[TenTec] It's "Only" 1.7 dB

Jeff Peacock ve3ios@servers.ca
Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:12:18 -0500


I think the want for more than 100 watts is to give you the edge over the
competition in a pileup. They will in most part be running 100 watts
barefoot. 150watts will give you the edge, not in the big messy drag em out
pile ups but the casual dxing ones.
Jeff
ve3ios
----- Original Message -----
From: "Art" <rtgsdad@mchsi.com>
To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] It's "Only" 1.7 dB


> Perhaps the person concerned about the power output runs a grounded-grid
> amplifier with 3-500Z's, in which case, on some bands, 110 to 120 watts
> drive may be necessary to produce full output.  That said, the difference
> between full output (based on power supply, perhaps 1200 watts, perhaps
> 1500) and what was attainable with slightly less drive may be negligible.
> Just a thought.
>
> KC2G
> Art
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <al_lorona@agilent.com>
> To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:47 PM
> Subject: [TenTec] It's "Only" 1.7 dB
>
>
> >
> > As a QRP aficionado, I am inclined to agree that 1.7 dB isn't a big
enough
> > difference to worry about, but I suppose there could be reasons why it
> would
> > be important to someone.
> >
> > Perhaps a person has 1.7 dB of loss in his coax and, psychologically
> > speaking, making it up with more power helps one feel better about his
> > system.
> >
> > I have heard people who find themselves frequently working in weak
signal
> > conditions at or below the noise level say that in those cases 1 or 2 dB
> > makes a lot of difference.
> >
> > I'm actually still undecided on this issue.
> >
> > Let's pose it this way: if 1.7 dB isn't enough to get upset about, would
> you
> > accept with the same nonchanlance a general *decrease* of 1.7 dB (down
to
> 67
> > Watts) in the maximum output power from the new Orion?
> >
> > Al  W6LX
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Caitlyn Martin [mailto:caitlynmaire@earthlink.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, 18 March 2002 8:24 AM
> > > To: Gord Hamilton ve7on
> > > Cc: TenTec@contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 10:43:02 -0800
> > > "Gord Hamilton ve7on" <ghamilto@direct.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I feel Ten-Tec is on the right track with their looks and
> > > performance
> > > > goals but please make the radio deliver 150 watts to the
> > > antenna.  If
> > > > the rig is only 100 watts I might buy one.  If it is 150
> > > watts I WILL
> > > > buy one.
> > >
> > > The 50% increase in power representes all of about 1.4db, or a barely
> > > noticable increase in signal strength.  It won't even show up on an
> > > S-meter.  Why is the extra 50 watts so important?  I really don't get
> > > it.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Caity
> > > KU4QD
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