[TenTec] Is Jupiter > Icom 746: what is "quiet"? forgot to sign

[cyr999@extremezone.com]

Oh - forgot to sign the note I just wrote hi hi - this is Tim Logan NZ7C

Quoting cyr999@extremezone.com:

> Hi all - 
> 
> I find it quite interesting that Joe has aid the Jupitor is quieter. I
> have no 
> way of knowing since I have never even seen a Jupitor. What I am REALLY
> curious 
> about is how the phrase "Quieter" is defined. In one sense, if you hear
> nothing, 
> a rig will be really quiet! On the other hand a rig could be quiet yet
> in doing 
> so shut out some signals you'd really like to hear. I know I sound like
> a techno 
> idiot, but I am beginning to wonder what "quiet" is. Anybody care to
> share a 
> practical definition of a "quiet rig"?   
> 
> 
> I have an interesting last two months which I feel has opened my eyes a
> bit. 
> When I finally cleared up a few internal shack errors (with George's
> help), my 
> 756 PRO ran circles around my OMNI V. A took me a little bit of time to
> sort out 
> some problems that I created when I rearranged my shack upon getting the
> 756 - 
> mainly ground loops and RFI. (One thing I did was hookup an external
> audio amp 
> that is totally cool). Once my idiot mistakes were taken care of I could
> truly 
> experience the 756 PRO. It is a phenomenal rig. 
> 
> Now don't get me wrong, I LOVED that OMNI V and I love TenTec as a
> company. I 
> still do and always will.  But I have to say that I feel I listened to
> the 
> "crystals are the only way" theme for too long and it made me narrow
> minded. The 
> 756 PRO is one terrific rig - no matter where it's made. 
> 
> Now here's the interesting part - once I learned how to use it and got
> used to 
> the characteristics of a DSP rig, I realized my "quiet" OMNI was not
> hearing 
> sigs the 756 was hearing. I know very little about interpreting the spec
> 
> comparisons as shown on Elecraft's chart for all the major rigs, but I
> do know 
> what I hear in the shack. So how do we define a "quiet" receiver?
> 
> Quoting Joe Word <joe_word@yahoo.com>:
> 
> > John,
> > 
> > I did own an Icom IC-746 and now own a Jupiter.
> > Compared them side-by-side for about a month. I
> > decided to keep the Jupiter and sell the IC-746
> > because the Jupiter was much quieter on receive. Here
> > are my thoughts on the two rigs:
> > 
> > Jupiter strong points.
> > 1. Quiet receiver.
> > 2. Better audio reports on transmit.
> > 3. Digital filters, I use them as often as I use RIT.
> > 4. Very seldon use NR because the rig is so quiet, but
> > used NR all the time on the IC-746. NR does work great
> > on 75 meters and has no (none) watery sound.
> > 5. Not picky about SWR, will put out full power at
> > high SWR. 
> > 
> > IC-746 strong points and what you lose with the
> > Jupiter.
> > 1. One button band selection.
> > 2. Triple band stacking registers.
> > 3. Twin passband tuning.
> > 4. Antenna tuner.
> > 5. Much better display.
> > 6. Better control knob feel, the Jupiter's multi knob
> > feels like you are turning a stick molasses. 
> > 7. Less prone to have RF problems in rig.
> > 
> > Well this is my opinion...
> > 
> > Joe  K9MAN
> > 
> > 
> > 
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