[TenTec] The Scout was noisy

robert k stephens bstephens1@mindspring.com
Sat, 02 Mar 2002 09:04:57 -0500


At 11:37 PM 3/4/02 -0600, Duane A Calvin wrote:
>Bob,
>        The ARRL has an article on their web site explaining the receiver
>measurements and how to understand them.  It's an excellent article.
>
>        73,  Duane


Thanks Duane,
      Yes, I have read that article and more or less understand it. I am
sure that there are several on this list who understand the details left
out of the article.For example the TS 50  seems to have better  specs for
MDS while the Scout has better BDR rating. Unless I've forgotten what that
means (I read the article  last summer and should re read it) I think this
means that under normal conditions the Scout hears a bit better that the TS
50 but the Scout would be sommewhat more subject to strong signal
interference. I'm not sure how important that difference is during normal
everyday operating.

The test was done in 1993 which means that the umimproved CPU was tested.
Would I be right in thinking that the upgrade would improve the MDS and
(what they call) "Phase" noise while it would not improve the other specs?
tnx & 73
Bob KB1CIW

>On Sat, 02 Mar 2002 06:22:42 -0500 robert k stephens
><bstephens1@mindspring.com> writes:
>> Stuart and everyone,
>> 
>> First I want to thank all for their comments. Very interesting to 
>> see what
>> different guy's experiences with the Scout have been.
>> 
>> Regarding noise. I understand that some of the CPUs were noisier 
>> than
>> others and there is an upgrade/fix for that.
>> 
>> 
>>  The following numbers are from  the Elecraft page.
>> 
>> RIG      MDS         IMDDR3     Ip3        BDR        Phase Noise  
>> Phase Noise
>>                                       (20 kHz space)   (@ +4 kHz)   
>> (@+10 kHz)
>> 
>> K2       -131/-138    97/98    +21.6/+6.9   136/128      -120        
>>  -126
>> Omni 6+  -133         97       +12          123 (nl)     -117        
>>  -123
>> Pegasus  -132         77       +7.2         123(nl)      -115        
>>  -120
>> IC 706   -136/-142    89/86    -1.3/-11     122nl/120nl  -95         
>>  -115
>> TS 50    -132/-139    90/88    +3/-7        113/109      -115        
>>  -125
>> Scout    -125         87       +5.5         119          -95         
>>  -115
>> SGC2020  -130         88       +15.5        110          -108        
>>  -115
>> 
>> Questions:
>> 
>> 1. Does anyone know if these specs represent the upgraded
>>  or non-upgraded Scout CPU ?
>> 
>> 2. Although I do understand the crude basic meaning of the numbers I 
>> don't 
>> really understand the details or the real connection to operating. 
>> I'd like
>> to hear comments from those who are more experienced and more 
>> knowledgeable. 
>> tnx & 73
>> Bob, KB1CIW
>>      
>> 
>>   At 03:36 PM 3/4/02 -0600, you wrote:
>> >Not phase noise, as its oscillator is PTO, not a synth.
>> >
>> >You might have heard the CPU keyer micro controller, but that is 
>> fixable.
>> >73,
>> >Stuart k5KVH
>> >
>> >
>> >
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