-touch.net Sun Sep 17 02:51:18 2000 From: mhawk@in-touch.net (Mike Hawk) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 21:51:18 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] For Sale: Corsair ll Station with VFO Message-ID: <000a01c02049$c6d7b260$224fa03f@mikehawk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C02028.3EA11A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It breaks my heart but I am offering for sale my beloved Corsair ll, = power supply and remote VFO. Transceiver has the 2.4 and 1.8 khz = filters as well as the 500 hz and 250 hz cw filters. ps is 260 model, = VFO is 263G. Always in non-smoking environment, front panels are = practically like new. Side and top panels have very few mars or = scratches. Have always received excellent reports on ssb and cw. = Original manuals and original boxes (no original box for VFO). Includes = Astatic D104 microphone which has proven to be a very good combination. = Everything works well. Will not split up. Price is $950 conus. I will = email photograph to serious inquirees. Michael W8TG =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C02028.3EA11A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It breaks my heart but I am offering = for sale my=20 beloved Corsair ll, power supply and remote VFO. Transceiver has  = the 2.4=20 and 1.8 khz filters as well as the 500 hz and 250 hz cw filters. ps = is 260=20 model, VFO is 263G. Always in non-smoking environment, front = panels=20 are practically like new. Side and top panels have very few = mars or=20 scratches. Have always received excellent reports on ssb and = cw.=20 Original manuals and original boxes (no original box for VFO). = Includes=20 Astatic D104 microphone which has proven to be a very good combination.=20 Everything works well. Will not split up. Price is $950 conus. = I will=20 email photograph to serious inquirees. Michael  = W8TG   =20
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C02028.3EA11A60-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From seweber@netnitco.net Sun Sep 17 10:02:00 2000 From: seweber@netnitco.net (seweber@netnitco.net) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 04:02:00 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) In-Reply-To: <39C23025.479D@ames.net> References: Message-ID: My attempts to operate my Delta II on a 12V deep cycle battery have produced reports of distorted audio, which could only be eliminated by reducing the output to below 40 watts. I have been advised that the rig was probably FMing. This radio is only happy when fed with at least 13 volts, and comes into it's own at the magic 13.8vdc level. My experiences only, your mileage may vary, close cover before striking, don't run with scissors, and any other disclaimer that might apply! 73 de KD9BO Steve Steve Weber I want to know how God created the world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details. --Albert Einstein-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jmerril1@twcny.rr.com Sun Sep 17 12:52:47 2000 From: jmerril1@twcny.rr.com (John L Merrill) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:52:47 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) References: Message-ID: <001101c0209d$cc7d6c60$0300a8c0@jmerril1> This is an appent trait of a DeltaII. I know of a couple of others that have the same "problem". An IC-751A has this problem too. Some circiuts regulate the "12" volts down to what they need. In some cases they need more than 12 volts to regulate properly. I guess every radio has it's lower limit. Some lower than others. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) > > My attempts to operate my Delta II on a 12V deep cycle battery have > produced reports of distorted audio, which could only be eliminated by > reducing the output to below 40 watts. I have been advised that the rig > was probably FMing. This radio is only happy when fed with at least 13 > volts, and comes into it's own at the magic 13.8vdc level. > > My experiences only, your mileage may vary, close cover before striking, > don't run with scissors, and any other disclaimer that might apply! > > 73 de KD9BO Steve > > Steve Weber > > > I want to know how God created the world. > I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, > in the spectrum of this or that element. > I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details. > > --Albert Einstein-- > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From cwop@hotmail.com Sun Sep 17 13:06:02 2000 From: cwop@hotmail.com (Martin Braun) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 12:06:02 GMT Subject: [TenTec] Tentec Rigs w/ non QSK AMPS Message-ID: Need info on setting up a Heathkit SB200 amp for QSK operation with my Tentec Triton or Delta - Thanks in advance- Marty NC2B _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From cwop@hotmail.com Sun Sep 17 13:10:01 2000 From: cwop@hotmail.com (Martin Braun) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 12:10:01 GMT Subject: [TenTec] Glue for 277 Tuner Message-ID: The toroid in my 277 tuner has fallen off due to the glue drying out. What is the best glue to use. - Thanks in advance- Marty NC2B _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From cherry@neta.com Sun Sep 17 14:24:20 2000 From: cherry@neta.com (Jim FitzSimons) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 06:24:20 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Pegasus Message-ID: <002801c020aa$9749cfe0$6907fecf@pavilion> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0206F.E9EF32C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nick, I am using PTT and CW interface on MixW for my Pegasus. I got the Digipan interface so I do not have lots of wires. The Pegasus can use the key input for PTT. That means I only need one connection to RTS to key the Pegasus with QSK CW and send PSK31 or MFSK16. Stream uses RTS for PTT. MixW does not have a setting to do both PTT and CW on the same RTS line. I have to=20 change the setup in MixW when I go from PSK31 to CW. Is there a way MixW can use RTS for both CW and PTT? I am sending this direct because egroups is down again. I am using com port one to control the Pegasus and com port three to key the Pagsus. I hope Ten Tec changes the firmware so I can use one port to control and key the Pegasus. Until then MixW needs to control and key the Pegasus on different ports. I do not see how it can do that now. I am also using N4PY control software. Best regards, Jim FitzSimons W7ANF ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0206F.E9EF32C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nick, I am using PTT and CW interface on MixW for=20 my
Pegasus. I got the Digipan interface so I do not = have=20 lots
of wires. The Pegasus can use the key input for=20 PTT.
That means I only need one connection to RTS to=20 key
the Pegasus with QSK CW and send PSK31 or = MFSK16.
Stream uses RTS for PTT. MixW does not have a=20 setting
to do both PTT and CW on the same RTS line. I have = to=20
change the setup in MixW when I go from PSK31 to=20 CW.
Is there a way MixW can use RTS for both CW and=20 PTT?
I am sending this direct because egroups is down=20 again.
I am using com port one to control the Pegasus=20 and
com port three to key the Pagsus. I hope Ten Tec=20 changes
the firmware so I can use one port to control and = key=20 the
Pegasus. Until then MixW needs to control and = key=20 the
Pegasus on different ports. I do not see how it can = do=20 that
now. I am also using N4PY control = software.
Best regards, Jim FitzSimons W7ANF
 
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C0206F.E9EF32C0-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From geraldj@ames.net Sun Sep 17 14:52:56 2000 From: geraldj@ames.net (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:52:56 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Glue for 277 Tuner References: Message-ID: <39C4CCB8.549B@ames.net> Q-dope from GC. 73, Jerry, K0CQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ai6h@onemain.com Sun Sep 17 19:37:14 2000 From: ai6h@onemain.com (Jim Runge) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 11:37:14 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] WTB: 215 mic, 645 Keyer, 210 powersupply Message-ID: <008301c020d6$4d05f4a0$33d9efd1@gte.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C0209B.9FD61100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking to buy the following equipment for the Ten-Tec Argonaut 515 = the 215 black mic, 645 Keyer, and 210 powersupply. Thanks and = regards. 73 Jim AI6H ai6h@arrl.net or ai6h@onemain.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C0209B.9FD61100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am looking to buy the following = equipment for the=20 Ten-Tec Argonaut 515   the 215 black mic, 645 Keyer, and 210=20 powersupply.  Thanks and regards.  73  Jim = AI6H   =20 ai6h@arrl.net  or  ai6h@onemain.com =
------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C0209B.9FD61100-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From prosolar@sssnet.com Mon Sep 18 00:02:42 2000 From: prosolar@sssnet.com (mike bryce) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:02:42 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] omni D station for sale. Message-ID: Boys and girls.... In excess of my needs I have a Omni D (digital) with matching VFO and matching power supply. I also have the manuals. I purchased this station and have used it on the air. again, it is in excess of my needs the rig has several crystal filters in, but not the 500 hz cw filter. everything is in great shape, no scratches, dings or bangs... the power supply has the built in amp meter. sold as a set, not DOA but other wise sold as is. make me a offer.... -- Mike Bryce WB8VGE SunLight Energy Systems "Electricity at the speed of light" -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w6ur@bak.rr.com Sun Sep 17 23:41:59 2000 From: w6ur@bak.rr.com (Lou Roux) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 15:41:59 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] WTB T*T 1208 transverter Message-ID: <39C548B7.15AF5BFF@bak.rr.com> Hi all... Looking for a Ten-Tec 1208 transverter. Prefer factory wired unit but will consider a clean WORKING unit. Please advise price and condx. Thanks, Lou - W6UR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From royanjoy@ncn.net Mon Sep 18 14:11:53 2000 From: royanjoy@ncn.net (Roy Koeppe) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:11:53 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Using T-T rigs with non-QSK amps Message-ID: <00b101c02172$04715b20$752448ce@h648s> Asked, "Need info on setting up a Heathkit SB200 amp for QSK operation with my Tentec Triton or Delta - Thanks in advance- Marty NC2B" Marty, I have been using a QSK-1500 PIN diode antenna switcher for many years with great success. 73, Roy K6XK -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From royanjoy@ncn.net Mon Sep 18 14:21:46 2000 From: royanjoy@ncn.net (Roy Koeppe) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:21:46 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Glue... Message-ID: <00df01c02173$65fb5660$752448ce@h648s> "The toroid in my 277 tuner has fallen off due to the glue drying out. What is the best glue to use. - Thanks in advance- Marty NC2B" Ordinary silicone rubber glue. Roy K6XK -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us Mon Sep 18 14:25:38 2000 From: SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us (Sherrill WATKINS) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:25:38 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Re: Using T-T rigs with non-QSK amps Message-ID: Roy: Please tell us about your QSK-1500 PIN diode switcher! Is it a commercial item or did you build it? - Sherrill W. k4own >>> "Roy Koeppe" 09/18/00 09:11AM >>> Asked, "Need info on setting up a Heathkit SB200 amp for QSK operation with my Tentec Triton or Delta - Thanks in advance- Marty NC2B" Marty, I have been using a QSK-1500 PIN diode antenna switcher for many years with great success. 73, Roy K6XK -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From royanjoy@ncn.net Mon Sep 18 14:33:02 2000 From: royanjoy@ncn.net (Roy Koeppe) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:33:02 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: ...non-QSK amps Message-ID: <011801c02174$f8f4f560$752448ce@h648s> "Roy: Please tell us about your QSK-1500 PIN diode switcher! Is it a commercial item or did you build it?" - Sherrill W. k4own The QSK-1500 is a commercial unit. The factory is now out of biz, but the units do still appear from time to time at flea marts, etc. Original price: $300.00. 73, Gud Luck, Roy K6XK Iowa -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From royanjoy@ncn.net Mon Sep 18 14:53:09 2000 From: royanjoy@ncn.net (Roy Koeppe) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:53:09 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: ...non-QSK... Message-ID: <000901c02177$c82581e0$752448ce@h648s> "Roy, Doesn't MFJ have that item now?" QGF. -W4SK No, They sell a QSK-5. My friends have had no luck using it with T-T gear. Can't seem to get the timing right (out of sequence). Roy K6XK -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From reid.w.simmons@intel.com Mon Sep 18 16:06:24 2000 From: reid.w.simmons@intel.com (Simmons, Reid W) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:06:24 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies Message-ID: <1C866BFE7D63D211AC3E00A0C969E97304788D5A@orsmsx39.jf.intel.com> Jerry; I don't know, that particular post wasn't mine. Reid, K7YX -----Original Message----- From: Gerald C Totten [mailto:gctotten@juno.com] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:26 PM To: reid.w.simmons@intel.com; tentec@contesting.com Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten Tec rigs and "other" power supplies Reid, Are you sure the 1847 has a life of 20,000 hours? 73 Jerry K8JRO PS My book shows 5,000 hours. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Mon Sep 18 16:29:44 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice Message-ID: I talked to Ten Tec and Paul Clinton of their service dept says the Omni 6+ has NO RELAYS in it! Is that true? i thought my problem may be a TR relay in the rig. R there none in the Omni 6+?? U know, it might just be my old antenna coax switch. u think that's a possibility? as i mentioned previously, my receiver seems to drop out. i hit the dit or dah paddle of my keyer and the RX pops back up. Could that be a bad ant. coax switch maybe? that would be great. i had the switch in line and have that rx drop out on all bands. now i'm going straight to the antenna. perhaps i won't have that problem now. i'm hoping. But a few of u folks said the omni 6+ had relays. does it? or doesn't it? now i'm confused. Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Mon Sep 18 17:09:44 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: CORRECTION, guys! I talked to Paul again and it looks as tho there ARE relays in the Omni 6+. Just not a TR relay. the relays r band specific and so far every band i can work has the problem. but i'm trying to c now if it was my antenna switch. this can drive ya NUTS! Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Bob Mauro - PeopleNet wrote: > > I talked to Ten Tec and Paul Clinton of their service dept says the Omni > 6+ has NO RELAYS in it! Is that true? i thought my problem may be a TR > relay in the rig. R there none in the Omni 6+?? U know, it might just be > my old antenna coax switch. u think that's a possibility? as i > mentioned previously, > my receiver seems to drop out. i hit the dit or dah paddle of my keyer > and the RX pops back up. Could that be a bad ant. coax switch maybe? > that would be great. i had the switch in line and have that rx drop out > on all bands. now i'm going straight to the antenna. perhaps i won't > have that problem now. i'm hoping. > > But a few of u folks said the omni 6+ had relays. does it? or doesn't > it? now i'm confused. > > Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G > -------------------------------------------------------------- > My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro > My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html > My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html > -------------------------------------------------------------- > If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From rbdrake@erols.com Mon Sep 18 17:20:16 2000 From: rbdrake@erols.com (Richard B Drake) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:20:16 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Goodness! There must have been some misunderstanding between you and Paul because he surely knows that there are a number of relays in the OMNI 6+. Look at the schematic of the low pass filter board (Figure 4-4 in the manual) and you will see no less than 13 relays including the T/R switch (K1). There are a couple more relays lurking around on other circuit boards, though those are not likely the cause of your problem. Also, when you key the rig, don't you hear relays clicking? They are all reed relays which are fairly quiet but still clearly audible. Could the problem be with your external coax relay? Sure, it could be anywhere that causes an impedance problem between your antenna and your tx/rx circuitry. It could even be as simple as a loose or dirty coax connector. --- 73, Rich - W3ZJ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-tentec@contesting.com > [mailto:owner-tentec@contesting.com]On > Behalf Of Bob Mauro - PeopleNet > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:30 AM > To: tentec@contesting.com > Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice > > > > I talked to Ten Tec and Paul Clinton of their service > dept says the Omni > 6+ has NO RELAYS in it! Is that true? i thought my > problem may be a TR > relay in the rig. R there none in the Omni 6+?? U > know, it might just be > my old antenna coax switch. u think that's a possibility? as i > mentioned previously, > my receiver seems to drop out. i hit the dit or dah > paddle of my keyer > and the RX pops back up. Could that be a bad ant. coax > switch maybe? > that would be great. i had the switch in line and have > that rx drop out > on all bands. now i'm going straight to the antenna. > perhaps i won't > have that problem now. i'm hoping. > > But a few of u folks said the omni 6+ had relays. does > it? or doesn't > it? now i'm confused. > > Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro > My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html > My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ddrew@pacifier.com Mon Sep 18 17:59:53 2000 From: ddrew@pacifier.com (David Drew) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:59:53 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000918095338.00aa2df0@mail.pacifier.com> Bob, I had a similar problem with my OMNI VI plus and traced the problem to a bad, intermittent, coax run. I replaced several of my coaxs until I could determine which one was causing the problem. After identifying and replacing the troubled piece, I do not have the problem any more. It was just as you described, the signal would drop out/off/down and then after sending a dit/dot the signal would recover. Additionally, my SWR would change at the same time so I figured it must have been some part of the antenna system. There is a relay in the OMNI plus, it part of the transmit section. You might want to trace that down in the skematic. vy 73, Dave W7DPW . At 11:29 AM 9/18/00 -0400, you wrote: >I talked to Ten Tec and Paul Clinton of their service dept says the Omni >6+ has NO RELAYS in it! Is that true? i thought my problem may be a TR >relay in the rig. R there none in the Omni 6+?? U know, it might just be >my old antenna coax switch. u think that's a possibility? as i >mentioned previously, >my receiver seems to drop out. i hit the dit or dah paddle of my keyer >and the RX pops back up. Could that be a bad ant. coax switch maybe? >that would be great. i had the switch in line and have that rx drop out >on all bands. now i'm going straight to the antenna. perhaps i won't >have that problem now. i'm hoping. > >But a few of u folks said the omni 6+ had relays. does it? or doesn't >it? now i'm confused. > > Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G > -------------------------------------------------------------- > My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro > My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html > My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html > -------------------------------------------------------------- > If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec >Submissions: tentec@contesting.com >Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Mon Sep 18 20:30:32 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:30:32 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] W.T.B. CENTAUR Message-ID: <20000918.153040.-1027061.0.gctotten@juno.com> Time to try again, I would like to buy a nice clean CENTAUR in good working condition ( with 10 meters.) I have new tubes so the condition of the tubes in the amplifier is not important. Please reply direct, 73, Jerry K8JRO gctotten@juno.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From dsolberg@gdinet.com Mon Sep 18 19:16:49 2000 From: dsolberg@gdinet.com (Donald Solberg) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:16:49 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Has anyone modified a Scout 10M band module for 29 mhz and up? Message-ID: <000d01c0219c$9cc0cdf0$c0f92e9c@boulder.printrak.com> I would like to use my Scout to monitor the downlink from RS 12/13 and to use with the Ten Tec 20 to 2M transverter for 145-146 uplink. The Scout's module only covers to 29mhz. It looks like a very simple fix, with two new crystals. The manual doesn't have any specs on the crystals. Does anyone have a suggestion where I got get new crystals. Don Solberg WB9GRI -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Mon Sep 18 16:05:44 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:05:44 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) References: Message-ID: <39C62F48.5D32@infoave.net> I find that most 12V radios typically don't work reliably on 12V. They really require about 13 to 15 volts. This is kinda like the days when we referred to the household voltage of 110 or 220 volts. It hasn't been 110 or 220 volts in years. Or like car batteries considered to be 12V. The charging values run 13.4 to 14.6 depending on temperature. Many radios use internal regulators that output 10V. These require some 1.4 volts min above the regulated value, some more, to properly operate. Considering even a small IR drop from the battery to the radio plus 1.4 volts one can see that 12V is not adequate. 73 Bob K4TAX seweber@netnitco.net wrote: > > My attempts to operate my Delta II on a 12V deep cycle battery have > produced reports of distorted audio, which could only be eliminated by > reducing the output to below 40 watts. I have been advised that the rig > was probably FMing. This radio is only happy when fed with at least 13 > volts, and comes into it's own at the magic 13.8vdc level. > > My experiences only, your mileage may vary, close cover before striking, > don't run with scissors, and any other disclaimer that might apply! > > 73 de KD9BO Steve > > Steve Weber > > I want to know how God created the world. > I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, > in the spectrum of this or that element. > I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details. > > --Albert Einstein-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From geraldj@ames.net Mon Sep 18 19:55:05 2000 From: geraldj@ames.net (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:55:05 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Has anyone modified a Scout 10M band module for 29 mhz and up? References: <000d01c0219c$9cc0cdf0$c0f92e9c@boulder.printrak.com> Message-ID: <39C66509.4C3D@ames.net> You could take out the existing crystals and send them to ICM in Oklahoma City requesting Ham grade copies 1 MHz higher in frequency. Tell them the current frequencies which the Scout manual should identify somewhere. Or accept some calibration error and order stock crystals for frequencies 1 MHz higher. Though I'm not certain both need to be 1 MHz higher. I don't have a scout or scout book to check. A good crystal maker can see what the circuit specs are to put the original crystals on frequency and then easily make new ones to match for the new frequency. ICM has a web page, I don't have it bookmarked here. Alta Vista will find it quickly. Ask for International Crystal Manufacturing. 73, Jerry, K0CQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us Mon Sep 18 20:59:24 2000 From: SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us (Sherrill WATKINS) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:59:24 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) Message-ID: Bob: You raise a good point. However, to be completely accurate, there never has been or never was a 110, 115 or 117 vac standard in the United States. The standard was always 120/240 VAC for single phase service. In my owners manual for the Ten Tec model 280 power supply, on page one, Ten Tec makes reference to 115 or 230 vac utility supply voltage. This is INCORRECT as these were never adopted as standard utility supply voltages in the U.S. - Sherrill W. k4own >>> Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX 09/18/00 11:05AM >>> I find that most 12V radios typically don't work reliably on 12V. They really require about 13 to 15 volts. This is kinda like the days when we referred to the household voltage of 110 or 220 volts. It hasn't been 110 or 220 volts in years. Or like car batteries considered to be 12V. The charging values run 13.4 to 14.6 depending on temperature. Many radios use internal regulators that output 10V. These require some 1.4 volts min above the regulated value, some more, to properly operate. Considering even a small IR drop from the battery to the radio plus 1.4 volts one can see that 12V is not adequate. 73 Bob K4TAX seweber@netnitco.net wrote: > > My attempts to operate my Delta II on a 12V deep cycle battery have > produced reports of distorted audio, which could only be eliminated by > reducing the output to below 40 watts. I have been advised that the rig > was probably FMing. This radio is only happy when fed with at least 13 > volts, and comes into it's own at the magic 13.8vdc level. > > My experiences only, your mileage may vary, close cover before striking, > don't run with scissors, and any other disclaimer that might apply! > > 73 de KD9BO Steve > > Steve Weber > > I want to know how God created the world. > I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, > in the spectrum of this or that element. > I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details. > > --Albert Einstein-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Mon Sep 18 22:34:56 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:34:56 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > I talked to Ten Tec and Paul Clinton of their service dept says the Omni > 6+ has NO RELAYS in it! Is that true? i thought my problem may be a TR > relay in the rig. R there none in the Omni 6+?? U know, it might just be > my old antenna coax switch. u think that's a possibility? as i > mentioned previously, > my receiver seems to drop out. i hit the dit or dah paddle of my keyer > and the RX pops back up. Could that be a bad ant. coax switch maybe? > that would be great. i had the switch in line and have that rx drop out > on all bands. now i'm going straight to the antenna. perhaps i won't > have that problem now. i'm hoping. > > But a few of u folks said the omni 6+ had relays. does it? or doesn't > it? now i'm confused. > Bob, Paul may be correct about an Omni VI+. And if that's what you have, I'd be inclined to listen to him. I have two Omni VI's: one upgraded to a plus with option 3; the other a straight VI. My manual's Low Pass Filter Board Schematic (81592), Figure 4-4, page 4-7 (May 1992), shows relays for the lowpass filters (2 relays for each filter) and a transmit relay feeding the LP filter output to the antenna. Maybe the removal of the relays was a feature of the VI+ that is not part of the option 3 upgrade. 73 and good luck, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Mon Sep 18 22:46:53 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:46:53 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > > CORRECTION, guys! I talked to Paul again and it looks as tho there ARE > relays in the Omni 6+. Just not a TR relay. the relays r band specific > and so far every band i can work has the problem. but i'm trying to c now > if it was my antenna switch. this can drive ya NUTS! > Don't discount the coax connectors on the feedlines connecting to the antenna switch, either. I had a situation with one of my old A3 triband beams where, when operating QRP, SWR would rise to over 3:1. If I hammered it with 100 watts for a couple of dits, it was good for another day or so. In refurbishing the antenna and replacing the 3-year-old lightning damaged element segment (3/8" burned hole in the aluminum), I found a very bad connection where a trap coil lead is screwed down and attached to the inner element segment. I cleaned the pertinent areas of the coil lead, element segment, and screw and reset and sealed the joint. It's been working like a charm since; in fact, working better than the A3S I bought sometime later as antenna #2. So, check everything in between the switch and your radio: coax jumpers, SWR/Wattmeter, tuner, etc. 73, dale, kg5u > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From basalop@gte.net Mon Sep 18 23:40:50 2000 From: basalop@gte.net (Jim Berry) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:40:50 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Operating voltage(s) In-Reply-To: <39C62F48.5D32@infoave.net> Message-ID: <000101c021c1$7e90d6c0$c9030f3f@default> Hello Folks, This is true. That just is probably the problem. I do have an Icom 751A that will run just fine off a 12 volt car battery. That does not mean they all will. I read someplace, once, that Icom made a production change. Many people could not understand why the radio did not work when they turned off the charging source. I do not know what serial number that would have been with. What this means is that some of the 751A's will probably not work correct at a mere 12 volts. I would check with Ten-Tec and ask. One might even be able to make a mod. I do have an old 751. Want to bet it will not work at 12 volts? Works fine at 13.8 though. 73 Jim K7SLI Bob K4TAX said: > I find that most 12V radios typically don't work reliably > on 12V. They > really require about 13 to 15 volts. > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Tue Sep 19 00:13:21 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:13:21 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice References: Message-ID: <39C6A191.3B1@infoave.net> Not true! My Omni VI+ has a relay that goes "click" when in CW and is first keyed. It the drops out at the end of the keying sequence. It's the keying relay for external stuff. This is K1 on the Control Board. Also there is K1 on the DC input board. It's used to provide +12V switched to the 9MHz & ALC boards and to the Control Board. Also there is K1 throught K13 on the Low Pass Filter board. This could be the source of your problems. Any particular band or all of them? And there is K1 on the BPF/Front End Board. Paul must have mis-understood the question. He knows these radios inside and out, top to bottom. 73 Bob K4TAX Bob Mauro - PeopleNet wrote: > > I talked to Ten Tec and Paul Clinton of their service dept says the Omni > 6+ has NO RELAYS in it! Is that true? i thought my problem may be a TR > relay in the rig. R there none in the Omni 6+?? U know, it might just be > my old antenna coax switch. u think that's a possibility? as i > mentioned previously, > my receiver seems to drop out. i hit the dit or dah paddle of my keyer > and the RX pops back up. Could that be a bad ant. coax switch maybe? > that would be great. i had the switch in line and have that rx drop out > on all bands. now i'm going straight to the antenna. perhaps i won't > have that problem now. i'm hoping. > > But a few of u folks said the omni 6+ had relays. does it? or doesn't > it? now i'm confused. > > Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G > -------------------------------------------------------------- > My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro > My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html > My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html > -------------------------------------------------------------- > If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kh7m@hsa-kauai.net Tue Sep 19 02:13:53 2000 From: kh7m@hsa-kauai.net (Jim Reid) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:13:53 -1000 Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice Message-ID: <001b01c021d6$e5977440$aa7ad818@gw400> > I talked to Ten Tec and Paul Clinton of their service dept > says the Omni 6+ has NO RELAYS in it! Is that true? i > thought my problem may be a TR relay in the rig. Look in your Omni VI+ manual, page 4-3. If that relay, K1 right in the middle of that diagram, which is switching the Antenna connector, at the top left of the diagram, to the "RX INPUT" middle diagram, left side, is not a T/R relay, would sure like to know that the TT folks believe it to be!! Further, the text discussion about this circuit board, page 4-2, at the top of the right hand column of text reads, "On receive, K1 is open...... And further down that same column of text, last paragraph begins, " During transmit, relay K1 is closed,......." If that relay tends to be a bit "sticky", that is not fully open on rcv, part of the input signal from the antenna is not going to go to the rcvr input; but rather get lost, or shunted off into all that low pass xmit filter stuff on the right side of the diagram, not good! On transmit, or PTT push down, that relay gets a hard "close" command, shorting the antenna to the transmit output circuitry, and presumably the diodes in series with the rcvr input are biased off. On key up, or PTT off, that relay should full open. May not be your problem spot, but that is, for sure, what I would call a T/R relay, hi. Sure is behaving as a T/R relay anyway, hi. 73, Jim, KH7M Very pleased Omni VI+ user. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From bigmack@nortexinfo.net Tue Sep 19 02:27:00 2000 From: bigmack@nortexinfo.net (Robert McAdams) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:27:00 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice In-Reply-To: <001b01c021d6$e5977440$aa7ad818@gw400> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20000918202558.02894d60@mail.nortexinfo.net> I think this was all just a mis-communication.. Good luck in your diagnostics, and please let us know what the fix was in the end... 73's Robert KA5PPX At 08:13 PM 9/18/00, Jim Reid wrote: > > I talked to Ten Tec and Paul Clinton of their service dept > > says the Omni 6+ has NO RELAYS in it! Is that true? i > > thought my problem may be a TR relay in the rig. > >Look in your Omni VI+ manual, page 4-3. If that relay, K1 >right in the middle of that diagram, which is switching the >Antenna connector, at the top left of the diagram, to >the "RX INPUT" middle diagram, left side, is not a T/R >relay, would sure like to know that the TT folks believe >it to be!! > >Further, the text discussion about this circuit board, >page 4-2, at the top of the right hand column of text >reads, "On receive, K1 is open...... And further down >that same column of text, last paragraph begins, >" During transmit, relay K1 is closed,......." > >If that relay tends to be a bit "sticky", that is not fully >open on rcv, part of the input signal from the antenna >is not going to go to the rcvr input; but rather get lost, >or shunted off into all that low pass xmit filter stuff on >the right side of the diagram, not good! > >On transmit, or PTT push down, that relay gets a hard >"close" command, shorting the antenna to the transmit >output circuitry, and presumably the diodes in series >with the rcvr input are biased off. On key up, or PTT off, >that relay should full open. > >May not be your problem spot, but that is, for sure, what >I would call a T/R relay, hi. > >Sure is behaving as a T/R relay anyway, hi. > >73, Jim, KH7M >Very pleased Omni VI+ user. > > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec >Submissions: tentec@contesting.com >Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Tom Branch" Greetings, I'm looking into adding a Tentec amplifier to my shack. I love my Omni 6 and 229 tuner--I'm hoping the Centurion is as good as I really like full QSK! When I read the ARRL review, I noted they had arcing during tune-up on the low bands. Would love to hear your opinions. What kind of price can I expect to pay on the used market? TU es 73 de Tom, K4NR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ve7asr@islandnet.com Tue Sep 19 05:46:42 2000 From: ve7asr@islandnet.com (Rick Williams) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:46:42 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] FS: Palomar Tuner - tuner Message-ID: <000601c021f4$a1997720$2e6aafc7@ricks> Not long ago several Pegasus owners were looking for Palomar Tuner-Tuners. The local swap has one for sale from an estate and it looks like it's in very good condition. They were asking $50 for it! If you're interested the contact is Jack - VE7WE and he can be reached at: jpmooney@access.victoria.bc.ca 73, Rick VE7ASR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Tue Sep 19 12:04:45 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 07:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] my omni 6+ problem - need ur advice In-Reply-To: <00e901c021ac$a4dfdd40$aa7ad818@gw400> Message-ID: Jim, Tnx. I c what u mean. Anyway, i took my antenna coax switch out of the line yesterday and went right to the antenna. Used the rig all day on all the bands i have antennas for. it worked fine. i'm hoping the problem was caused by my very old ant. switch and NOT the Omni. Tests continue today. Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Jim Reid wrote: > > I talked to Ten Tec and Paul Clinton of their service dept > > says the Omni 6+ has NO RELAYS in it! Is that true? i > > thought my problem may be a TR relay in the rig. > > Look in your Omni VI+ manual, page 4-3. If that relay, K1 > right in the middle of that diagram, which is switching the > Antenna connector, at the top left of the diagram, to > the "RX INPUT" middle diagram, left side, is not a T/R > relay, would sure like to know that the TT folks believe > it to be!! > > Further, the text discussion about this circuit board, > page 4-2, at the top of the right hand column of text > reads, "On receive, K1 is open...... And further down > that same column of text, last paragraph begins, > " During transmit, relay K1 is closed,......." > > If that relay tends to be a bit "sticky", that is not fully > open on rcv, part of the input signal from the antenna > is not going to go to the rcvr input; but rather get lost, > or shunted off into all that low pass xmit filter stuff on > the right side of the diagram, not good! > > On transmit, or PTT push down, that relay gets a hard > "close" command, shorting the antenna to the transmit > output circuitry, and presumably the diodes in series > with the rcvr input are biased off. On key up, or PTT off, > that relay should full open. > > May not be your problem spot, but that is, for sure, what > I would call a T/R relay, hi. > > Sure is behaving as a T/R relay anyway, hi. > > 73, Jim, KH7M > Very pleased Omni VI+ user. > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Bill_Ames@hyperion.com Tue Sep 19 17:40:59 2000 From: Bill_Ames@hyperion.com (Bill_Ames@hyperion.com) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:40:59 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] JUPITER HF Transceiver Message-ID: <8525695F.005BFC98.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com> What's the tuning rate and display resolution and is the first production run big enough so I can wait to hear impressions from the first buyers before I decide to buy? Bill Ames KB1LG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From sales@tentec.com Tue Sep 19 21:02:10 2000 From: sales@tentec.com (Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:02:10 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten-Tec used/demo list Sept. 20, 2000 Message-ID: <4.1.20000919153640.00a5a340@208.55.110.21> Current as of September 20, 2000 The following equipment is available as used equipment direct from Ten-Tec. 30 day warranty, 10 day trial period, shipping is additional. Exception: used linears warrantied 30 days except for final tubes which carry no warranty. Used items often sell quickly. Please make sure we have the item in stock before sending payment. Transceivers: 546-D Omni-D $450 550 Pegasus $715 555 Scout $395 555NB Scout w/noise blanker $412.50 562 Omni-V $1225 563 Omni-VI $1750 563-OPT1 Omni-VI upgraded with DSP chips $1825 563-OPT3 Omni-VI upgraded to Omni-VI Plus $2075 580 Delta $475 585 Paragon $995 Other items: 255 matching PS/spkr Omni A/C/D $90 260 matching PS/spkr Corsair I $90 416 Titan II amp $2400 700C hand mic $17.50 1209A 2-to-6 meter transverter $120 The following equipment is available as demo gear and carries a 1 year parts and labor warranty, 30 day trial period. Exception: the 416 Titan II carries a three year parts and labor warranty. Shipping is additional. We have several RX-320 demo units in at present - until they're sold we'll be selling them at $260 each (normally $280). RX-320 PC Radio $260 291 antenna tuner $84.55 296 Scout mobile bracket $18.53 302 Pegasus remote encoder/keypad $132.05 416 Titan II amp $2840.50 550 Pegasus $850.25 555 Scout $540.55 555NB Scout w/noise blanker $564.30 564 Omni VI Plus $2326.50 701 hand mic $21.60 705 desk mic $84.55 801 160m Scout module $32.30 802 80m " $32.30 803 40m " $32.30 804 30m " $32.30 805 20m " $32.30 806 17m " $32.30 807 15m " $32.30 809 10m " $32.30 937 Scout PS $75.05 1208A 20-to-6 meter transverter $151.00 1209A 2-to-6 meter transverter $151.00 1260A 6m FM transceiver $280.25 "New, old stock" inventory available, shipping is additional: 4012 12 meter mobile antenna $15.00 Scott Robbins, W4PA ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ten-Tec, Inc., 1185 Dolly Parton Pkwy, Sevierville, TN 37862 USA Contact Mon-Fri Eastern: Office/Tech (865) 453-7172 9 am-5 pm. Repair (865) 428-0364 8-4. Sales (800) 833-7373 9 am-5:30 pm. Fax (865) 428-4483 24 hrs. Visit us at --->--->---> Please note: E-mail for sales and general product info only. We presently do not offer repair, parts, or kit building tech support by electronic mail, please telephone (865) 428-0364 or (865) 453-7172. Ten-Tec manufactures amateur radio equipment, military and com- mercial use HF radio equipment, custom aluminum and steel enclosures and has an on-premises, fully equipped tool and die facility supplying metal and plastic injection mold industries. Potential tool and die, custom enclosure or communications electronics customer? Contact us with your needs. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From khopper@uchicago.edu Wed Sep 20 17:20:52 2000 From: khopper@uchicago.edu (Ken Hopper) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:20:52 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] re: JUPITER HF Transceiver Message-ID: <39C8E3E4.796EE2B4@uchicago.edu> See my webpage for the only public info. Also have a HIGH RES picture of the Jupiter shown at Dayton. http://home.uchicago.edu/~khopper/jupiter.html dit dit de Ken N9VV I have no association with Ten-Tec, this is my hobby! -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jeff@n9avg.org Thu Sep 21 16:03:15 2000 From: jeff@n9avg.org (Jeff Davis) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:03:15 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] more hamfest Message-ID: <20000921110315.A24448@n9avg.org> Thanks to the help of several on this list the XYL and i have booked a cabin in Gatlinburg and will be enjoying a long weekend there. Of course we plan to be at TenTec on Saturday. I will likely have a handheld with me. What frequency will you folks be monitoring while there? With spare time perhaps some of us could hook up pre-hamfest for a cup of joe? vy 73, -- jeff davis, n9avg -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From 70511.3041@compuserve.com Thu Sep 21 17:30:27 2000 From: 70511.3041@compuserve.com (Wilford D. Lindsey) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:30:27 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Price for Ten-Tec Triton 544/252G P/S? Message-ID: <200009211230_MC2-B42C-60A1@compuserve.com> Gang: Can anyone help with some prices? I have a Ten-Tec Triton 544 (digital display) transceiver with the matching Ten-Tec 252G power supply and ammeter. Appearance of everything is at least 9 on a scale of ten. Includes original Ten-Tec documentation. This rig includes the WARC bands and goes from QRP to QRO levels, set by a front panel control. What would be a fair market price for this setup? I see that Ten-Tec has an *analog* Triton (540) for $325.00 without the power supply. Thanks in advance for any assistance you might offer. 72/73, --W.D. (Doc) Lindsey DSBF PO Box 6028 Bismarck, ND 58506 (Shipping = DSBF, 2020 Lovett Ave, Bismarck, ND, 58504) E-Mail = K0EVZ@arrl.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From dufferjames@hotmail.com Thu Sep 21 17:37:47 2000 From: dufferjames@hotmail.com (James Duffer) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:37:47 CDT Subject: [TenTec] Price for Ten-Tec Triton 544/252G P/S? Message-ID: Hi Doc, I too have this model, but mine does not have the WARC Bands. Do you have a factory modified or have you modified it to include the WARC bands. Would like to include the WARC bands on this otherwise fine transceiver. 73 >From: "Wilford D. Lindsey" <70511.3041@compuserve.com> >To: QRP-L Discussion Group >CC: "W.D.(Doc)Lindsey/K0EVZ" <70511.3041@compuserve.com>, Ten Tec >Relector >Subject: [TenTec] Price for Ten-Tec Triton 544/252G P/S? >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:30:27 -0400 > > >Gang: > >Can anyone help with some prices? I have a Ten-Tec Triton 544 (digital >display) transceiver with the matching Ten-Tec 252G power supply and >ammeter. Appearance of everything is at least 9 on a scale of ten. >Includes original Ten-Tec documentation. >This rig includes the WARC bands and goes from QRP to QRO levels, set by a >front panel control. > >What would be a fair market price for this setup? I see that Ten-Tec has >an *analog* Triton (540) for $325.00 without the power supply. Thanks in >advance for any assistance you might offer. > >72/73, >--W.D. (Doc) Lindsey > DSBF > PO Box 6028 > Bismarck, ND 58506 > (Shipping = DSBF, 2020 Lovett Ave, Bismarck, ND, 58504) > E-Mail = K0EVZ@arrl.net > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec >Submissions: tentec@contesting.com >Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From res043pa@gte.net Thu Sep 21 19:17:04 2000 From: res043pa@gte.net (CDF) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:17:04 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] HF Station For Sale $350.00 Message-ID: <001b01c023f8$29d72100$daf3183f@eypwndog> I'm tired of messing with the HF stuff so I'm going back to playing with the sats. My small HF station Is up for sale. It Includes a T-T Argosy-II (digital readout) covers 80, 40, 30, 20, 15 & 10 meters U/LSB, CW. Has the 2.4 kHz 8 pole SSB and 500 Hz 8 pole CW filters installed and the dual position AF filter installed. Comes with the model 225 power supply,Amplified hand mic, Ext. speaker and a Vectronics VEC-645 antenna tuner. Allso included is a Cliff Dweller II inside or out 80-10 meter Slinkey type antenna and connecting cabels. Electrical condition: 100%. Works great. 5 to 50 watts out. Cosmetic condition: Very Good to Excellent on the transceiver. Some scratches on the PSU. PTO rebuilt about 1 year ago. Comes with the manuals for radio, power supply, tuner and antenna. Price: $350.00 and you pay 20.00 for shipping as it will be shipped in two boxes. Reply by private e-mail, please. 73 Charlie WA8CUL ****************************************************** The Truth Is Out There. This Is Who WE Are ****************************************************** WA8CUL QRP-L #1752 Charles D. Feigley Sr SOC #394 1516 Toledo St. TT Argosy II @ 5 W Holiday, Florida 34690 EL88JN -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu Sat Sep 16 22:44:29 2000 From: csturner@falcon.csc.calpoly.edu (Clark Savage Turner) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TenTec] Corsair and INRAD In-Reply-To: <009301c02021$fe8f7d00$e7dc7cce@hp-customer> Message-ID: Just a quick note, I talked to George up at INRAD, he had incorrect information about the Corsairs and didn't list the 9 MHz filters as available for them. Of course, the Corsair I provides a slot for the main 9 MHz filter (had the 4 pole filter standard) where you can stick a 10 pole 2.4 or an 8 pole 2.8 INRAD filter right out of the box. For the Corsair II, you need to pull the little board with the main 9 MHz filter (the model 220) and solder in an INRAD filter that fits right into the board holes. I have a 2.8 that I put into my Corsair II and am very happy with it. In addition, I spoke with George about cascading a second filter in that first IF for the Corsairs. He has a generic filter switchboard that would allow, say, a CW filter at the 9 MHz 1st IF ahead of the bank of filters in the 2nd IF at 6.3 MHz. On occasion, a second CW filter would seem to be called for in my Corsair II (it would be similar to the NAR position on the OMNI V and VI). I am going to try it out here and see how it works for me. It would involve mounting a small board and filter somewhere in there (plenty of room), some soldering of switch wires to a switch somewhere (or wiring to the mode switch, or to the regular CW filter switch to switch in a pair of CW filters instead of one....) It could be a Ten Tec ladder filter or an INRAD lattice filter, of course. This brings up a question about some old Argosy mod I saw in a 1989 QRP Quarterly... something about a filter in the BFO line that reduces overall noise in there. This mod was suggested for the Corsair, too, and was based on the KVG 9 MHz filters as I recall. Anyone do this to their Corsair? Clark WA3JPG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From res043pa@gte.net Thu Sep 21 21:30:16 2000 From: res043pa@gte.net (CDF) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:30:16 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] RE HF rig for sale Message-ID: <002001c0240a$c1abab60$b86a1b3f@eypwndog> The radio has been spoken for. Thanks to all who replied 73 Charlie ****************************************************** The Truth Is Out There. This Is Who WE Are ****************************************************** WA8CUL QRP-L #1752 Charles D. Feigley Sr SOC #394 1516 Toledo St. TT Argosy II @ 5 W Holiday, Florida 34690 EL88JN -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mauro@idt.net Thu Sep 21 22:13:52 2000 From: mauro@idt.net (Bob Mauro - PeopleNet) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] Scout for sale Message-ID: TEN-TEC SCOUT, with noise blanker, mobile mount, 10, 20, 30 meter modules, 10 & 20 meter Pro-Am mobile whips. $450. Bob, KZ2G, 516-579-4043, mauro@idt.net, see rig at http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html. You pay shipping UPS Ground insured of $20. Bob Mauro, Mauro@Idt.Net Amateur Radio Station KZ2G -------------------------------------------------------------- My DisAbility Website http://idt.net/~mauro My Amateur Radio Website http://idt.net/~mauro/kz2g.html My Levittown, NY Website http://idt.net/~mauro/levittwn.html -------------------------------------------------------------- If my IDT mail bounces, send it to kz2g@altavista.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mrwood@attglobal.net Fri Sep 22 20:04:45 2000 From: mrwood@attglobal.net (Michael Wood) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:04:45 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] [Ten Tec] Not going to the TT hamfest? You can still sell your rig! Message-ID: <39CB750D.16478.4F46F37@localhost> I can't make it to the Upcoming Fest either, but if you have considered selling your good working order TenTec ssb rig (w/digital display, WARC a plus) in the 300-500$ price range, please contact me: Mike K2CSJ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From JBeamer@PanAmSat.com Fri Sep 22 20:18:36 2000 From: JBeamer@PanAmSat.com (Beamer, Jay) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:18:36 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec SSB User's Net Message-ID: <51D11BFF2C20D41199D60050DA1C5873C839@LBHEXCH2> Happy Friday to All. Just the weekly reminder for the net this Sunday at 14.267 +/- at 3 pm pacific local, 4 pm mountain local, 5 pm central local, 6 pm eastern local, or 2200 UTC. Will/KC5QWE and myself will be standing by for you call. have a nice weekend! Jay/KM6VX Torrance, Ca. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Clark, Mark E [Palarco]" , !h , !h Hello Has anyone used a Hercules amp with an icom at-500 automatic tuner? I'm thinking about getting one if it will work. 73 Mark N3IRJ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Tom Branch" Greetings, Still playing with the idea of a new amp, but thought I might look at keeping my dependable AL-811H. Has anybody used a Tentec radio (Omni 6) with the QSK-5 from Ameritron? Looks like I could add full-QSK that I desire for a small investment. 73 de Tom, K4NR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From royanjoy@ncn.net Sat Sep 23 18:38:43 2000 From: royanjoy@ncn.net (Roy Koeppe) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:38:43 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Re: QSK-5 with T-T gear Message-ID: <004501c02585$1f1f58c0$0d2448ce@h648s> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Branch" To: Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 11:42 PM Subject: [TenTec] Ameritron QSK-5 > > Greetings, > > Still playing with the idea of a new amp, but thought I might look at > keeping my dependable AL-811H. Has anybody used a Tentec radio (Omni 6) > with the QSK-5 from Ameritron? Looks like I could add full-QSK that I > desire for a small investment. > > 73 de Tom, K4NR Tom, Lew, K1NDV tried for a year to make T-T gear work with the QSK-5. He never could get the sequencing correct. He now uses the QSK-1500 unit instead, with great success. 73 and let us know if you try it please, Roy K6XK -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jeff@n9avg.org Sat Sep 23 19:50:26 2000 From: jeff@n9avg.org (Jeff Davis) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:50:26 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Hamfest Message-ID: <20000923145026.A8256@n9avg.org> I received a few replies I thought I'd share. Looks like the TT Hamfest talk-in will be on 146.94 repeater. I'll monitor that repeater while in the area on Thursday and Friday before the Fest in case anyone wants to get together for dinner or just a cup of coffee and to talk 'radio'. Looking forward to seeing you there! Vy 73, -- jeff davis, n9avg -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w2fca@qsl.net Sat Sep 23 20:23:31 2000 From: w2fca@qsl.net (Frank Ayers) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 15:23:31 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Titan 10 meter mod Message-ID: <01c02593$c2481ce0$09c01a26@default> Hi all A while back I got a Titan amp which works fine. Never tried it on 10 meters until today for the SAC contest. Found it puts out zero. Being that the guy who owned it before only used it on 75 I suspect that the ten meter mod was never done. I looked through the manual but it's not there. According to the QST article it's fairly quick. Anybody have the steps they could email me? Yes, I know I could call the factory Monday but that doesn't do me much good now. I could also figure it out but that also cuts into my contesting. Thanks Frank W2FCA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w2fca@qsl.net Sat Sep 23 21:08:05 2000 From: w2fca@qsl.net (Frank Ayers) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:08:05 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Titan 10 meter mod Message-ID: <01c02599$fc561da0$59581a26@default> Got the instructions - thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: Frank Ayers To: TenTec Date: Saturday, September 23, 2000 3:22 PM Subject: [TenTec] Titan 10 meter mod > >Hi all > >A while back I got a Titan amp which works fine. Never tried it on 10 meters >until today for the SAC contest. Found it puts out zero. Being that the guy >who owned it before only used it on 75 I suspect that the ten meter mod was >never done. I looked through the manual but it's not there. According to the >QST article it's fairly quick. Anybody have the steps they could email me? >Yes, I know I could call the factory Monday but that doesn't do me much good >now. I could also figure it out but that also cuts into my contesting. >Thanks > >Frank >W2FCA > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec >Submissions: tentec@contesting.com >Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Sat Sep 23 23:00:56 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:00:56 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] WTB QSK-1500 Message-ID: <20000923.180102.-1046077.0.gctotten@juno.com> Does anyone have a working QSK-1500 they would sell? I have never seen one at a swap. have a nice weekend Jerry K8JRO K gctotten@juno.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From tacquire@earthlink.net Sun Sep 24 00:29:27 2000 From: tacquire@earthlink.net (Dan Cox) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:29:27 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] 1320 Output Trouble Message-ID: <002501c025b6$1e12d480$20c2fc9e@dan> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0257B.710C23C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, new to the list but I recently finished my 1320. Receiver works = well but am having difficulty with transmitter. Output is only about = 130 milliwatts as registered on my oak hills research wattmeter. I have = desoldered the three toroids and rewound them making even neater tighter = turns than before but no difference(I actually lost about 20 milliatts = by doing that hihi). There are 9 turns on each one as counted from = inside including the last wrap that gets soldered. Any ideas? Thanks Dan Cox ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0257B.710C23C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello, new to the list but I recently finished my = 1320. =20 Receiver works well but am having difficulty with transmitter.  = Output is=20 only about 130 milliwatts as registered on my oak hills research=20 wattmeter.  I have desoldered the three toroids and rewound them = making=20 even neater tighter turns than before but no difference(I actually lost = about 20=20 milliatts by doing that hihi).  There are 9 turns on each one = as=20 counted from inside including the  last wrap that gets soldered. = Any=20 ideas?
 
Thanks
Dan Cox
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0257B.710C23C0-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jmerril1@twcny.rr.com Sun Sep 24 01:32:03 2000 From: jmerril1@twcny.rr.com (John L Merrill) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 20:32:03 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Pegasus GUI Message-ID: <006b01c025be$dcdf2780$0300a8c0@jmerril1> Anyone, including N4PY ,had any thoughts about changing the look of the S-meter? -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From vsantis@javanet.com Sun Sep 24 16:09:55 2000 From: vsantis@javanet.com (Vincent A. Santis) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 11:09:55 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] 238 Tuner question Message-ID: <000001c02639$7fd60e20$222296d1@default> Hi, My 238 tuner inductor has a section of its travel which which seems rough to me. It is as if it's rubbing on something or the roller goes off the winding. I also notice an inconsistency in the settings, as much as 2/3 dial marks. Beinglegally blind I am reluctant to open it up. Are these characteristics customary in the tuner? Thanks Vince Santis, WB1DQN Winsted, CT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From timscot@lightspeed.net Sun Sep 24 20:52:43 2000 From: timscot@lightspeed.net (timscot) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:52:43 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] the Pegasus is back Message-ID: <000801c02661$02491100$a309fea9@dad> >From Tim Scott (KQ6UF) timscot@lightspeed.net Hey everyone .... well the Pegasus is back and on the air again, TT did their job well and the radio is acting correctly. TT replaced the finals, drivers and dut a 10 ohm resistor between pins 4 and 6 of IC U-1 Hmmmmm no explanation given, none required but its nice to have my radio back and working, hope to check in this afternoon on the net. 73 all have fun de KQ6UF .... Tim -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w3nr@vol.com Sun Sep 24 21:55:10 2000 From: w3nr@vol.com (Ed W3NR) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:55:10 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] NB for OmniA Message-ID: <001d01c02669$bb6bce40$23ab2ad1@edn4pk> Noise Blanker for OmniA..... Anyone have one of these that you are willing to part with at a decent price ?? Thanks...73 Ed W3NR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From timscot@lightspeed.net Sun Sep 24 23:59:54 2000 From: timscot@lightspeed.net (timscot) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 15:59:54 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] GOOD Hearing everyone today Message-ID: <001901c0267b$2830e5e0$a309fea9@dad> To: everyone From: KQ6UF (Tim) hey nice hearing everyone today, thanks for the query Will, good hearing the group and being able to check in using the new Pegasus. just for your info, I was using the Peg barefoot, into my Cushcraft A3S. have fun fellas/gals.... I am off having fun. 73 de Tim -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jkoppi@pclink.com Mon Sep 25 01:37:50 2000 From: jkoppi@pclink.com (Joseph Koppi) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:37:50 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] 238 Tuner question References: <000001c02639$7fd60e20$222296d1@default> Message-ID: <002901c02689$11961f40$cf020bce@jkoppi> Vince: I am experiencing a similar problem with my Model 229 tuner. It turns out that the contact wheel has a worn or slightly oversized center hole. As a result, the wheel does not fit snuggly on the tension bar that holds it against the coil. It wobbles on the tension bar and, at times, binds on the coil. In my tuner (and I took off the cover to observe this), the ill-fitting wheel binds on the end of the coil with the wider turns, and when it does, it jumps off of the winding, requiring the tuner to be opened and reset. Ten-Tec service suggested using Deoxit to clean and lubricate the wheel and tension bar. They also told me that the bar and wheel could be purchased apart from the entire coil if I wanted to replace just those parts. Or, you can buy a new coil for $62. I'm going to try the cleaning and lubrication route first. Hope this helps. Good luck. Joe, WØSU ----- Original Message ----- From: Vincent A. Santis To: Tentec Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2000 10:09 AM Subject: [TenTec] 238 Tuner question > > Hi, > My 238 tuner inductor has a section of its travel which which seems rough to > me. It is as if it's rubbing on something or the roller goes off the > winding. I also notice an inconsistency in the settings, as much as 2/3 dial > marks. Beinglegally blind I am reluctant to open it up. > Are these characteristics customary in the tuner? > > Thanks > > Vince Santis, WB1DQN > Winsted, CT > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From semann@tcia.net Mon Sep 25 02:10:10 2000 From: semann@tcia.net (Steven Mann) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:10:10 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] 238 Tuner question References: <000001c02639$7fd60e20$222296d1@default> <002901c02689$11961f40$cf020bce@jkoppi> Message-ID: <39CEA5F2.97110533@tcia.net> Interesting! I have a homemade tuner with a Johnson rotary inductor. It was having some of the problems you guys are experiencing. I forget where I read it, but there was an ongoing discussion about cleaning rotary inductors. Someone suggested spraying it with tuner cleaner. I did and it solved the squeaks and slippage. It also moves much smoother now throughout the range. Steve, N4EY Joseph Koppi wrote: > Vince: I am experiencing a similar problem with my Model 229 tuner. It > turns out that the contact wheel has a worn or slightly oversized center > hole. As a result, the wheel does not fit snuggly on the tension bar that > holds it against the coil. It wobbles on the tension bar and, at times, > binds on the coil. In my tuner (and I took off the cover to observe this), > the ill-fitting wheel binds on the end of the coil with the wider turns, and > when it does, it jumps off of the winding, requiring the tuner to be opened > and reset. > > Ten-Tec service suggested using Deoxit to clean and lubricate the wheel and > tension bar. They also told me that the bar and wheel could be purchased > apart from the entire coil if I wanted to replace just those parts. Or, you > can buy a new coil for $62. > > I'm going to try the cleaning and lubrication route first. > > Joe, WØSU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Vincent A. Santis > Subject: [TenTec] 238 Tuner question > > > Hi, > > My 238 tuner inductor has a section of its travel which which seems rough > to > > me. It is as if it's rubbing on something or the roller goes off the > > winding. > Vince Santis, WB1DQN > > Winsted, CT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From sales@tentec.com Fri Sep 22 21:59:16 2000 From: sales@tentec.com (Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:59:16 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] TT hamfest talk-in Message-ID: <4.1.20000922165723.00a65a70@208.55.110.21> Though not mentioned on our web site (gotta fix that) - the talk-in frequency for the Ten-Tec hamfest on October 7 will be the 146.94 repeater (-600 kHz offset). 146.73 also sees quite a bit of local activity here. 73 Scott Robbins, W4PA ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ten-Tec, Inc., 1185 Dolly Parton Pkwy, Sevierville, TN 37862 USA Contact Mon-Fri Eastern: Office/Tech (865) 453-7172 9 am-5 pm. Repair (865) 428-0364 8-4. Sales (800) 833-7373 9 am-5:30 pm. Fax (865) 428-4483 24 hrs. Visit us at --->--->---> Please note: E-mail for sales and general product info only. We presently do not offer repair, parts, or kit building tech support by electronic mail, please telephone (865) 428-0364 or (865) 453-7172. Ten-Tec manufactures amateur radio equipment, military and com- mercial use HF radio equipment, custom aluminum and steel enclosures and has an on-premises, fully equipped tool and die facility supplying metal and plastic injection mold industries. Potential tool and die, custom enclosure or communications electronics customer? Contact us with your needs. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mark@microenh.com Mon Sep 25 13:38:25 2000 From: mark@microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:38:25 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Hamfest accomodations Message-ID: <001301c026ed$a0e5e720$c0037fd8@microenh> I've procrastinated, but finally decided I would like to attend the TT Hamfest. I'll need a room for one on Friday night. Does anyone have any idea how hard it will be to find a room? Does anyone have a room they want to share or a recommended place to make a reservation? 73, Mark -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mark@microenh.com Mon Sep 25 13:35:41 2000 From: mark@microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:35:41 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Omni V Problem Message-ID: <001201c026ed$a009df00$c0037fd8@microenh> Yesterday may have been the first time I put on headphones while using my relatively new to me Omni V. I am hearing loud pops in the headphones while transmitting. I had the monitor pot set to minimum, although I also noticed the pops when trying to listen to my TX audio. I am using PTT mode as opposed to VOX. The pops don't seem to be related to pushing or releasing PTT. They sometimes occured with voice peaks, but not always. I specifically asked people at the other end, and they said they did not hear the pops in my transmitted audio. I listened through the headphones for a long time without transmitting and never heard the pops during receive. I am using a Heil Goldline mic and had the gain adjusted to where the ALC LED lit only rarely on voice peaks. The speech processor was off. Any ideas? 73, Mark, N8ME -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From badger@vbe.com Mon Sep 25 14:24:16 2000 From: badger@vbe.com (Michael Melland) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:24:16 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Omni V and Timewave 59+ Hookup ? Message-ID: <39CF5200.D2D3956F@vbe.com> I recently purchased a Timewave 59+ DSP unit to try out with my Omni V. I haven't received the DSP yet (arrives UPS today), but I did download the 59+ manual from Timewave. The manual states that to mute the 59+ while transmitting you need a closure to ground suggested to be from a PTT line control. The Omni V has a PTT hookup in the rear but the Omni V manual states it only works in SSB... not CW. I guess that I could also use the rear pannel relay line to control the 59+ .... Anyone here run/ever ran a Timewave DSP with your Omni V ? What mute method did you use ? Thanks, Mike Melland, W9WIS -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From benk8dit@serv.net Mon Sep 25 14:51:32 2000 From: benk8dit@serv.net (ben) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 06:51:32 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Runaway Omni VI+ Message-ID: <005b01c026f7$b7573fe0$9145cfcf@net> I checked into the TT users net to report happy progress on my new tower and beam, when i discovered that my frequency readout was not where i would be heard by anyone on the net. as i spoke the readout was scanning downward, changing frequency with every voice peak. the xcvr stopped scanning when i stopped talking. I had the centurion on and so i put it in stby and tried it with just the xcvr. I found that it would only do this if the amp was on line. I ran out and tightened all my coax connectors and tried to think of what could be happening. By the time i sat down and looked over the equipment i noticed that my 301 remote tuning knob was sitting on the rotor control. The tuning device in the remote knob was picking up rf off the rotor control only when the amp was on and when i moved the remote knob, it didnt happen. in fact i set the knob atop the amp itself and there was no problem. i checked back into the net and was relieved that this riddle was solved. i find the omni vI plus/centurion combo which incidentally are stacked one on the other, a fb station. i also use the 229 tuner with them when im on one of my wire antennas. What other rig has a remote tuning knob, so that i can tune the bands while lying on the couch adjoining my station? This feature emphasises the extra class i feel having made ham radio my choice as a hobby and Ten Tec my choice of rig. de ben k8dit -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From geraldj@ames.net Mon Sep 25 14:21:45 2000 From: geraldj@ames.net (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:21:45 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Omni V and Timewave 59+ Hookup ? References: <39CF5200.D2D3956F@vbe.com> Message-ID: <39CF5169.6733@ames.net> I've rarely found it truly necessary to mute my 59+. Yes, it picks up a tiny bit of RF sometimes and so grumbles in the background but it doesn't get obnoxious. I haven't used it much with my Corsair II and don't have a mute line connected at all. 73, Jerry, K0CQ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wc7m@vcn.com Mon Sep 25 15:36:56 2000 From: wc7m@vcn.com (W7CW Jay Ostrem) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:36:56 +0100 Subject: [TenTec] Omni V and Timewave 59+ Hookup ? In-Reply-To: <39CF5200.D2D3956F@vbe.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000925153656.0088b810@vcn.com> Hi Mike, I use the 599+. I quit using the mute line, and never really missed it. The only side effect is on CW, where the audio delay throught the unit screws up your keying. (Delayed sidetone). The delay is not a problem until 35wpm for me, but you eventually compensate for it. I discovered this quite by accident when I forgot to hook up the line after FD one year. I thought I had "dain bramage" until I figured it out, but by that time I was compensating for it. Another side effect is that the sidetone is now changing depending on your setting of the unit. I find this a plus, as it helps your to set the controls properly (center freq, etc.) I'm a fan of the 599+. I've owned a few DSP's, and this was the only one that beat the built in DSP of my 6+. I've used it on my Paragon and Omni V, and have been happy. I refer to my Omni V with the 599+ as a "Poor Boy 6+" It works. A close friend had both the 59+ and the 599+, he found he was using the 59+ more often than the other. Close comparison put the 599+ on top, but the 59+ was more convenient to use. Your mileage may vary, Jay W7CW At 08:24 AM 9/25/00 -0500, Michael Melland wrote: >Anyone here run/ever ran a Timewave DSP with your Omni V ? What mute >method did you use ? > >Thanks, > >Mike Melland, W9WIS > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Davenbarstow@aol.com Mon Sep 25 17:01:41 2000 From: Davenbarstow@aol.com (Davenbarstow@aol.com) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:01:41 EDT Subject: [TenTec] H F . Ten Tec Gear For Sale Message-ID: <13.b2d15eb.2700d0e5@aol.com> I have decided to thin out on my Amateur Radio Gear. I have 2 Ten Tec Transceivers. I am going to sell one and keep the other. So here goes, I have the Omni 6 Plus with 5 optional filters and the 257 Voice Board. 3 filters are in the 6 mgz position , and 2 in the 9 mhz Position. I am asking $2200.00 for this Ten Tec Transceiver. As in new condition, and works the same. I have Original Carton and Manual. I have the Ten Tec Paragon II with the 3 Optional Filters, and the 257 Voice Board. I am asking $1550.00 for this Transceiver. As in new condition and works the same. Also have the Shipping Carton and Manual. I have the Ten Tec Hercules II with the 9420 Power Supply, with all shipping Cartons and Manuals. This one is a 9 1/2 on a scale of 1 to 10. I am asking $1500.00 for this one. It has the 10 meter mod already installed, I have all new shipping Cartons and Manuals. I also have the Ten Tec Model 425 Titan Amp For sale.( just back from Ten Tec completely gone through at a cost of $403.00 Plus) This is really a nice one . It puts out 1500 watts on all bands with about 45 to 50 watts drive. I have all new shipping Cartons and Manuals. The Titan also has the 10 meter Mod installed. I am asking $1750.00 for the Titan Amp. I also have 2 ---705 Desk Mics for sale , $50.00 Each. I have Two 961 Power Supplys for sale, $175.00 Each. Also have the 236 Cable and the 264 cable. I would prefer that these cables go with the Hercules II. I also have the RF Applications P-2000A , RF Power and VSWR Meter. It was recently purchased for $299.00. I am asking $225.00 for this. I also have the Nye Viking R F Power Monitor, Model RFM -003. I purchased it new and it still works and looks the same. I am not sure what i am going to ask for this Meter. I do prefer to sell them after I have sold the Hercules II and The Titan amps. All my gear is in Like new condition. The reason I am thinning out is because I have found other interests. and of course I think I have to much gear. As I said in the beginning, I am going to keep one Transceiver and One 705 Desk Mic Period.....The Prices above are plus shipping and Insurance. There is more to life than Ham Radio( Although I do Love It) So if you see something that catches your eye , Let me know. I also have a lot of spare parts(new) Such as end caps, Bulbs and Fuses for the Herc, and Titan. I also have a new Top and Bottom for the Original Paragon My Name is David E. Barlow/ WA6CQJ E-Mail is Davenbarstow@aol.com Telephone 760-256-3359 Thank you for reading this ad, Have a really great day to you and your family and do something good for your selfs . 73 S Dave / WA6CQJ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From grix@teleport.com Mon Sep 25 19:24:40 2000 From: grix@teleport.com (Lee Grimes) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:24:40 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Corsair low output on 17 mtrs Message-ID: <001601c0271d$df9e4400$5f391ad8@rjiredff> Hi All...I recently acquired a nice Corsair 1, everything works fine except for 17 meters. I get low output, about 15 to 18 watts, and the receive is pretty dead. Audio is there but the signals are way down. Tried different antennas, no change. I haven't popped the top yet to look inside, thot I would query the list here first for any tips or "what to do firsts". Any help appreciated! es thanx...Lee K7INU -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From tacquire@earthlink.net Mon Sep 25 19:43:05 2000 From: tacquire@earthlink.net (Dan) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:43:05 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] TenTec Service References: <001301c026ed$a0e5e720$c0037fd8@microenh> Message-ID: <39CF9CB9.2E9109D@earthlink.net> Well gotta applaud TT's service in their kit department. It appears as though the final in my 1320 is wide open reading infinite values in all tests. So, I called them up and they are sending me another final free of charge! I was pleasantly surprised to say the least. With any luck this will cure it. I did the test in the book where you short the base to the collector with the final out and the power from the driver is passed right on through and does register on my wattmeter fine so it's gotta be this final that's bad. Had one hell of a time getting it out though. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jmlowman@ix.netcom.com Tue Sep 26 01:26:10 2000 From: jmlowman@ix.netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:26:10 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Subscription Problems Message-ID: <39CFED22.536F2A2@ix.netcom.com> Recently I've had a few list members report that they have suddenly dropped off the Ten-Tec list; some after years of being a member. If you find this happening to you, please let me know right away. A message to owner-tentec@contesting.com or to jmlowman@ix.netcom.com will get my attention right away. The only reasons that I would remove a member is if: --the member's mailbox is full --the member's e-mail address bounces as unknown --messages are undeliverable to the member for more than one day Also, if you find that you can receive messages from the list but are unable to post to it, please be sure that you have HTML disabled before sendling mail to the list. Thus far, I've found it necessary to drop only two members from this list for reasons of conduct. There's no reason to apologize for any perceived misconduct on your part, because if you fall into this category, you'll be warned beforehand. Thanks for continuing to make this a very worthwhile list. 73 de Jim - AD6CW -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w8keb@1st.net Tue Sep 26 03:23:01 2000 From: w8keb@1st.net (Ken & LInda Burrough) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:23:01 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] For Sale: VFO 242 & Argosy 525 Message-ID: <001a01c02760$c4d7e200$9f06f0d1@default> Hi All I am trying to make room for a new Ten-Tec and find I don't use these items so they are for sale. Remote VFO 242 for the 540/544. Ten-Tec serviced this VFO on 1 Oct 99 and the following was done. PTO Rebuilt Dial Cord Replaced Control Board replaced Xtals for 29.0 and 29.5 added The VFO is very clean and works as it should on my 544. The price is $150.00 firm ( work at Ten-Tec was $147.05 ) plus shipping. Pictures via e-mail. The front panel looks like new and the rest of the cabinet is at least 9.0 or better. Argosy 525, PS 225, Model 1125 Magnetic Circuit Breaker, 215 mic, Model 223 Noise Blanker, Model 226 Crystal Calibrator. I made two contacts with the 525, one on phone and one on cw. NO CW FILTERS. Power out is 50/5 watts. I received a bad audio report with the 215 but a good report when I switched to my EV 638. This unit is not very good looking but can be cleaned up. I gave a CB'er $150.00 for it and that is the price plus shipping. He found out it would not go on 11 meters. Pictures via e-mail. I feel this 525 is worth the price. I will be at the Ten-Tec Hamfest and can bring the above and save shipping. Home Phone 740-968-3067 Tnx & 73 from The Buckeye State, Flushing, Ohio. W8KEB KENNETH E. BURROUGH---(KEN) Ex: NE0C--KC0WN--N6EVC--KA2HJY USAF Ret w8keb@1st.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From tacquire@earthlink.net Tue Sep 26 03:27:04 2000 From: tacquire@earthlink.net (Dan) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:27:04 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Timewave PK-12 packet controller for sale References: <001a01c02760$c4d7e200$9f06f0d1@default> Message-ID: <39D00978.130FE0DE@earthlink.net> It's new in the box, I used it all of once or twice just to try some packet listening. Price is 100 dollars . You can read all about the specs on www.timewave.com Email if you are interested. Thanks and check out my positive feedback on www.ebay.com as electrohermit Dan -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From frank.duvall@bsco.com Tue Sep 26 03:35:56 2000 From: frank.duvall@bsco.com (Frank Duvall) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:35:56 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] FS: 509, 515, S-30 Message-ID: <000401c02762$802a2da0$7f16650a@bh.bsco.com> FOR SALE: Argonaut 509 - $290 Argonaut 515 - $400 Signalizer S-30 - $125 All in excellent electrical and cosmetic condition. Original manuals included. You ship. Digital photos available. Thank you for reading. 73, Frank K9PYO -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w8keb@1st.net Tue Sep 26 04:16:45 2000 From: w8keb@1st.net (Ken & LInda Burrough) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:16:45 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Argosy 525 is Sold Message-ID: <000c01c02768$4689ec60$0f0af0d1@default> Hi Again The Argosy 525 is sold, tnx to all that inquired. W8KEB KENNETH E. BURROUGH---(KEN) Ex: NE0C--KC0WN--N6EVC--KA2HJY USAF Ret w8keb@1st.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wa0roi@arrl.net Tue Sep 26 05:10:45 2000 From: wa0roi@arrl.net (Chuck Brudtkuhl) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:10:45 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Op voltages, probably the battery, not the radio? Message-ID: <39D021C5.E2D8F93E@uswest.net> >My attempts to operate my Delta II on a 12V deep cycle battery have >produced reports of distorted audio, which could only be eliminated by >reducing the output to below 40 watts. I have been advised that the rig >was probably FMing. This radio is only happy when fed with at least 13 >volts, and comes into it's own at the magic 13.8vdc level. This thread may be dead, but I'm catching up on my reading. I just want to raise the awareness that all batteries are not created equally. This scenario fits a historic scenario of mine perfectly. I tried running 100W sideband off a Telco battery string. I was using a total of four strands of #6 stranded copper for the 15ft run .. plenty of capacity there for 100w. I also had slight FMing on SSB. It turns out that the batteries themselves, designed for steady current loads, responded to the near-instantaneous transition from 1/2 amp to 20 amp peak .. by dropping the voltage about 2 volts during that transition period. They'd take a steady state 20A load no problem (which is what they're designed for) .. but the transition period is what was causing the FMing .. and since SSB is continuous transition periods .... hence it may not be the radio ... likely is NOT the radio. You can test the radio by running it on a REGULATED supply at low voltage. May have been the battery. I'm no battery expert, but I've never forgotten this real life situation. I always wanted to try it sometime with some hefty caps across the line to help "fill" the transition periods .. but never did. 73 de Chuck -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w5yr@att.net Tue Sep 26 05:24:31 2000 From: w5yr@att.net (George, W5YR) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:24:31 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Op voltages, probably the battery, not the radio? References: <39D021C5.E2D8F93E@uswest.net> Message-ID: <39D024FF.AD1CC8EB@att.net> Sure sounds like the effects of resistance either in the cells themselves or in the external circuit. From your description, I would suspect the cells. Interesting . . . we tend to think of batteries as "perfect" d-c sources and forget that they have internal resistance just like other sources. -- 72/73, George W5YR - the Yellow Rose of Texas Fairview, TX 30 mi NE Dallas in Collin county QRP-L 1373 Amateur Radio W5YR, in the 55th year and it just keeps getting better! Icom IC-756 PRO #02121 (9/00) Kachina #91900556 (12/99) IC-765 (6/90) Chuck Brudtkuhl wrote: > > >My attempts to operate my Delta II on a 12V deep cycle > battery have > >produced reports of distorted audio, which could only be > eliminated by > >reducing the output to below 40 watts. I have been advised > that the rig > >was probably FMing. This radio is only happy when fed with > at least 13 > >volts, and comes into it's own at the magic 13.8vdc level. > > This thread may be dead, but I'm catching up on my reading. > I just want to raise the awareness that all batteries are > not created equally. This scenario fits a historic scenario > of mine perfectly. > > I tried running 100W sideband off a Telco battery string. I > was using a total of four strands of #6 stranded copper for > the 15ft run .. plenty of capacity there for 100w. I also > had slight FMing on SSB. It turns out that the batteries > themselves, designed for steady current loads, responded to > the near-instantaneous transition from 1/2 amp to 20 amp > peak .. by dropping the voltage about 2 volts during that > transition period. They'd take a steady state 20A load no > problem (which is what they're designed for) .. but the > transition period is what was causing the FMing .. and since > SSB is continuous transition periods .... hence it may not > be the radio ... likely is NOT the radio. You can test the > radio by running it on a REGULATED supply at low voltage. > May have been the battery. > > I'm no battery expert, but I've never forgotten this real > life situation. I always wanted to try it sometime with > some hefty caps across the line to help "fill" the > transition periods .. but never did. > > 73 de Chuck -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From dslosty@pipeline.com Tue Sep 26 11:57:54 2000 From: dslosty@pipeline.com (dslosty) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:57:54 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Erratic readout - Trition IV digital Message-ID: <39D08132.1A53@pipeline.com> Just bought a Triton IV digital (model 544) at a local hamfest. The rig had a couple of minor problems - now fixed and it's working F.B. except that the frequency display jumps around while transmitting. This happens even while using a dummy load. However, when the RF drive is turned all the way down, the display is stable. Either some RF is getting thru to the display circuitry via an internal path or perhaps some voltage is dropping while the transmitter is fully loaded. It's only a minor annoyance but I'd like to solve it. Has anyone run into this? BTW, I'll probably sell this rig. I bought it for the challenge of getting it working. If anyone is interested please email. 73, Doug/WA1TUT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From des@iolky.com Tue Sep 26 13:18:12 2000 From: des@iolky.com (David E. Shelton) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:18:12 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Unoffical Webpage Message-ID: Someone please refresh my memory on the URL for the unoffical website. Tnx es 73, Des, W4DES -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From rbdrake@erols.com Tue Sep 26 14:23:51 2000 From: rbdrake@erols.com (Richard B Drake) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:23:51 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Unoffical Webpage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I suggest you add this to your, "Favorites", so you won't lose it again. http://www.qsl.net/tentec/ . If you are using IE this is very simple to do. Once you get to the page, click "Favorites/Add to favorites". Chose the folder you want to put it in and click OK. It's done. This is simple to do with Netscape also, although I don't recall the exact names that appear on the menus. --- 73, Rich - W3ZJ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-tentec@contesting.com > [mailto:owner-tentec@contesting.com]On > Behalf Of David E. Shelton > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 8:18 AM > To: Tentec@Contesting. Com > Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Unoffical Webpage > > > > Someone please refresh my memory on the URL for the > unoffical website. > > Tnx es 73, > Des, W4DES > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From N4NT@chartertn.net Tue Sep 26 14:35:36 2000 From: N4NT@chartertn.net (Michael O. Hyder) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:35:36 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Erratic readout - Trition IV digital References: <39D08132.1A53@pipeline.com> Message-ID: <001901c027be$a73aec20$26180bd0@chartertn.net> That sounds more like your power supply isn't up to snuff than RF getting into the display. Regards, Mike N4NT@chartertn.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "dslosty" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 6:57 AM Subject: [TenTec] Erratic readout - Trition IV digital | | Just bought a Triton IV digital (model 544) at a local hamfest. | The rig had a couple of minor problems - now fixed and it's working | F.B. except that the frequency display jumps around while transmitting. | This happens even while using a dummy load. However, when the RF drive | is turned all the way down, the display is stable. Either some RF is | getting | thru to the display circuitry via an internal path or perhaps some | voltage | is dropping while the transmitter is fully loaded. It's only a minor | annoyance but I'd like to solve it. | | Has anyone run into this? | | BTW, I'll probably sell this rig. I bought it for the challenge of | getting | it working. If anyone is interested please email. | | 73, | Doug/WA1TUT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From 70511.3041@compuserve.com Tue Sep 26 16:15:25 2000 From: 70511.3041@compuserve.com (Wilford D. Lindsey) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:15:25 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] FS--Ten-Tec Triton 544 rig/252G PS Message-ID: <200009261115_MC2-B4BD-660@compuserve.com> Gang: Have decided to part with my excellent Ten-Tec Triton 544 transceiver with the matching Ten-Tec 252G power supply. This is an extraordinary rig, with a terrific receiver. This is the digital version. Covers 80-10 Metres, but not the WARC bands. CW and SSB. Has the narrow CW filtre and the Noise Blanker. Output power can be easily adjusted from the front panel from ZERO watts out to QRO levels. The rig is excellent for QRP operation and chasing FOXes. Both pieces of equipment are very clean in appearance. They operate flawlessly. Total for both pieces, shipped insured UPS to the Lower 48 = only $475.00. 72/73, --W.D. (Doc) Lindsey DSBF PO Box 6028 Bismarck, ND 58506 (Shipping = DSBF, 2020 Lovett Ave, Bismarck, ND, 58504) E-Mail = K0EVZ@arrl.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jmlowman@ix.netcom.com Tue Sep 26 19:48:32 2000 From: jmlowman@ix.netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:48:32 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Unoffical Webpage References: Message-ID: <39D0EF80.3D831FE9@ix.netcom.com> Try: http://www.qsl.net/tentec/ "David E. Shelton" wrote: > > Someone please refresh my memory on the URL for the unoffical website. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From pepperb@gov.on.ca Tue Sep 26 14:12:17 2000 From: pepperb@gov.on.ca (Brien Pepperdine) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] replacement finals for Argosy series Message-ID: I am in need of information regarding possible replacement substitute finals for the Argosy radios. The originals were Motorola MRF 477, a pair, which apparently are now pretty much 'unobtainium' in status. Ten-Tec told me some months back that the last sets they were able to get for service work were very expensive. Drivers are MRF 476 I believe, and are available. These PA transistors were 13 volts supply, 50 watt approx. - I did look them up for tech specs in the ARRL Handbook. I have a dead Argosy IID that was given to me some time back with apparently dead finals, and now an additional rig, an Argosy Analog, has come into play as well here that has poor drive levels (2 watts) and low high level output (20 watts?), demonstrates noise in receive when the switch is set to high power and at low and high power the heat sink is warming up even when in recieve. The heat sink should run pretty much stone cold in receive, and only warm slightly if at all in high power transmit. Obviously something weird there. I would really like to see both of these radios restored to service, and hope there can be a suitable substitute found to apply to use. I have a friend who is an excellent technician who can help me apply any practical modifications in regard to transistor type (mounting variations) and possible slight changes in biasing etc. Thanks a lot for any recommendations. Brien Pepperdine Amateur Radio Station VE3VAW Toronto, Ontario Canada ARCI QRP #8773 - NORCAL QRP "ZOMBIE" -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Tue Sep 26 17:04:52 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:04:52 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Op voltages, probably the battery, not the radio? References: <39D021C5.E2D8F93E@uswest.net> Message-ID: <39D0C924.7AAE@infoave.net> Good points and a lesson to be learned by all. All batteries are not created equal. 73 Bob K4TAX Chuck Brudtkuhl wrote: > > >My attempts to operate my Delta II on a 12V deep cycle > battery have > >produced reports of distorted audio, which could only be > eliminated by > >reducing the output to below 40 watts. I have been advised > that the rig > >was probably FMing. This radio is only happy when fed with > at least 13 > >volts, and comes into it's own at the magic 13.8vdc level. > > This thread may be dead, but I'm catching up on my reading. > I just want to raise the awareness that all batteries are > not created equally. This scenario fits a historic scenario > of mine perfectly. > > I tried running 100W sideband off a Telco battery string. I > was using a total of four strands of #6 stranded copper for > the 15ft run .. plenty of capacity there for 100w. I also > had slight FMing on SSB. It turns out that the batteries > themselves, designed for steady current loads, responded to > the near-instantaneous transition from 1/2 amp to 20 amp > peak .. by dropping the voltage about 2 volts during that > transition period. They'd take a steady state 20A load no > problem (which is what they're designed for) .. but the > transition period is what was causing the FMing .. and since > SSB is continuous transition periods .... hence it may not > be the radio ... likely is NOT the radio. You can test the > radio by running it on a REGULATED supply at low voltage. > May have been the battery. > > I'm no battery expert, but I've never forgotten this real > life situation. I always wanted to try it sometime with > some hefty caps across the line to help "fill" the > transition periods .. but never did. > > 73 de Chuck -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wgoveia@indiana.edu Tue Sep 26 20:22:28 2000 From: wgoveia@indiana.edu (Goveia, William P) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:22:28 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Unofficial Webpage Message-ID: <4F1C26C2EB4CD211BD2300805F657B5C0675300C@newjersey.exchange.indiana.edu> Actually with Netscape, Click "Bookmarks" and select "Add Bookmark" (or press CTRL-D).... 72/73, William Patrick Goveia, Network Operations Specialist Education Technology Services, School of Education Indiana University, Bloomington wgoveia@indiana.edu KB9RBW > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard B Drake [mailto:rbdrake@erols.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 8:24 AM > To: tentec@contesting.com > Subject: RE: [TenTec] Ten Tec Unoffical Webpage > > > > I suggest you add this to your, "Favorites", so you won't lose it > again. http://www.qsl.net/tentec/ . If you are using IE this is > very simple to do. Once you get to the page, click "Favorites/Add > to favorites". Chose the folder you want to put it in and click > OK. It's done. This is simple to do with Netscape also, although I > don't recall the exact names that appear on the menus. > > --- > 73, Rich - W3ZJ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > [mailto:owner-tentec@contesting.com]On > > Behalf Of David E. Shelton > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 8:18 AM > > To: Tentec@Contesting. Com > > Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Unoffical Webpage > > > > > > > > Someone please refresh my memory on the URL for the > > unoffical website. > > > > Tnx es 73, > > Des, W4DES > > > > -- > > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > > > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wb9iog@revealed.net Tue Sep 26 21:53:04 2000 From: wb9iog@revealed.net (Mike Souhrada) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:53:04 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Help Triton II Documentation Audio Board Message-ID: <39D10CB0.307517A7@revealed.net> Now that I'm back on the list I have a need for some info. I have the manuals for the Triton I & Triton II (that's a combined manual), and the manual for the Model 540 which I understood was a Triton II. There are many differences, so my assumption was in error. I've been wrassling with the II unit for some time. It needed a new PTO badly as it was REALLY froze up. Once that was repaired ,it tracks beautifully now, with a rebuild kit. However, the audio quit after a short time. Then I started looking closer to what the previous owner had attempted! Gad something of a mess on many of the boards. So one thing at a time. I am getting audio out but at a low level. The board is pictured in the Triton I&II manual page 3-5 and is characterized by a "U" shaped heat sink on the inner side with two ss devices imbedded in aluminum blocks. Those have been replaced by two devices marked 274 , in a TO220 case. I just discovered that and will see If I can find those referenced. The board in the II has no identification on the top. I found some ID on the bottom which is either 90186 or 98106 depending on how you read it. Same upside down - really clever eh Ten Tec!? The model 540 uses an integrated chip for audio and may or may not be the same so I can't use the documentation from that. But, that's the documentation received from Ten Tec in the Triton I & II manual. Thanks a lot TT! Would be a BIG help if someone has the two sheets for the board I have 90186 or 98106 with the "U" shaped device and output transistors identified in original form. There is a black and green "thingie" between them and I have no idea what it is or what it supposed to do w/o the proper docs. Tnx for reading this was a long one.If you could scan those sheets you'd save me lots of time. Even the pins are difficult to identify what is what? Mike Le Claire, Iowa -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From wb4wen@yahoo.com Tue Sep 26 22:26:54 2000 From: wb4wen@yahoo.com (Buchanan Bill) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TenTec] MRF-477 replacements Message-ID: <20000926212654.19554.qmail@web3001.mail.yahoo.com> Not sure what is used as replacement for the 477 now, I used MRF-497 matched set, but these are also hard to find anymore....Might look at what is used in the HR2510 series of 10m rig now for replacements..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From KF6ZZ@aol.com Tue Sep 26 23:49:46 2000 From: KF6ZZ@aol.com (KF6ZZ@aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:49:46 EDT Subject: [TenTec] MRF-477 replacements Message-ID: <50.b4fa8f8.2702820a@aol.com> Perhaps the MRF-455 used in the PA of the Scout would be useful in this application. RF parts in San Marcos CA has the MRF-455 for sale. However it might be prudent to ask the boys at TT if the substitution would work. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From W8QA@aol.com Wed Sep 27 13:02:40 2000 From: W8QA@aol.com (W8QA@aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:02:40 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Re: TenTec Amateur Radio Digest V3 #279 Message-ID: <70.3605b21.27033be0@aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: owner-tentec@contesting.com [mailto:owner-tentec@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David E. Shelton Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 8:18 AM To: Tentec@Contesting. Com Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Unoffical Webpage Someone please refresh my memory on the URL for the unoffical website. Tnx es 73, Des, W4DES >> David: The unofficial Ten-Tec Website's URL is: http://www.oakland.edu/~prvalko/tentec.htm Hope this info helps. Best DX and Very 73, John, W8QA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kk4iz@mindspring.com Wed Sep 27 13:15:42 2000 From: kk4iz@mindspring.com (Warren Bryant) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:15:42 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] TenTec Unofficial Index Message-ID: <39D1E4EE.149348E2@mindspring.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0BD3AE82411A070CFDFC0B99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This should get you to the Unofficial Ten-Tec page 73"s KK4IZ http://www.qsl.net/tentec/mainind.htm -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ --------------0BD3AE82411A070CFDFC0B99 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="mainind.htm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="mainind.htm" Content-Base: "http://www.qsl.net/tentec/mainind.htm" Content-Location: "http://www.qsl.net/tentec/mainind.htm" TenTec Unofficial Index


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--------------0BD3AE82411A070CFDFC0B99-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From prvalko@oakland.edu Wed Sep 27 16:00:16 2000 From: prvalko@oakland.edu (Paul R. Valko) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [TenTec] Re: TenTec Amateur Radio Digest V3 #279 In-Reply-To: <70.3605b21.27033be0@aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 W8QA@aol.com wrote: > The unofficial Ten-Tec Website's URL is: > http://www.oakland.edu/~prvalko/tentec.htm Actually... it's not. That's just the url of my Virtual Ten*Tec Museum. It's pictures and information from my friends and my personal collection of the older Ten*Tec stuff. 73! =paul= W8KC Collector of Ten*Tecs and other fine plastics. Visit the Virtual Ten*Tec Museum at: -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Davenbarstow@aol.com Wed Sep 27 16:57:08 2000 From: Davenbarstow@aol.com (Davenbarstow@aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:57:08 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Titan:FOR SALE Message-ID: <9e.a29230d.270372d4@aol.com> I listed the Ten Tec Titan for sale on 9/25/00 for the ammount of $1750.00. I called Ten Tec and spoke with Scott and Stan,They said they sell the Titan for $1550.00, if they had one, They also said they were lucky to see one used Titan in a years time. Very rare for some one to trade in there Titan they said. My Titan is in Perfect condition, Cosmetically and the way it performs. 1500 Watts out put on all bands , with 45 watts drive. As I said in my Original add I just paid $403.00 for repairs on this Titan . They went through it completely. The Technician said the tubes were performing at 100 %. Instead of asking $1750.00, I am going to ask $1550.00 for it , plus shipping and handling. This Titan is as I said in very good condition. I take very good care of my Gear. I am the 2nd owner, The 1st owner purchased it from AES before Ten Tec went Factory Direct.. The Serial Number is 425-01091. You can call Scott or Stan with the serial number and I am sure they will be able to to tell you all about it if you give them the serial number. John Maples was the Technician that worked on it, and I would imagine Paul Clinton gave it the final inspestion. Any way they said it was in perfect condition, and I told them to make any up dates that it would require or needed. They said they also did this. I have all new shipping cartons and the Original Manual. I can E Mail Pictures of the Titan and the Power suppy if any one should be interested. Thank you for reading this ad. My Name is David E. Barlow /WA6CQJ 36842 Lompoc Ave. Barstow, Ca. 92311 760-256-3359 E Mail Address is Davenbarstow@aol.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kf3dg@epix.net Thu Sep 28 15:41:53 2000 From: kf3dg@epix.net (PAUL REAMS) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:41:53 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] LIKE TO BUT A CENTURION Message-ID: <39D358B1.E47665FE@epix.net> ANYONE HAVE A CENTURION THEY'D LIKE TO SELL? EMAIL PRICE AND COND. TO KF3DG@EPIX.NET (((73))) PAUL -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From hamblin@mirusintl.com Wed Sep 27 17:24:07 2000 From: hamblin@mirusintl.com (Thomas M. Hamblin, P.Eng.) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:24:07 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] PM3 Receiver Offset Message-ID: Glenn Butzlaff, W9EK wrote: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 23:51:40 -0700 From: "Glenn Butzlaff" Subject: [TenTec] PM3 Receive Offset? Is there a way to adjust the receive offset on a PM3? I picked up a = Power Mite at a swapfest today (sans manual) and noticed that there is = not much in the way of offset. Any info greatly appreciated. TIA. Glenn Butzlaff, WE9K Dear Glenn, The PM3 did not have any deliberate offset for receive. You will have to add it yourself. Now you will have to debate whether to leave the unit unmodified, or whether to get right in there! If you want to get right in there, contact me. I had dual RIT pots in mine. Regards, Tom Hamblin, sine HN -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Wed Sep 27 18:07:39 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:07:39 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] PM3 Receiver Offset Message-ID: <20000927.130748.-957955.6.gctotten@juno.com> Hi Gang, If I remember correctly. My PM3 always had a little offset caused by the loading of the transmitter and / or external resistance in the power supply or lantern battery I used. I made a lot of contacts with that little rig and only had a problem with offset on rare occasions. My advice, if you want offset, buy a rig with it already installed. PM3s are getting rare. It would be a shame to modify one. 73 Jerry K8JRO -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From JBeamer@PanAmSat.com Wed Sep 27 22:15:32 2000 From: JBeamer@PanAmSat.com (JBeamer@PanAmSat.com) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:15:32 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Bash Message-ID: <51D11BFF2C20D41199D60050DA1C5873C855@LBHEXCH2> Hello All. Guess who else got lucky and is going to be there next weekend? ME!! I can't wait to see and talk to all you Ten Tec crazies!! One more thing. I spoke to Will/KC5QWE and Ron/WD5FUN last night and we're thinking about a get-together for Ten Tec reflector people and Tec Tec User's Net people after the festivities at Ten Tec. Like maybe around 5-5:30 pm. We're thinking somewhere local where a reservation isn't needed. Maybe a pizza joint. If you're gonna be there and would like to attend, let me know in the next couple days. Also for you locals, maybe you can help out in finding a place for this and giving the place a heads up. If we can't find anywhere to go, we can always go over to Stan's and hang out in his backyard. We could probably even help him get those tools out of his tree (inside joke)!!!!!!!!! Jay/KM6VX Torrance, Ca. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Toneyfam@proaxis.com Wed Sep 27 23:01:25 2000 From: Toneyfam@proaxis.com (Mike Toney) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:01:25 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Model 544... Message-ID: <00bf01c028ce$96041d80$bac46ac6@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C02893.CE9A5BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, Here we go again! I have come across a used 544/262g with = Blanker,etc. It came from an estate and needs to go back to Tentec to = be gone through. Updated, etc. I would use it mostly on CW, but I think = it would be a good backup rig also. I know there have been inquiries = recently about what this stuff is worth. I must have deleted the recent = responses to the questions as what these units are going for. Could = someone please refresh my memory. It will definitely go back to Tentec = for a tune up and the seller is willing to take that into consideration = on the asking price. I had to go to the unofficial Tentec site to see = what it even looked like I haven't operated one in over 20 years. Also, = what do I need to look for as far as items that need to be tweaked or = corrected by the factory? We used the 540/544's on field day back in the 70's and they worked = great. I think they are a great addition to any shack...Thanks for your = help..........73......Mike/W7CNA ------=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C02893.CE9A5BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, Here we go again!  I have = come across a=20 used 544/262g with Blanker,etc.  It came from an estate and needs = to go=20 back to Tentec to be gone through. Updated, etc.  I would use it = mostly on=20 CW, but I think it would be a good backup rig also.  I know there = have been=20 inquiries recently about what this stuff is worth.  I must have = deleted the=20 recent responses to the questions as what these units are going = for.  Could=20 someone please refresh my memory.  It will definitely go back to = Tentec for=20 a tune up and the seller is willing to take that into consideration on = the=20 asking price.  I had to go to the unofficial Tentec site to see = what it=20 even looked like I haven't operated one in over 20 years. Also, what do = I need=20 to look for as far as items that need to be tweaked or corrected by the=20 factory?
We used the = 540/544's on field day=20 back in the 70's and they worked great.  I think they are a great = addition=20 to any shack...Thanks for your help..........73......Mike/W7CNA
 
------=_NextPart_000_00BC_01C02893.CE9A5BE0-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mhawk@in-touch.net Wed Sep 27 23:25:28 2000 From: mhawk@in-touch.net (Mike Hawk) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:25:28 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] For Sale: Corsair ll, P.S., VFO and Kent Paddle Message-ID: <001c01c028d1$d7fc83a0$294fa03f@mikehawk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C028B0.4FB522C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My beautiful Corsair ll with all the filters, power supply and remote = VFO (263G) is still available. All are in excellent condition. Front = panels show no wear at all, sides and tops have only the smallest = mars/scratches. Have most of the original boxes and manuals. I'm getting = ready to put my second kid in college and need the funds! Priced has = been reduced to $850. Not ready to sell seperately yet. Also have a real = nice Kent dual paddle for $100 in original box. Michael Hawk W8TG ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C028B0.4FB522C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My beautiful Corsair ll with all the = filters, power=20 supply and remote VFO (263G) is still available. All are in excellent = condition.=20 Front panels show no wear at all, sides and tops have only the smallest=20 mars/scratches. Have most of the original boxes and manuals. I'm getting = ready=20 to put my second kid in college and need the funds! Priced has been = reduced to=20 $850. Not ready to sell seperately yet. Also have a real nice Kent dual = paddle=20 for $100 in original box.  Michael Hawk =20 W8TG
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C028B0.4FB522C0-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n1jm@arrl.net Wed Sep 27 23:45:59 2000 From: n1jm@arrl.net (John L Merrill) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:45:59 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Pegasus GUI/ S-Meter Message-ID: <001c01c028d4$b5738b00$0300a8c0@jmerril1> Carl: Just wondering if it's possible to make it look like an OmniVI S-meter or similar. John N1JM -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kk4iz@mindspring.com Thu Sep 28 04:06:21 2000 From: kk4iz@mindspring.com (Warren Bryant) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:06:21 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Jupiter Message Message-ID: <39D2B5AC.E50C74A1@mindspring.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7594C84DFCDD44F24503785F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://tentec.com/Jupitermsg.htm -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ --------------7594C84DFCDD44F24503785F Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name="Jupitermsg.htm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Jupitermsg.htm" Content-Base: "http://tentec.com/Jupitermsg.htm" Content-Location: "http://tentec.com/Jupitermsg.htm" = = = Jupiter Message = =
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Dear Friends: It is with great anticipation that we have aw= aited = the release of our new JUPITER IF-DSP HF amateur radio tran= sceiver. = We have had a tremendous amount of interest shown in this n= ew radio = since it was announced at the Dayton Hamvention=99 in May 2= 000.

As many of you are aware, there has been a worldwide shorta= ge of = electrical components available to manufacturers stretching= back = more than a year. Delivery times from suppliers for quantit= ies of = components have increased. We have made efforts to overcome= this = problem and continue building at the pace our business requ= ires = for both our amateur radio and commercial/military lines. <= br>
The reality, however, is that hoping that parts will arrive= in time = to meet anticipated delivery dates is just that: hope. We h= ave learned = this week that parts crucial to building the new transceive= r will = not be available to us as anticipated and we have no choice= but = to delay the initial manufacturing date of the new rig. Our= best = estimate for manufacture and delivery of the Jupiter is the= 3rd = or 4th week of November. Again, this is assuming no further= parts = procurement delays to begin building the new radio.

We are still taking orders for the initial production run a= t this = time. We anticipate that before the delivery date the first= production = run is going to be a sell out. You can place an order on a = major = credit card and, as is our policy, no charge will be made t= o your = credit card until the day we ship the radio to you.

We'll see many of you for our first hamfest here at the Ten= -Tec = factory in Sevierville on Saturday, October 7. We will have= two = operational Jupiter transceivers on site that will be in us= e on = the HF bands during the hamfest.

Thanks for your interest in Ten-Tec and 73 from all of us. =



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--------------7594C84DFCDD44F24503785F-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From cshyde@yahoo.com Thu Sep 28 13:46:31 2000 From: cshyde@yahoo.com (Carl Hyde) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 05:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [TenTec] Jupiter Message Message-ID: <20000928124631.10722.qmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> I placed my order yesterday! --- Warren Bryant wrote: > > http://tentec.com/Jupitermsg.htm > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Click here for Free Video!! > http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ > >
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JUPITER

September 25, 2000

Dear Friends: It is with great anticipation that we have awaited the release of our new JUPITER IF-DSP HF amateur radio transceiver. We have had a tremendous amount of interest shown in this new radio since it was announced at the Dayton Hamvention™ in May 2000.

As many of you are aware, there has been a worldwide shortage of electrical components available to manufacturers stretching back more than a year. Delivery times from suppliers for quantities of components have increased. We have made efforts to overcome this problem and continue building at the pace our business requires for both our amateur radio and commercial/military lines.

The reality, however, is that hoping that parts will arrive in time to meet anticipated delivery dates is just that: hope. We have learned this week that parts crucial to building the new transceiver will not be available to us as anticipated and we have no choice but to delay the initial manufacturing date of the new rig. Our best estimate for manufacture and delivery of the Jupiter is the 3rd or 4th week of November. Again, this is assuming no further parts procurement delays to begin building the new radio.

We are still taking orders for the initial production run at this time. We anticipate that before the delivery date the first production run is going to be a sell out. You can place an order on a major credit card and, as is our policy, no charge will be made to your credit card until the day we ship the radio to you.

We'll see many of you for our first hamfest here at the Ten-Tec factory in Sevierville on Saturday, October 7. We will have two operational Jupiter transceivers on site that will be in use on the HF bands during the hamfest.

Thanks for your interest in Ten-Tec and 73 from all of us.




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===== Carl HYDE W2CSH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us Thu Sep 28 13:59:29 2000 From: SEWATKINS@dgs.state.va.us (Sherrill WATKINS) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:59:29 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Jupiter Message Message-ID: Ten Tec needs to improve the pictures of their equipment on their web site. The pictures are too small and hard to see. Question: What is the purpose of the large CRT(?) display on fhe front of the new Jupiter? - Watt >>> Carl Hyde 09/28/00 08:46AM >>> I placed my order yesterday! --- Warren Bryant wrote: > > http://tentec.com/Jupitermsg.htm > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Click here for Free Video!! > http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ > >
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in The World With Our HF ReceiversHigh
Powered HF AmplifiersMatch Your Antenna with
ourTunersRack Mount your Ten-Tec GearAccessories for the Ham
ShackAmateur Products Home PageBuild
your own TransceiverTransverters Kits Build
your HF Receiver with these KitsHam
Shack Accessory KitsKits that are Easy and Just
Fun to BuldCan't find a Kit? Use this
selectorTen-Tec Home PageRequest
Product Info On-LineWhat's New here at Ten-TecInfo on
Used/Demo EquipmentSome questions asked about usAmateur Products Price ListNow
we can Finance your purchaseJobs
at Ten-Tec

JUPITER

September 25, 2000

Dear Friends: It is with great anticipation that we have awaited the release of our new JUPITER IF-DSP HF amateur radio transceiver. We have had a tremendous amount of interest shown in this new radio since it was announced at the Dayton HamventionÖ in May 2000.

As many of you are aware, there has been a worldwide shortage of electrical components available to manufacturers stretching back more than a year. Delivery times from suppliers for quantities of components have increased. We have made efforts to overcome this problem and continue building at the pace our business requires for both our amateur radio and commercial/military lines.

The reality, however, is that hoping that parts will arrive in time to meet anticipated delivery dates is just that: hope. We have learned this week that parts crucial to building the new transceiver will not be available to us as anticipated and we have no choice but to delay the initial manufacturing date of the new rig. Our best estimate for manufacture and delivery of the Jupiter is the 3rd or 4th week of November. Again, this is assuming no further parts procurement delays to begin building the new radio.

We are still taking orders for the initial production run at this time. We anticipate that before the delivery date the first production run is going to be a sell out. You can place an order on a major credit card and, as is our policy, no charge will be made to your credit card until the day we ship the radio to you.

We'll see many of you for our first hamfest here at the Ten-Tec factory in Sevierville on Saturday, October 7. We will have two operational Jupiter transceivers on site that will be in use on the HF bands during the hamfest.

Thanks for your interest in Ten-Tec and 73 from all of us.




For Product Questions: Contact Ten-Tec Sales

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===== Carl HYDE W2CSH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ki6pr@elite.net Thu Sep 28 15:20:01 2000 From: ki6pr@elite.net (Mike Siegel) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:20:01 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Headset? Message-ID: <001001c02957$31086060$4ade3ece@default> Hi Gang, What would be an appropriate headset for an Omni-V/Paragon? Something that would sound as good as a 705 mic. I don't see many electret mic'ed headsets lately, so it's pretty hard to tell from the ads. 73, Mike KI6PR El Rancho R.F., CA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From sales@tentec.com Thu Sep 28 14:20:41 2000 From: sales@tentec.com (Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:20:41 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Bash In-Reply-To: <51D11BFF2C20D41199D60050DA1C5873C855@LBHEXCH2> Message-ID: <4.1.20000928090852.00a8fbb0@208.55.110.21> Just wanted to point out that in the Sevierville/Pigeon Forge area (particularly Pigeon Forge, about 5 miles away) that there are an unlimited number of options for restaurants. Also an unlimited number of opportunities to get caught in traffic jams as well.... Looking forward to seeing all of you next weekend! From the response we've had it looks like we're going to have quite a crowd here on the 7th. Scott Robbins, W4PA At 05:15 PM 9/27/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Hello All. > >Guess who else got lucky and is going to be there next weekend? ME!! > >I can't wait to see and talk to all you Ten Tec crazies!! > >One more thing. I spoke to Will/KC5QWE and Ron/WD5FUN last night and we're >thinking about a get-together for Ten Tec reflector people and Tec Tec >User's Net people after the festivities at Ten Tec. Like maybe around 5-5:30 >pm. We're thinking somewhere local where a reservation isn't needed. Maybe a >pizza joint. > >If you're gonna be there and would like to attend, let me know in the next >couple days. Also for you locals, maybe you can help out in finding a place >for this and giving the place a heads up. If we can't find anywhere to go, >we can always go over to Stan's and hang out in his backyard. We could >probably even help him get those tools out of his tree (inside >joke)!!!!!!!!! > >Jay/KM6VX >Torrance, Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ten-Tec, Inc., 1185 Dolly Parton Pkwy, Sevierville, TN 37862 USA Contact Mon-Fri Eastern: Office/Tech (865) 453-7172 9 am-5 pm. Repair (865) 428-0364 8-4. Sales (800) 833-7373 9 am-5:30 pm. Fax (865) 428-4483 24 hrs. Visit us at --->--->---> Please note: E-mail for sales and general product info only. We presently do not offer repair, parts, or kit building tech support by electronic mail, please telephone (865) 428-0364 or (865) 453-7172. Ten-Tec manufactures amateur radio equipment, military and com- mercial use HF radio equipment, custom aluminum and steel enclosures and has an on-premises, fully equipped tool and die facility supplying metal and plastic injection mold industries. Potential tool and die, custom enclosure or communications electronics customer? Contact us with your needs. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Thu Sep 28 15:34:58 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:34:58 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Jupiter Message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > > Ten Tec needs to improve the pictures of their equipment on their > web site. The pictures are too small and hard to see. I agree. A way Ten-Tec can do it is to leave the existing picture as a thumbnail, but when clicked on with one's mouse, a bigger, higher resolution picture is presented on a separate webpage. 73, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Jim Loase" Message-ID: <003701c02959$51023060$0400005a@cle.ab.com> Scott, When will the Ham Fest be open for set up by vendors and will there be restroom facilities and refreshments available. Thanks Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales" To: Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten Tec Bash > > Just wanted to point out that in the Sevierville/Pigeon Forge area > (particularly Pigeon Forge, about 5 miles away) that there are an > unlimited number of options for restaurants. Also an unlimited > number of opportunities to get caught in traffic jams as well.... > > Looking forward to seeing all of you next weekend! From the > response we've had it looks like we're going to have quite a > crowd here on the 7th. > > Scott Robbins, W4PA > > > At 05:15 PM 9/27/00 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Hello All. > > > >Guess who else got lucky and is going to be there next weekend? ME!! > > > >I can't wait to see and talk to all you Ten Tec crazies!! > > > >One more thing. I spoke to Will/KC5QWE and Ron/WD5FUN last night and we're > >thinking about a get-together for Ten Tec reflector people and Tec Tec > >User's Net people after the festivities at Ten Tec. Like maybe around 5-5:30 > >pm. We're thinking somewhere local where a reservation isn't needed. Maybe a > >pizza joint. > > > >If you're gonna be there and would like to attend, let me know in the next > >couple days. Also for you locals, maybe you can help out in finding a place > >for this and giving the place a heads up. If we can't find anywhere to go, > >we can always go over to Stan's and hang out in his backyard. We could > >probably even help him get those tools out of his tree (inside > >joke)!!!!!!!!! > > > >Jay/KM6VX > >Torrance, Ca. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Ten-Tec, Inc., 1185 Dolly Parton Pkwy, Sevierville, TN 37862 USA > Contact Mon-Fri Eastern: Office/Tech (865) 453-7172 9 am-5 pm. > Repair (865) 428-0364 8-4. Sales (800) 833-7373 9 am-5:30 pm. > Fax (865) 428-4483 24 hrs. Visit us at > > --->--->---> Please note: E-mail for sales > and general product info only. We presently do not offer > repair, parts, or kit building tech support by electronic mail, > please telephone (865) 428-0364 or (865) 453-7172. > > Ten-Tec manufactures amateur radio equipment, military and com- > mercial use HF radio equipment, custom aluminum and steel > enclosures and has an on-premises, fully equipped tool and die > facility supplying metal and plastic injection mold industries. > Potential tool and die, custom enclosure or communications > electronics customer? Contact us with your needs. > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From khopper@uchicago.edu Thu Sep 28 17:19:16 2000 From: khopper@uchicago.edu (Ken Hopper) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:19:16 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] re: Jupiter picture Message-ID: <39D36F84.1CABE0C@uchicago.edu> I have a B*I*G picture showing details check out http://home.uchicago.edu/~khopper/Dayton-Jupiter.html how should I advertise it so more guys know about it? dit dit de Ken N9VV http://www.qsl.net/n9vv/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Bill_Ames@hyperion.com Thu Sep 28 17:29:38 2000 From: Bill_Ames@hyperion.com (Bill_Ames@hyperion.com) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:29:38 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] re: Jupiter picture Message-ID: <85256968.005AF651.00@hysoft-gateway1.hyperion.com> I put the picture in Print Shop Pro to see if the letters could be made more clear. No luck. I think we need an image that is of sufficient resolution that the labels can be clearly read. Now, who has that??? Bill Ames KB1LG -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mark@microenh.com Thu Sep 28 17:52:27 2000 From: mark@microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:52:27 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ride to TenTec Hamfest From Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <000b01c0296c$80bef960$71351cd8@microenh> Is anyone interested in sharing a ride from Columbus, or central or southwest Ohio to the TenTec hamfest next weekend? I'm looking at a 7 to 8 hour trip and looking for some company. I'm planning on leaving Friday morning and returning either Saturday after the hamfest or Sunday morning. I can drive, but the best I can do for radios is a temporary 2m installation. Mark Erbaugh, N8ME phone: 614 853-0004 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From tacquire@earthlink.net Thu Sep 28 19:33:29 2000 From: tacquire@earthlink.net (Dan) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:33:29 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Bash References: <4.1.20000928090852.00a8fbb0@208.55.110.21> Message-ID: <39D38EF9.D1D72528@earthlink.net> Dam why must I live nearly 3000 miles away!!! ARRRRRRRggg!!!! Sigh -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From grix@teleport.com Thu Sep 28 23:36:36 2000 From: grix@teleport.com (Lee Grimes) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:36:36 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] CORSAIRS I AND II Message-ID: <000b01c0299c$a6b9b800$dc391ad8@rjiredff> Hi All...in recent weeks I've been lucky enuf to have in my posession a couple Corsair xcvrs. Sat them side by side for comparisons. Found I like the Corsair 1 over the Corsair II. Pretty subjective, but I thot that the model 1 had a bit quieter receiver. And the noise blanker handled the nearby electric fences very well. The model II's blanker will handle more different kinds of noises including ignition type noises better, but my particular problem is the fences and the I simply does better. With the blanker full on, no fences and no splatter or distortion from nearby strong signals. I like the appearance of the model I better also. The II has the wonderful bandpass filter to go with the passband tuning, but the I has a full load of filters installed. And it is no small thing that I also have the matching VFO for the Corsair I. That all being the case, I will need to unload the "loser": For Sale: Corsair II, looks like new. No extra filters. Was at Ten Tec for PTO rebuild and go-thru in '98...have papers to show. Everything works as it should. $600 plus shipping. 961 power supply. Just as nice. $140 plus shipping. Buy the Corsair and 961 together and I ship. Also have a 960 power supply. Looks just like the 961 and is just as nice. $125 plus shipping. I have a digicam and can send pics if you are serious and need a peek. grix@teleport.com 73, Lee K7INU -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From randas@mindspring.com Thu Sep 28 23:47:17 2000 From: randas@mindspring.com (Tim Randa) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:47:17 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] CORSAIRS I AND II References: <000b01c0299c$a6b9b800$dc391ad8@rjiredff> Message-ID: <39D3CA75.E7F27FD7@mindspring.com> Lee...without a doubt the Corsair I is the best looking rig TT ever produced. Let the flames begin de Tim K0FL Lee Grimes wrote: > Hi All...in recent weeks I've been lucky enuf to have in my posession a > couple Corsair xcvrs. Sat them side by side for comparisons. Found I like > the Corsair 1 over the Corsair II. Pretty subjective, but I thot that the > model 1 had a bit quieter receiver. And the noise blanker handled the > nearby electric fences very well. The model II's blanker will handle more > different kinds of noises including ignition type noises better, but my > particular problem is the fences and the I simply does better. With the > blanker full on, no fences and no splatter or distortion from nearby strong > signals. I like the appearance of the model I better also. The II has the > wonderful bandpass filter to go with the passband tuning, but the I has a > full load of filters installed. And it is no small thing that I also have > the matching VFO for the Corsair I. That all being the case, I will need to > unload the "loser": > > For Sale: Corsair II, looks like new. No extra filters. Was at Ten Tec > for PTO rebuild and go-thru in '98...have papers to show. Everything works > as it should. $600 plus shipping. > > 961 power supply. Just as nice. $140 plus shipping. > > Buy the Corsair and 961 together and I ship. > > Also have a 960 power supply. Looks just like the 961 and is just as nice. > $125 plus shipping. > > I have a digicam and can send pics if you are serious and need a peek. > grix@teleport.com 73, Lee K7INU > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From EAvila@caiso.com Thu Sep 28 23:51:14 2000 From: EAvila@caiso.com (Avila, Edward) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:51:14 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] CORSAIRS I AND II Message-ID: <132A7F5BA87AD311AB8200508B7306E1025BF14D@csifiapp667.wepex.net> Hey, slamming my beloved Corsair II??? H A W! ......... both really nice rigs......../k6sdw -----Original Message----- From: Tim Randa [mailto:randas@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 3:47 PM To: Lee Grimes Cc: tentec@contesting.com Subject: Re: [TenTec] CORSAIRS I AND II Lee...without a doubt the Corsair I is the best looking rig TT ever produced. Let the flames begin de Tim K0FL Lee Grimes wrote: > Hi All...in recent weeks I've been lucky enuf to have in my posession a > couple Corsair xcvrs. Sat them side by side for comparisons. Found I like > the Corsair 1 over the Corsair II. Pretty subjective, but I thot that the > model 1 had a bit quieter receiver. And the noise blanker handled the > nearby electric fences very well. The model II's blanker will handle more > different kinds of noises including ignition type noises better, but my > particular problem is the fences and the I simply does better. With the > blanker full on, no fences and no splatter or distortion from nearby strong > signals. I like the appearance of the model I better also. The II has the > wonderful bandpass filter to go with the passband tuning, but the I has a > full load of filters installed. And it is no small thing that I also have > the matching VFO for the Corsair I. That all being the case, I will need to > unload the "loser": > > For Sale: Corsair II, looks like new. No extra filters. Was at Ten Tec > for PTO rebuild and go-thru in '98...have papers to show. Everything works > as it should. $600 plus shipping. > > 961 power supply. Just as nice. $140 plus shipping. > > Buy the Corsair and 961 together and I ship. > > Also have a 960 power supply. Looks just like the 961 and is just as nice. > $125 plus shipping. > > I have a digicam and can send pics if you are serious and need a peek. > grix@teleport.com 73, Lee K7INU > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From N4LQ@iglou.com Fri Sep 29 00:16:16 2000 From: N4LQ@iglou.com (Steve Ellington) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:16:16 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Jupiter Message References: <39D2B5AC.E50C74A1@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <003a01c029a2$1b989880$89efffcc@f1v7g7> Pshaw....Just order those parts from Radio Shack and get on with it. Steve N4LQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Bryant" To: ; "jay beamer tt" ; "ART" ; "Barry Carver" ; "Bill" ; "BILL CARPENTER" ; "Delano Geoghagan" ; "James E. Garrison" ; "Larry G. Johnson" ; "NORM" ; "Tom & Ann Rice" ; "Hank Willmon" Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:06 PM Subject: [TenTec] Jupiter Message > > http://tentec.com/Jupitermsg.htm > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Click here for Free Video!! > http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Jupiter Message JUPITER September 25, 2000 Dear Friends: It is with great anticipation that we have awaited the release of our new JUPITER IF-DSP HF amateur radio transceiver. We have had a tremendous amount of interest shown in this new radio since it was announced at the Dayton HamventionT in May 2000. As many of you are aware, there has been a worldwide shortage of electrical components available to manufacturers stretching back more than a year. Delivery times from suppliers for quantities of components have increased. We have made efforts to overcome this problem and continue building at the pace our business requires for both our amateur radio and commercial/military lines. The reality, however, is that hoping that parts will arrive in time to meet anticipated delivery dates is just that: hope. We have learned this week that parts crucial to building the new transceiver will not be available to us as anticipated and we have no choice but to delay the initial manufacturing date of the new rig. Our best estimate for manufacture and delivery of the Jupiter is the 3rd or 4th week of November. Again, this is assuming no further parts procurement delays to begin building the new radio. We are still taking orders for the initial production run at this time. We anticipate that before the delivery date the first production run is going to be a sell out. You can place an order on a major credit card and, as is our policy, no charge will be made to your credit card until the day we ship the radio to you. We'll see many of you for our first hamfest here at the Ten-Tec factory in Sevierville on Saturday, October 7. We will have two operational Jupiter transceivers on site that will be in use on the HF bands during the hamfest. Thanks for your interest in Ten-Tec and 73 from all of us. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- HF Transceivers | HF Amplifiers | HF Receivers | HF Tuners | Rack Mounts | Home | Transceiver Kits | Transverter Kits | Receiver Kits | Fun Kits | Accessory Kits | Main Page | Price List | Product Info | What's New | FAQ | Used/Demo | Financing | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- For Product Questions: Contact Ten-Tec Sales -------------------------------------------------------------------------- For Comments or questions concerning this web site ONLY contact Webmaster No Ten-Tec product questions can be answered by the Webmaster -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n1eu@hotmail.com Fri Sep 29 00:20:53 2000 From: n1eu@hotmail.com (Barry N1EU) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:20:53 EDT Subject: [TenTec] CORSAIRS I AND II Message-ID: Just to echo the praise of the Corsair receiver: I finally got my Corsair (orig) connected up to the Beverage receive antenna on 160M last weekend and was able to do A/B comparisons of its performance with a top-shelf modern Japanese rig. In pulling the weak cw signals out from the static crashes, the Corsair performed beautifully. Several times CW signals were still 100% copy on the Corsair when they were only about 50% copy on the other rig, as the signal turned mushy in the noise. The high level of (adjustable) gain in the rf/if stages of the Corsair was more than enough for the unamplified Beverage signals. I have to add that the Corsair was running with AGC off. This is the obvious glaring weakness of the Corsair in high static conditions. Sure wish I could retrofit a different AGC circuit and bring it up to par with the excellent rf/if chain. 73, Barry N1EU _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From EAvila@caiso.com Fri Sep 29 00:23:56 2000 From: EAvila@caiso.com (Avila, Edward) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:23:56 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Jupiter Message Message-ID: <132A7F5BA87AD311AB8200508B7306E1025BF157@csifiapp667.wepex.net> And, don't ferget the battery cards for the free batteries!! /k6sdw -----Original Message----- From: Steve Ellington [mailto:N4LQ@iglou.com] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 4:16 PM To: Warren Bryant; tentec@contesting.com; jay beamer tt; ART; Barry Carver; Bill; BILL CARPENTER; Delano Geoghagan; James E. Garrison; Larry G. Johnson; NORM; Tom & Ann Rice; Hank Willmon Subject: Re: [TenTec] Jupiter Message Pshaw....Just order those parts from Radio Shack and get on with it. Steve N4LQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Bryant" To: ; "jay beamer tt" ; "ART" ; "Barry Carver" ; "Bill" ; "BILL CARPENTER" ; "Delano Geoghagan" ; "James E. Garrison" ; "Larry G. Johnson" ; "NORM" ; "Tom & Ann Rice" ; "Hank Willmon" Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:06 PM Subject: [TenTec] Jupiter Message > > http://tentec.com/Jupitermsg.htm > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Click here for Free Video!! > http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Jupiter Message JUPITER September 25, 2000 Dear Friends: It is with great anticipation that we have awaited the release of our new JUPITER IF-DSP HF amateur radio transceiver. We have had a tremendous amount of interest shown in this new radio since it was announced at the Dayton HamventionT in May 2000. As many of you are aware, there has been a worldwide shortage of electrical components available to manufacturers stretching back more than a year. Delivery times from suppliers for quantities of components have increased. We have made efforts to overcome this problem and continue building at the pace our business requires for both our amateur radio and commercial/military lines. The reality, however, is that hoping that parts will arrive in time to meet anticipated delivery dates is just that: hope. We have learned this week that parts crucial to building the new transceiver will not be available to us as anticipated and we have no choice but to delay the initial manufacturing date of the new rig. Our best estimate for manufacture and delivery of the Jupiter is the 3rd or 4th week of November. Again, this is assuming no further parts procurement delays to begin building the new radio. We are still taking orders for the initial production run at this time. We anticipate that before the delivery date the first production run is going to be a sell out. You can place an order on a major credit card and, as is our policy, no charge will be made to your credit card until the day we ship the radio to you. We'll see many of you for our first hamfest here at the Ten-Tec factory in Sevierville on Saturday, October 7. We will have two operational Jupiter transceivers on site that will be in use on the HF bands during the hamfest. Thanks for your interest in Ten-Tec and 73 from all of us. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- HF Transceivers | HF Amplifiers | HF Receivers | HF Tuners | Rack Mounts | Home | Transceiver Kits | Transverter Kits | Receiver Kits | Fun Kits | Accessory Kits | Main Page | Price List | Product Info | What's New | FAQ | Used/Demo | Financing | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- For Product Questions: Contact Ten-Tec Sales -------------------------------------------------------------------------- For Comments or questions concerning this web site ONLY contact Webmaster No Ten-Tec product questions can be answered by the Webmaster -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From KF6ZZ@aol.com Fri Sep 29 02:55:25 2000 From: KF6ZZ@aol.com (KF6ZZ@aol.com) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:55:25 EDT Subject: [TenTec] CORSAIRS I AND II Message-ID: <31.aba84fb.2705508d@aol.com> In a message dated 00-09-28 19:21:54 EDT, you write: << .... I was able to do A/B comparisons of its performance with a top-shelf modern Japanese rig .... >> So what was the name of the ' Top-shelf ' Japanese radio ? It would be interesting to know which one to stay away from.... --- Phil KF6ZZ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From timscot@lightspeed.net Fri Sep 29 03:04:14 2000 From: timscot@lightspeed.net (timscot) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:04:14 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] HeadSet Mic's Message-ID: <000901c029b9$92968340$a309fea9@dad> from Tim {KQ6UF} How does the HIEL headsets work with Ten Tec rigs, anyone using them? -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From jkoppi@pclink.com Fri Sep 29 03:12:24 2000 From: jkoppi@pclink.com (Joseph Koppi) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:12:24 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] FS: Omni V, $850 Message-ID: <003201c029ba$b64b06c0$6d010bce@jkoppi> Omni V, very good condition, $850. QRP mod allows 3.5-watt operating level. Will sell rig with additional four-filter set for $1050. Sorry--no power supply. Joe, WØSU St. Paul, MN -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Fri Sep 29 03:15:53 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:15:53 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] CORSAIRS I AND II Message-ID: <20000928.221554.-4085951.2.gctotten@juno.com> That's easy....... Stay away from them all ! On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:55:25 EDT KF6ZZ@aol.com writes: > > In a message dated 00-09-28 19:21:54 EDT, you write: > > << .... I was able to do A/B comparisons of its performance > with a top-shelf modern Japanese rig .... >> > > So what was the name of the ' Top-shelf ' Japanese radio ? > > It would be interesting to know which one to stay away from.... > > --- Phil KF6ZZ > > -- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From aa4nn@juno.com Fri Sep 29 11:06:42 2000 From: aa4nn@juno.com (Joe L Blackwell) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:06:42 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Bash Message-ID: <20000929.060659.-871547.28.AA4NN@juno.com> Hi Scott/Stan, de Joe , aa4nn Do we park in the Ten-Tec visitors' parking lot, or, knowing your QTH at Ten-Tec, will the big yard out front be your big tail-gate setup? You must know, by now, that this Ten-Tec Ham Fest will be the first and biggest ever!!!!!!! You guys are gonna be swamped. Hi Stan, hope you get your tools outa that tree. 73, de Joe, Blackwell, aa4nn. Copy: K4SQR, Comtek Engineer of 4-square & Stack matches K4SQR will be there. AA4NN will be there. 73, de Joe, aa4nn > Scott writes: > Just wanted to point out that in the Sevierville/Pigeon Forge area > (particularly Pigeon Forge, about 5 miles away) that there are an > unlimited number of options for restaurants. Also an unlimited > number of opportunities to get caught in traffic jams as well.... > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Davenbarstow@aol.com Fri Sep 29 16:22:22 2000 From: Davenbarstow@aol.com (Davenbarstow@aol.com) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:22:22 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Gear That has been Sold Message-ID: <51.16d8647.27060dae@aol.com> I want to thank all who read my ad and responded to it. The following gear has been sold. The Paragon II and 961 Power Supply went to Canada to W.A. Parker - V9Y 7M7. The Ten Tec Titan went to KM6XC / Stan Jacox, in San Rafael, Ca. I am sure they found a good home. Also one of the Ten tec 705 Desk Mics Have been sold. So thank all of you who read my ad and emailed me. Have a good Day and do something good for your self . 73'S Dave WA6CQJ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From k4nys@attglobal.net Fri Sep 29 04:01:05 2000 From: k4nys@attglobal.net (Chuck Wright) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:01:05 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] HeadSet Mic's References: <000901c029b9$92968340$a309fea9@dad> Message-ID: <001201c029c1$839ff8a0$4c6a6420@chuck> Am having great success witn the HC4 and Paragon2. However, there is insufficient output from the Heil to operate my Omni6+. Believe the audio divider input network on the 6 is different. Get very gooi reports w/HC4 and Paragon2. 73s Chuck Wright K4NYS ------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: timscot To: Tentec Sent: Thursday, 28 September, 2000 10:04 PM Subject: [TenTec] HeadSet Mic's > > from Tim {KQ6UF} > How does the HIEL headsets work with Ten Tec rigs, anyone using them? -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From n8dv@arrl.net Fri Sep 29 11:38:49 2000 From: n8dv@arrl.net (Fred Regan) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:38:49 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electrontic parts Message-ID: <000501c02a01$74f63400$211f12d1@fregan> What's going on here guys? A shortage of electronic parts so that manufactures can't build the toys that we all enjoy and come to depend on? Shortly after TenTec said it is delaying introducing its new Jupiter radio due to a "shortage of electronic parts" Sony just admitted that it can't meet its promised Christmas introduction of its new PlayStation II. I smell a conspiracy here! Ok, who is hoarding the parts, the Arabs, naw, they have all the oil. Hmm, this bares a congressional investigation. 73, Fred N8DV :) -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Fri Sep 29 05:41:36 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:41:36 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] CORSAIRS I AND II References: <20000928.221554.-4085951.2.gctotten@juno.com> Message-ID: <39D41D80.51EE@infoave.net> Yep, I agree. I like big radios with big parts in them so when one has to fix it one doesn't have to be a neurosurgeon to get into the heart of the box. After all, they all got "off shore" parts in them. It's just matters in what order they are put together. Some have lots of whistles and bells while others specialize in music. I go for the music. 73 Bob K4TAX Gerald C Totten wrote: > > That's easy....... Stay away from them all ! > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:55:25 EDT KF6ZZ@aol.com writes: > > > > In a message dated 00-09-28 19:21:54 EDT, you write: > > > > << .... I was able to do A/B comparisons of its performance > > with a top-shelf modern Japanese rig .... >> > > > > So what was the name of the ' Top-shelf ' Japanese radio ? > > > > It would be interesting to know which one to stay away from.... > > > > --- Phil KF6ZZ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From W1XV@cs.com Fri Sep 29 02:38:06 2000 From: W1XV@cs.com (W1XV@cs.com) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:38:06 EDT Subject: [TenTec] Re: Back light material for Argonaut II Message-ID: Does anyone have a spare back light panel for the Argonaut II? I emailed one of the suppliers mentioned here over a year ago and received no response. The Ten Tec service dept is presently out of stock with no supplier of this material in sight. Any ideas anyone? 73, Brad W1XV -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From JBeamer@PanAmSat.com Fri Sep 29 16:42:48 2000 From: JBeamer@PanAmSat.com (JBeamer@PanAmSat.com) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:42:48 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec User's Net This Sunday Message-ID: <51D11BFF2C20D41199D60050DA1C5873C868@LBHEXCH2> Happy Friday to All! It's still a bit surprising to me how many new check-ins show up that have just stumbled across the net tuning the band and have never heard of the net! Anyway, the net is this and every Sunday on 14.267 +/- at 3 pm pacific local, 4 pm mountain local, 5 pm central local, 6 pm eastern local, or 2200UTC. Looking forward to the shindig next weekend! Jay/KM6VX Torrance, Ca. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From Brian" Message-ID: <002501c02a32$ffcde970$16492bd1@cincom.com> PLEASE don't get congress involved or we'll NEVER get our parts!! Remember...the opposite of PROGRESS is CONGRESS ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Regan To: Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 6:38 AM Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electrontic parts > > What's going on here guys? A shortage of electronic parts so that > manufactures can't build the toys that we all enjoy and come to depend on? > Shortly after TenTec said it is delaying introducing its new Jupiter radio > due to a "shortage of electronic parts" Sony just admitted that it can't > meet its promised Christmas introduction of its new PlayStation II. I smell > a conspiracy here! Ok, who is hoarding the parts, the Arabs, naw, they have > all the oil. Hmm, this bares a congressional investigation. > > 73, Fred N8DV :) > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From ve7asr@islandnet.com Fri Sep 29 19:18:54 2000 From: ve7asr@islandnet.com (Rick Williams) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:18:54 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] 253 Auto Tuner Mods? Message-ID: <000701c02a41$d6428b60$326bafc7@ricks> First let me state up front that I love my Model 253 Automatic Antenna Coupler! It does have an idiosyncrasy that bugs me. If I leave the power to the 253 on it remembers where it was when my Omni V was turned off. However, if I remove the power or otherwise turn off the 253 it seems to be partially brain dead on power-up. When the power is applied I must either go to another band or antenna and then back to the original band or antenna for it to establish the correct settings. This suggests to me that the non-volatile RAM (U8 the X240MP) still has life but something else is happening. (It seems that the relays that select the appropriate capacitors must somehow be reset and this does not happen automatically on power-up for some reason?) In conversations with others, I feel that the "problem" I have described is common to most if not all T-T 253 couplers. Is anyone aware of any mods (factory or otherwise) that might eliminate this inconvenience? Thanks, 73, Rick VE7ASR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From sales@tentec.com Fri Sep 29 14:21:12 2000 From: sales@tentec.com (Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:21:12 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Ten Tec Bash In-Reply-To: <20000929.060659.-871547.28.AA4NN@juno.com> Message-ID: <4.1.20000929085742.00a91100@208.55.110.21> Tailgating will be the employee parking lot behind the Ten-Tec building. We should be able to put about 200 cars back there plus overflow out onto the land surrounding the building and lots if necessary. We'll have the small visitors parking lot on the side blocked off for use by the people who are working that day and for the Boy Scouts to set up food and drink vending. The "main" parking (non-tailgate) the day of the hamfest will be the Electro-Voice plant parking lot directly across the street from us - they can hold several hundred cars and have given us permission to use it all day for the hamfest. Tailgating setup starts at 7 am Saturday. We'll be giving tours of the factory every 15 minutes through the course of the hamfest. Door prizes every hour with the main prize being a Scout transceiver at 3 PM. All day sale with just about everything new and used discounted off the normal retail price. Live entertainment. Huge circus tent on the front lawn with 4 HF stations in operation on the air all morning and afternoon. See you then ! Stan Brock, WDØBGS At 06:06 AM 9/29/00 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi Scott/Stan, de Joe , aa4nn > >Do we park in the Ten-Tec visitors' parking lot, or, >knowing your QTH at Ten-Tec, will the big yard out >front be your big tail-gate setup? You must know, >by now, that this Ten-Tec Ham Fest will be the first >and biggest ever!!!!!!! You guys are gonna be swamped. >Hi Stan, hope you get your tools outa that tree. >73, de Joe, Blackwell, aa4nn. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ten-Tec, Inc., 1185 Dolly Parton Pkwy, Sevierville, TN 37862 USA Contact Mon-Fri Eastern: Office/Tech (865) 453-7172 9 am-5 pm. Repair (865) 428-0364 8-4. Sales (800) 833-7373 9 am-5:30 pm. Fax (865) 428-4483 24 hrs. Visit us at --->--->---> Please note: E-mail for sales and general product info only. We presently do not offer repair, parts, or kit building tech support by electronic mail, please telephone (865) 428-0364 or (865) 453-7172. Ten-Tec manufactures amateur radio equipment, military and com- mercial use HF radio equipment, custom aluminum and steel enclosures and has an on-premises, fully equipped tool and die facility supplying metal and plastic injection mold industries. Potential tool and die, custom enclosure or communications electronics customer? Contact us with your needs. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From 70511.3041@compuserve.com Fri Sep 29 21:00:00 2000 From: 70511.3041@compuserve.com (Wilford D. Lindsey) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:00:00 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] For Sale--Ten-Tec Triton 544 & Power Supply Message-ID: <200009291600_MC2-B52A-36CB@compuserve.com> Gang: For Sale excellent Ten-Tec Triton 544 transceiver with the matching Ten-Tec 252G power supply. This is an extraordinary rig, with a terrific receiver. This is the digital version. Covers 80-10 Metres, but not the WARC bands. CW and SSB. Has the narrow CW filtre and the Noise Blanker. Output power can be easily adjusted from the front panel from ZERO watts out to QRO levels. Both pieces of equipment are very clean in appearance. They operate flawlessly. Total for both pieces = only $450.00 plus shipping. 72/73, --W.D. (Doc) Lindsey DSBF PO Box 6028 Bismarck, ND 58506 (Shipping = DSBF, 2020 Lovett Ave, Bismarck, ND, 58504) E-Mail = K0EVZ@arrl.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w8keb@1st.net Fri Sep 29 21:07:32 2000 From: w8keb@1st.net (Ken & LInda Burrough) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:07:32 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] F.S. Model 544 at Sevierville Only Message-ID: <006c01c02a50$f80807c0$c40bf0d1@default> Hi All I just ordered the new Jupiter and now have my beloved Triton IV Digital for sale. I am taking it to Sevierville next week but am not tailgating. I will take $300.00 for it, it is in very nice shape, Ten-Tec rebuilt the PTO and went through it in September 1998. This unit looks good and works like it should. AGAIN I WILL NOT SHIP IT, IF ANYONE WANTS IT, IT MUST BE IN SEVIERVILLE. Other then that, it will be traded in on the Jupiter. CHARLIE, WE0R, The e-mail I sent you this afternoon came back to me. The answer to your question is it has been sold. Thanks All. W8KEB KENNETH E. BURROUGH---(KEN) Ex: NE0C--KC0WN--N6EVC--KA2HJY USAF Ret w8keb@1st.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From sales@tentec.com Fri Sep 29 20:40:17 2000 From: sales@tentec.com (Ten-Tec Inc. Amateur Radio Sales) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:40:17 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electronic parts In-Reply-To: <000501c02a01$74f63400$211f12d1@fregan> Message-ID: <4.1.20000929153352.00aad120@208.55.110.21> I have to admit I hadn't heard about the PlayStation delivery but if it's the truth given what's going on in the electronic component supply industry right now I am not the least bit surprised. It's simple supply and demand - consumer electronics, in general, is booming and component plants simply can't keep up with manufacturer demand. If you'd like to see some background material on the industry have a look at: www.electronicnews.com www.eb-mag.com www.ebnonline.com ...or even a search through a search engine on something like ELECTRONIC COMPONENT LEAD TIME ought to bring up plenty of information. Kind of a peek behind the curtain of what goes on day-to-day for an electronics manufacturer.... 73, Scott Robbins, W4PA Amateur Radio Product Manager At 06:38 AM 9/29/00 -0400, you wrote: > >What's going on here guys? A shortage of electronic parts so that >manufactures can't build the toys that we all enjoy and come to depend on? >Shortly after TenTec said it is delaying introducing its new Jupiter radio >due to a "shortage of electronic parts" Sony just admitted that it can't >meet its promised Christmas introduction of its new PlayStation II. I smell >a conspiracy here! Ok, who is hoarding the parts, the Arabs, naw, they have >all the oil. Hmm, this bares a congressional investigation. > > 73, Fred N8DV :) > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ten-Tec, Inc., 1185 Dolly Parton Pkwy, Sevierville, TN 37862 USA Contact Mon-Fri Eastern: Office/Tech (865) 453-7172 9 am-5 pm. Repair (865) 428-0364 8-4. Sales (800) 833-7373 9 am-5:30 pm. Fax (865) 428-4483 24 hrs. Visit us at --->--->---> Please note: E-mail for sales and general product info only. We presently do not offer repair, parts, or kit building tech support by electronic mail, please telephone (865) 428-0364 or (865) 453-7172. Ten-Tec manufactures amateur radio equipment, military and com- mercial use HF radio equipment, custom aluminum and steel enclosures and has an on-premises, fully equipped tool and die facility supplying metal and plastic injection mold industries. Potential tool and die, custom enclosure or communications electronics customer? Contact us with your needs. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From tacquire@earthlink.net Fri Sep 29 21:29:30 2000 From: tacquire@earthlink.net (Dan) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:29:30 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Noise Blanker References: <4.1.20000929153352.00aad120@208.55.110.21> Message-ID: <39D4FBAA.382F9BF8@earthlink.net> Does the Jupiter have a noise blanker? -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Fri Sep 29 22:45:54 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:45:54 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electronic parts Message-ID: <20000929.174555.-4102861.1.gctotten@juno.com> Heck, You young guys will get bored this winter and the birth rate will take a big jump next fall ! Then you will have to sell radios to pay bills and us old guys will be buying...... Have a nice weekend guys and gals, DE Jerry K8JRO -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From W1XV@cs.com Sat Sep 30 00:14:31 2000 From: W1XV@cs.com (W1XV@cs.com) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:14:31 EDT Subject: [TenTec] re: back lamp for Argonaut II Message-ID: <96.a3d2ddb.27067c57@cs.com> Over a year ago there was discussion re the availability of back light material for the Argonaut II. I have recently emailed one of the mentioned distributors and have not received a reply. Perhaps someone out there has a panel that they will sell?? The Ten Tec service dept is out of stock and has no current supplier. It seems that this material should be available somewhere!! Can anyone lend a hand? Tnx for the bandwidth. 73, Brad W1XV -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Sat Sep 30 00:42:48 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:42:48 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Model 544 In-Reply-To: <006c01c02a50$f80807c0$c40bf0d1@default> Message-ID: Say...curiosity is gnawing at me.... In all the 544's that seem to be coming and going, has anyone run across serial number 544-00069 -- I think that was T-T's s/n format for the 544. I bought that radio somewhere back around 1979 or 80, just after it came out. Some 4 in Alabama had posted an ad in QST classifieds offering it, the speaker/p.s., ammeter, remote VFO for $750. My then-wife thought I was crazy to send him a cashier's check for that amount based solely on one telephone conversation with the guy. I told her something to the effect: It's okay. He's a ham. Apparently, just after he bought the 544, et al, Drake came out with the TR7 (I think that's what it was--clear plastic bandswitch knob dial?) and he was champing at the bit for it. The 544 had been on the air for 'only 30 minutes.' It was perfect when I received it and it played for about 15 years before (three years in a house in a subdivision with deed restrictions = 5 dipoles in the attic = 187 countries = fun!) I sold it a few years ago to a local retiree. He's since moved north and I've often wondered if one of the 544's mentioned might not be my old 544. Curiously enough, when my dad passed away and I inherited his ham equipment, one of the items he had was a T-T 2581, 2m handheld (He had seen mine and liked it's simplicity and bought one a few weeks later). It's s/n is (still have it and my original one) 00069, also. 73, dale, kg5u > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w4foa@voy.net Sat Sep 30 01:06:07 2000 From: w4foa@voy.net (B. J. "Tony" Martin) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:06:07 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Model 544 References: Message-ID: <39D52E6E.64836521@voy.net> Hi Dale, et al, Neat story. Would be great if you could find that special radio. I read your message with interest....BUT...surely my copy of the message was garbled in transmission as it said something like "....a retiree....moved NORTH"? Hmmmmm, now that is an interesting idea...nawwwwww! 8-) Tony, W4FOA Chickamauga, GA The Scenic Center of the South Dale L Martin wrote: > Say...curiosity is gnawing at me.... > > In all the 544's that seem to be coming and going, has anyone run across > > serial number 544-00069 -- I think that was T-T's s/n format for the 544. > > I bought that radio somewhere back around 1979 or 80, just after it came > out. Some 4 in Alabama had posted an ad in QST classifieds offering it, the > speaker/p.s., ammeter, remote VFO for $750. My then-wife thought I was > crazy to send him a cashier's check for that amount based solely on one > telephone conversation with the guy. I told her something to the effect: > It's okay. He's a ham. > > Apparently, just after he bought the 544, et al, Drake came out with the TR7 > (I think that's what it was--clear plastic bandswitch knob dial?) and he was > champing at the bit for it. The 544 had been on the air for 'only 30 > minutes.' > > It was perfect when I received it and it played for about 15 years before > (three years in a house in a subdivision with deed restrictions = 5 dipoles > in the attic = 187 countries = fun!) > > I sold it a few years ago to a local retiree. > > He's since moved north and I've often wondered if one of the 544's mentioned > might not be my old 544. > > Curiously enough, when my dad passed away and I inherited his ham equipment, > one of the items he had was a T-T 2581, 2m handheld (He had seen mine and > liked it's simplicity and bought one a few weeks later). It's s/n is (still > have it and my original one) 00069, also. > > 73, > dale, kg5u > > > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From crobson@erie.net Sat Sep 30 01:23:23 2000 From: crobson@erie.net (Chris Robson) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:23:23 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electrontic parts In-Reply-To: <000501c02a01$74f63400$211f12d1@fregan> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000929201308.00a98800@erie.net> --=====================_41706224==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Boy can I relate to the Shortage of electronic parts...My business had some purchase orders cancelled due to the product we produce mates with some LEDs which my customer can not get due to this shortage. This is known as trickle down effect. I guess thats what happens when we work in a global economy where the bare footed & rice eaters can't be whipped to work harder. I guess this would be a great opportunity for some American company to start manufacturing in the US...oh, that's right we don't support manufacturing in this country...Never mind. 73, Chris KB3A Chris Robson The Robson Company,Inc. 4485 Kell Rd. Fairview, Pa. 16415 ISO 9001 Certified Plastic Injection Mold Design & Injection Molding of small precision components Phone & Fax: 814-474-1211 http://www.robsonco.com E-Mail: crobson@robsonco.com --=====================_41706224==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Boy can I relate to the Shortage of electronic parts...My business had some purchase orders cancelled due to the product we produce mates with some LEDs  which my customer can not get due to this shortage.  This is known as trickle down effect. I guess thats what happens when we work in a global economy where the bare footed & rice eaters can't be whipped to work harder. I guess this would be a great opportunity for some American company to start manufacturing in the US...oh, that's right we don't support manufacturing in this country...Never mind.

73, Chris KB3A


Chris Robson
The Robson Company,Inc.
4485 Kell Rd.
Fairview, Pa.  16415
ISO 9001 Certified
Plastic Injection Mold Design &
Injection Molding of small precision components
Phone & Fax: 814-474-1211
E-Mail: crobson@robsonco.com


--=====================_41706224==_.ALT-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Sat Sep 30 01:33:34 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:33:34 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Model 544 Message-ID: <20000929.203334.-4187745.3.gctotten@juno.com> Tony, Well it goes like this. A guy retires, sells his house, goes south, ( or south west, ) lives for a few years with high phone bills and frequent trips back to the old home town to see the kids and grand kids and then one day his wife says, "I've had enough of this." And he moves back to his old home town. Often to his old neighborhood. I have seen it happen many times :-) 73 Jerry K8JRO -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From gctotten@juno.com Sat Sep 30 01:40:50 2000 From: gctotten@juno.com (Gerald C Totten) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:40:50 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electrontic parts Message-ID: <20000929.204543.-4187745.4.gctotten@juno.com> Chris, A guy named Ralph Nader has a plan to change that. ( Just a comment ) Jerry K8JRO On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:23:23 -0400 Chris Robson writes: > Boy can I relate to the Shortage of electronic parts...My business > had some > harder. I guess this would be a great opportunity for some American > company > to start manufacturing in the US...oh, that's right we don't support > > manufacturing in this country...Never mind. > > 73, Chris KB3A > > snip< -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From tacquire@earthlink.net Sat Sep 30 02:15:45 2000 From: tacquire@earthlink.net (Dan) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:15:45 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electrontic parts References: <20000929.204543.-4187745.4.gctotten@juno.com> Message-ID: <39D53EC1.96924E99@earthlink.net> Isn't nader that commy green party candidate or is that someone else? Gerald C Totten wrote: > Chris, > A guy named Ralph Nader has a plan to change that. > > ( Just a comment ) > Jerry K8JRO > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:23:23 -0400 Chris Robson > writes: > > Boy can I relate to the Shortage of electronic parts...My business > > had some > > > harder. I guess this would be a great opportunity for some American > > company > > to start manufacturing in the US...oh, that's right we don't support > > > > manufacturing in this country...Never mind. > > > > 73, Chris KB3A > > > > snip< > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From tacquire@earthlink.net Sat Sep 30 02:17:23 2000 From: tacquire@earthlink.net (Dan) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:17:23 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electrontic parts References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000929201308.00a98800@erie.net> Message-ID: <39D53F23.25C33A6B@earthlink.net> --------------B5951417599AD246707011EA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to drool whenever I look in old qst's or handbooks and see all the great old american made radio parts. Johnson, National, etc etc etc Sigh Chris Robson wrote: > Boy can I relate to the Shortage of electronic parts...My business had > some purchase orders cancelled due to the product we produce mates > with some LEDs which my customer can not get due to this shortage. > This is known as trickle down effect. I guess thats what happens when > we work in a global economy where the bare footed & rice eaters can't > be whipped to work harder. I guess this would be a great opportunity > for some American company to start manufacturing in the US...oh, > that's right we don't support manufacturing in this country...Never > mind. > > 73, Chris KB3A > > Chris RobsonThe Robson Company,Inc.4485 Kell Rd.Fairview, Pa. > 16415ISO 9001 CertifiedPlastic Injection Mold Design &Injection > Molding of small precision componentsPhone & Fax: > 814-474-1211http://www.robsonco.comE-Mail: crobson@robsonco.com > --------------B5951417599AD246707011EA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to drool whenever I look in old qst's or handbooks and see all the great old american made radio parts.  Johnson, National, etc etc etc

Sigh

Chris Robson wrote:

Boy can I relate to the Shortage of electronic parts...My business had some purchase orders cancelled due to the product we produce mates with some LEDs  which my customer can not get due to this shortage.  This is known as trickle down effect. I guess thats what happens when we work in a global economy where the bare footed & rice eaters can't be whipped to work harder. I guess this would be a great opportunity for some American company to start manufacturing in the US...oh, that's right we don't support manufacturing in this country...Never mind.

73, Chris KB3A
 
 Chris RobsonThe Robson Company,Inc.4485 Kell Rd.Fairview, Pa.  16415ISO 9001 CertifiedPlastic Injection Mold Design &Injection Molding of small precision componentsPhone & Fax: 814-474-1211http://www.robsonco.comE-Mail: crobson@robsonco.com
 

--------------B5951417599AD246707011EA-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From w5yr@att.net Sat Sep 30 02:29:07 2000 From: w5yr@att.net (George, W5YR) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:29:07 -0500 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electrontic parts References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000929201308.00a98800@erie.net> <39D53F23.25C33A6B@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <39D541E3.C212332C@att.net> Back in the late-40's a couple of years after the end of WWII, you could walk into Crabtree's Radio in Dallas, TX with a parts list for a KW AM phone rig, receiver, antenna parts, etc. etc. You could walk out an hour or so later - had to spend a lot of time lookin' and visitin' - with everything needed for a new rig or entire station. And everything was Made in the USA. Plus, there was about a 1/2 acre lot out back that was crammed with surplus of every description, often sold by the pound, most of it brand new still in overseas packaging. Glad I am old enough to have been there . . . and to have built much of my first station from such parts. 72/73, George W5YR - the Yellow Rose of Texas Fairview, TX 30 mi NE Dallas in Collin county QRP-L 1373 Amateur Radio W5YR, in the 55th year and it just keeps getting better! Icom IC-756 PRO #02121 (9/00) Kachina #91900556 (12/99) IC-765 (6/90) Dan wrote: > > I have to drool whenever I look in old qst's or handbooks and see all > the great old american made radio parts. Johnson, National, etc etc > etc > > Sigh -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From aa4nn@juno.com Sat Sep 30 02:35:52 2000 From: aa4nn@juno.com (Joe L Blackwell) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:35:52 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electrontic parts Message-ID: <20000929.214339.-871547.31.AA4NN@juno.com> Whatcha wanna bet. You'll be able to buy a Jupiter at the Ten-Tec Hamfest. Bring money. 73, de Joe Blackwell, aa4nn Fred Regan writes: > > What's going on here guys? A shortage of electronic parts so that > manufactures can't build the toys that we all enjoy and come to > depend on? -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From mark@microenh.com Sat Sep 30 17:00:07 2000 From: mark@microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:00:07 -0400 Subject: [TenTec] HeadSet Mic's References: <000901c029b9$92968340$a309fea9@dad> <001201c029c1$839ff8a0$4c6a6420@chuck> Message-ID: <006601c02afb$68eb68b0$db0a7fd8@microenh> My Heil HC4 and Goldline works fine with with Omni V. The mic gain seting is pretty low (about 8 o'clock or less). Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Wright" To: "timscot" Cc: "Ten Tec Reflector" Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [TenTec] HeadSet Mic's > > Am having great success witn the HC4 and Paragon2. > However, there is insufficient output from the Heil to > operate my Omni6+. Believe the audio divider > input network on the 6 is different. > Get very gooi reports w/HC4 and Paragon2. > 73s > Chuck Wright > K4NYS > > ------------------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: timscot > To: Tentec > Sent: Thursday, 28 September, 2000 10:04 PM > Subject: [TenTec] HeadSet Mic's > > > > > > from Tim {KQ6UF} > > How does the HIEL headsets work with Ten Tec rigs, anyone using them? > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From kg5u@hal-pc.org Sat Sep 30 18:59:04 2000 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L Martin) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:59:04 -0500 Subject: FW: [TenTec] T-T's Mod for the mike preamp Message-ID: I found this note from a couple of years ago in my ten-tec folder.... it may be helpful... 73, dale, kg5u > -----Original Message----- > From: TROY WIDEMAN [mailto:tlwideman@eee.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 3:46 PM > To: tentec@contesting.com; n9thc@foxvalley.net > Subject: [TenTec] T-T's Mod for the mike preamp > > > I installed the mod reported by Rick, N9THC, in the mike > preamp on my Omni VI. It was very similar to one I had > already devised but I decided to install a more "official" > change. The mod (change R55 from a 330k to a 470k and R54 > from a 47k to a 22k) does increase the gain needed by the > Heil cartridges. The approach I used was to just shunt R54 > with a 39k and insert a 139k in series with R55. An > additional mod I added was to shunt C50 (.1 ufd) with a > 10ufd capacitor. My voice is quite low and, by doing this, > the preamp accommodates my voice characteristics. > 73, Troy, W6HV > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/tentecfaq.htm > Submissions: tentec@contesting.com > Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com > Search: http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From tacquire@earthlink.net Sat Sep 30 22:23:47 2000 From: tacquire@earthlink.net (Dan) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:23:47 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Whee It works! -- To Sales Guys etc References: <4.3.2.7.0.20000929201308.00a98800@erie.net> Message-ID: <39D659E3.4AEE5065@earthlink.net> I spoke to one of your kit specialists and told him the results of my tests on my 20 meter qrp xcvr's lack of output. He agreed that it was an open final and wanted to send me a replacement even before I had explained how I came to my conclusion that the final was bad! Final arrived this afternoon and sure enough my little transmitter sprang to life once I got the new one in!!!!! I tested both finals with an ohmeter before I put them in and the new one indeed read completely differently than the old one. I'm so thrilled because I was on several occaisions on the brink of throwing this rig in the trash and being done with it but my faith has been restored in my "small parts" seeing/soldering abilities. I haven't tried to contact anyone yet but I'm sure I'll have good results, receiver sure is hot to. This is customer service I have never experienced anywhere before :)) 73 Dan kd6nxi -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From winjones@ix.netcom.com Sat Sep 30 09:05:51 2000 From: winjones@ix.netcom.com (Winston F. Jones) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:05:51 -0000 Subject: [TenTec] FS/FT: Dentron Clipperton-L Message-ID: <000a01c02ab5$40961a40$4b1556d1@winstonj> FOR SALE OR TRADE: Dentron Clipperton-L amp. About a 7 of 10 cosmetically, some scratches, one non-original knob. It's the older model without tuned input. Needs some work. Transformer, high voltage supply and filament supply O.K. Tubes light up, but amp doesn't have correct idle current and does not put out power when driven. Suspect bad relay contacts or zener diode. Don't want to take the time or expense to repair. Have four new 811A tubes for it and three 572Bs that was with it when I bought it. Not sure of their condition but the filaments do light. Have original manual. Will sell for $275 or will swap for Ten-Tec gear such as Argosy, Argonaut 515, 2-meter FM kit, etc. Will deliver to Ten-Tec hamfest next weekend at Sevierville. Don't want to ship. Let me know by e-mail if you're interested. I don't think it will take much to get it working. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com From RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net Sat Sep 30 15:05:16 2000 From: RMcGraw@InfoAve.Net (Bob & Linda McGraw K4TAX) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 07:05:16 -0700 Subject: [TenTec] Shortage of electrontic parts References: <000501c02a01$74f63400$211f12d1@fregan> Message-ID: <39D5F31C.6142@infoave.net> Fred & company, Yep, probably true. I spent 15 years working for Sony in their manufacturing division (Professional Audio & Video Division) and yes, parts are scarce. The computer folks are eating up most of the DSP processors and memory as I recall. Hey do you recall the supply vs. demand theory in business? That's what make the world go round as well as prices and profits. 73 Bob Fred Regan wrote: > > What's going on here guys? A shortage of electronic parts so that > manufactures can't build the toys that we all enjoy and come to depend on? > Shortly after TenTec said it is delaying introducing its new Jupiter radio > due to a "shortage of electronic parts" Sony just admitted that it can't > meet its promised Christmas introduction of its new PlayStation II. I smell > a conspiracy here! Ok, who is hoarding the parts, the Arabs, naw, they have > all the oil. Hmm, this bares a congressional investigation. > > 73, Fred N8DV :) -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/tentec Submissions: tentec@contesting.com Administrative requests: tentec-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-tentec@contesting.com