[TenTec] Field Day Orion
Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX
RMcGraw at Blomand.Net
Mon Jun 30 19:04:16 EDT 2003
Remember folks, when you install new software that is associated with the
operating system in your computer the little message that comes up " Would
you like to restart your computer now?". "YES, restart my computer now"
"NO, I'll restart it latter"
Hence, your updates will not take effect until the computer is restarted.
The ORION, the JUPITER and PEG is no different.
73
Bob, K4TAX
Time to reboot the box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "WD4K" <WD4K2 at charter.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:51 PM
Subject: [TenTec] Field Day Orion
> I would like to second Marty's comments. I had my 1000MP (fully filtered,
> Inrad etc) set up 5 feet from the CW station and the CW was destroying it.
> Both on 20M for instance, worst case. I decided to get the Orion back out
of
> the truck (more on this later) and just try it with nothing else changed.
> Just switched it with the MP and... UN-BE-LIEVABLE. Where the MP was
> saturated, the Orion would receive the CW clear and clean, no distortion
> whatsoever when on the exact freq of the CW station; BUT, when I moved 4
or
> 5 Khz in either direction-GONE, but for a tiny click artifact. 5 Khz away
on
> the same band!! Just beyond belief. This is just one observation but very
> impressive to me and the other ops at the table. This front end must be
> wrapped in Kevlar.
>
> Now, for the downside, The Orion had not been used since the WD4K CWWPX
with
> K0EJ as guest op. Plus 2k q's, not a glitch. When I turned it on,
everything
> works..almost-- BUT...it would not see the key or keyer. What to do? The
> downside is I forgot, in the hectic moment to do a master reset, we wanted
> to be on the air and certainly no time to read the manual so we canned it.
> Thankfully my friend John, WB4QDA (Orion owner)and his xyl came to visit,
> bearing his laptop with all the new downloads. He downloaded and then John
> had the good sense that I didn't, and did the master reset after the
> download---Bingo! Perfect. The Orion survived with no scratches and a
whale
> of a test under its belt and I thought it did great...However I could have
> done a better job with it. When your radio is smarter than you are, well,
> like the new Arnold movie I guess--the rise of the machines:) I wonder if
I
> keyed a "sry" to the Orion if it would understand...scary. 73, Tommy
>
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> 1. Need Corsair II knob! (Don Rasmussen)
> 2. Re: Need Corsair II knob! (Mike Hyder --N4NT--)
> 3. Re: Need Corsair II knob! (denton)
> 4. FS: TT #285 & #288 6.3 IF filters
> 5. Re: Need Corsair II knob!
> 6. 2A GA Omni A, Omni D at w4rrw (tongaloa)
> 7. Need help: Corsair II meter problem (Rob Atkinson, K5UJ)
> 8. Need help: Corsair II meter problem (Rob Atkinson, K5UJ)
> 9. Orion at field day (w.marty.ray)
> 10. Re: Orion Died? (John Sheeley)
> 11. Re: 2A GA Omni A, Omni D at w4rrw (Vern Kunes)
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> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:38:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Don Rasmussen <wb8yqj at yahoo.com>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Need Corsair II knob!
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> Hi Guys,
>
> Can anyone tell me where I can find a single front
> panel knob for the Corsair II mode control? It's the
> same one used for the AF Gain, OFFSET, and most of the
> other front panel controls. Any help on locating one
> of these would be greatly appreciated.
>
> 73 es thanks,
> Don Rasmussen WB8YQJ/6
> Carlsbad, Ca.
>
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> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 02:56:57 -0400
> From: "Mike Hyder --N4NT--" <N4NT_Mike.Hyder at charter.net>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Need Corsair II knob!
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> I've broken one or two knobs. The center tube that goes on the shaft
broke
> when I overtightened the setscrew. By putting a couple of book matches
> between the tube and the outer part, I've been able to shore it up to
> perform just like new (maybe even better).
>
> 73, Mike N4NT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Rasmussen" <wb8yqj at yahoo.com>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 11:38 PM
> Subject: [TenTec] Need Corsair II knob!
>
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where I can find a single front
> > panel knob for the Corsair II mode control? It's the
> > same one used for the AF Gain, OFFSET, and most of the
> > other front panel controls. Any help on locating one
> > of these would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > 73 es thanks,
> > Don Rasmussen WB8YQJ/6
> > Carlsbad, Ca.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 05:17:36 -0700
> From: "denton" <denton at oregontrail.net>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Need Corsair II knob!
> Message-ID: <000d01c33f01$97e99250$0200a8c0 at dentonsp>
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> The bandswitch on my Corsair II has a split in the center tube....try
> putting a band of steel wire around the outside of the tube inside of the
> knob. That works for me.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hyder --N4NT--" <N4NT_Mike.Hyder at charter.net>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 11:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Need Corsair II knob!
>
>
> > I've broken one or two knobs. The center tube that goes on the shaft
> broke
> > when I overtightened the setscrew. By putting a couple of book matches
> > between the tube and the outer part, I've been able to shore it up to
> > perform just like new (maybe even better).
> >
> > 73, Mike N4NT
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Rasmussen" <wb8yqj at yahoo.com>
> > To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 11:38 PM
> > Subject: [TenTec] Need Corsair II knob!
> >
> >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me where I can find a single front
> > > panel knob for the Corsair II mode control? It's the
> > > same one used for the AF Gain, OFFSET, and most of the
> > > other front panel controls. Any help on locating one
> > > of these would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > 73 es thanks,
> > > Don Rasmussen WB8YQJ/6
> > > Carlsbad, Ca.
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:05:11 EDT
> From: W1XV at cs.com
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] FS: TT #285 & #288 6.3 IF filters
> Message-ID: <138.22045d8e.2c318f87 at cs.com>
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>
> I am offering two Ten-tec filters at $65 each including shipping via USPS
> Priority
> mail.....#285 500Hz and #288 1.8kHz for the 6.3mHz IF. I'll sell the pair
> for
> $120.
> If interested please drop me an email or call me in NH at 603-224-5737 no
> later
> than 0130Z. Tnx es 73 Brad W1XV
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 9:44:50 -0400
> From: <nz7c at cox.net>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Need Corsair II knob!
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> Don -
> I recently got a complete set of knowbs from Ten tec for something like
> $15 - including toggle switches - I suggest you give them a call. 73/Tim
> NZ7C
> ============================================================
> From: Don Rasmussen <wb8yqj at yahoo.com>
> Date: 2003/06/29 Sun PM 11:38:32 EDT
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Need Corsair II knob!
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Can anyone tell me where I can find a single front
> panel knob for the Corsair II mode control? It's the
> same one used for the AF Gain, OFFSET, and most of the
> other front panel controls. Any help on locating one
> of these would be greatly appreciated.
>
> 73 es thanks,
> Don Rasmussen WB8YQJ/6
> Carlsbad, Ca.
>
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> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:02:11 -0400
> From: tongaloa <tongaloa at alltel.net>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] 2A GA Omni A, Omni D at w4rrw
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> Stayed til about 2AM, too old for all night. OmniA 20/80 OmniD 40/15
> probably should have swapped though as no filters in D made it a bit
> of a chore copying on crowded 40m CW. I can't imagine anyone
> working FD without QSK. Swapped out homebrew KW T net
> tuner for the MFJ on 40 and man what a difference. Must have been losing
> half
> the output power heating up the MFJ innards.
>
> -bob
> ah7i/w4 op at w4rrw
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:04:06 +0000
> From: "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj at hotmail.com>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Need help: Corsair II meter problem
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> Hi everyone:
>
> I was operating my Corsair II in FD over the weekend (at home) & was
> switching the front panel multimeter around to check forward power, swr
and
> Ic. I flipped the switch to Ic (was in receive mode) and the power supply
> tripped. I turned off the rig, reset the p.s. and turned the rig back on.
> It seems to receive and tx okay (I went ahead and operated in field day
with
> it) but the meter is nonfunctional. On rx it does nothing for signal
> levels. On tx it's dead on tx power, and swr (was running cw so don't
know
> about processor but never use it anyway). In receive, when I switch it
over
> to Ic the meter slams against the left side. Has anyone had this happen?
> Any ideas on what the problem might be?
>
> Thanks & 73,
>
> Rob Atkinson
> K5UJ
> k5uj at hotmail.com
>
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> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:53:25 +0000
> From: "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj at hotmail.com>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Cc: k5uj at hotmail.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Need help: Corsair II meter problem
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> Hi everyone:
>
> I was operating my Corsair II in FD over the weekend (at home) & was
> switching the front panel multimeter around to check forward power, swr
and
> Ic. I flipped the switch to Ic (was in receive mode) and the power supply
> tripped. I turned off the rig, reset the p.s. and turned the rig back on.
> It seems to receive and tx okay (I went ahead and operated in field day
with
> it) but the meter is nonfunctional. On rx it does nothing for signal
> levels. On tx it's dead on tx power, and swr (was running cw so don't
know
> about processor but never use it anyway). In receive, when I switch it
over
> to Ic the meter slams against the left side. Has anyone had this happen?
> Any ideas on what the problem might be?
>
> Thanks & 73,
>
> Rob Atkinson
> K5UJ
> k5uj at hotmail.com
>
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> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:36:35 -0500
> From: "w.marty.ray" <w.marty.ray at delphi.com>
> To: <TenTec_Orion at yahoogroups.com>, <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] Orion at field day
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> Hello, all. I managed to get in a few hours at the local field day site
this
> year. I enjoyed a few minutes on the K2 on 20m cw, then I went to the 40m
cw
> station for a while. For several years, the 40m cw station has been using
a
> Heathkit (can't remember the model number, but it's the transceiver with
> digital readout...5400?). Nice older rig, good qsk, but it was suffering
> severe front end overload and I had to back the rf gain way back. We were
> getting overload from both strong signals on the cw band and also from the
> 40m ssb station next to us. One of the guys there was thinking about
buying
> an Orion, so I asked him if he wanted to test drive mine. He said "sure!",
> so I went home and brought it back. We hooked it up on 40m cw and the
> results were incredible! No front end overload...not even from the 40ssb
> station right next to us. (The 40m cw and 40m ssb dipoles used a common
end
> support, with the antennas at right angles. We couldn't even tell they
were
> on the air until t!
> hey came over to ask us if we were having as much trouble with
> inter-station interference as they were having.)Awesome selectivity.
>
> I was curious how the Orion was going to work in tough conditions, now I
> know. Everyone that used the Orion was impressed. I'm not sure how many of
> those guys have experience with high-end radios, but I have used several
> decent radios in contests including the IC781, FT1000D & MP, TS940 (still
> have mine), Omni VI+ (my other radio at home), K2 (sold mine to help fund
> the Orion), TS850, and a few others I can't recall right now. Now, I'm not
> going to say I can remember exactly how each radio performed and rank
them,
> but I can tell a good radio when I hear one (as well as one that has some
> issues). The Orion is definately a top performer. We were working weak qrp
> stations with S9+30db stations less than 1kHz away. As a matter of fact, I
> found that I had to open up the bandwidth a little because I could get
'too
> close' to another station's frequency without even knowing he was
there...no
> matter how loud the other station. We saw everything from S-3 to 40+db
over
> S-9. I had to gi!
> ve each operator a quick tutorial before getting started. I had a couple
of
> guys ask me how to use the rf gain and/or attenuation. I told them not to
> worry about it, you won't need it! I did try turning on the preamp just
for
> fun and I could detect some overload and some IMD, but that was to be
> expected.
>
> The agc was interesting, too. I normally use the PROG setting with the
> threshold near minimum, but the factory MED setting worked best for field
> day. I never use the FAST setting. It seems really harsh...the band noise
is
> just too much, too quick. Perhaps it has its use, but I don't know what it
> would be.
>
> The transmitter was great as well. The SWR climbed to 2:1 later in the
> evening, and the Orion never had a problem with it. QSK is lightning fast.
I
> ended up adding 15% delay and still had two ops comment on how fast and
> smooth it was.
>
> Up until this weekend, I had yet to really use the binaural receive
feature.
> I am not a big fan of extra fancy features that really aren't value added.
> If it doesn't help get the job done, it is just in the way. That is how I
> had classified the binaural rx. I tried it when I first got the radio, was
> unimpressed, and disabled it 'til now. I thought it would be one of those
> bells and whistles that never was really useful, but I changed my mind.
The
> first op to use the Orion wanted to try out the binaural rx, so I showed
him
> how to set it up. Later, when I sat down at the rig, (after everyone had a
> chance to try it out first!) I found a clear frequency and called CQ. I
> immediately realized that the binaural feature was going to be turned on a
> lot at home. I managed to generate a decent sized pileup a few times and
it
> REALLY helped to separate the signals! I was pleasantly surprised.
>
> Now for a couple of complaints. I don't want to anybody to accuse me
saying
> the Orion is perfect. 8) When adjusting the bandwidth, I have a tendency
> to bump the adjacent H/L CUT knob. I guess that really isn't a fault, per
> se, but still annoying. Also, the cw sidetone seemed to have a funny sound
> that I can only describe as a 'rattly overdriven speaker'. It wasn't very
> pronounced, but detectable. The sidetone af gain was set at 39 and the
pitch
> was changed throughout the evening. (btw my Orion has been back for the
> mods). I haven't noticed it at home, so I thought it was rfi. I backed the
> power all the way down, but it was still there. I'll have to check this
out
> more carefully at home. One last observation. With the antenna connected
to
> ANT1, we heard a LOT of signals on ANT2 (with no antenna). The signals
were
> down about 60dB, as judged by the S meter. (ie: S9+35db on ANT1 and S-5 on
> ANT2). I don't remember seeing a spec for this. Perhaps someone can
comment.
>
> Even with a few gripes, this radio is a huge success for TenTec. I am
really
> happy with it and am ready for CQWW, Sweepstakes, and the 160m contests
this
> fall/winter!
>
> I was a little hesitant to bring it out, but I'm glad I did.
>
> Summary: Bullet-proof front end. Great selectivity, awesome dymanic range,
> excellent QSK. In general, a great contest radio!
>
> Regards,
>
> Marty Ray, N9SE
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:44:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John Sheeley <wb4qda at yahoo.com>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Died?
> Message-ID: <20030630154420.85186.qmail at web11502.mail.yahoo.com>
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>
> Jim
> I have had the same problems a time or two.After the
> flash falure and master reset .I just turned the Orion
> on and off a few times . Then I attempted to
> reflashed it . So far after atempting to flash 4 or 5
> times it will finally take the firmware reinstall . at
> least it has for me .
> 73
> John de WB4QDA
>
>
> --- Jim Reid <jimr.reid at verizon.net> wrote:
> > Yes, just a few minutes after I turned it on this
> > afternoon,
> > the view screen went blank! Turned the rig off,
> > then on
> > again after a few minutes. Nothing. Well, the
> > only buttons
> > illuminated were TX on VFOB; the BW light, and the
> > LOCK
> > light for VFOB. No button would respond to a push,
> > nor
> > pressing the illuminated buttons would do nothing.
> >
> > So, off again, this time hold down the "MainRX/TX"
> > button
> > while turning on the radio to perform a Master
> > Reset.
> > It did, came up on 20 meters; I pushed the 40
> > meter band
> > button, started to tune up to my frequency----blap,
> > and
> > the screen went blank agian. And back to the same
> > buttons
> > illuminated as above.
> >
> > So, I decided to go back to the update program and
> > reinstall
> > the 1.346 firmware again. Program wouldn't run
> > because of
> > XP, I guess. So unclicked the box which reads "Stop
> > on Error"
> > as that has worked to perform the updates in the
> > past.
> > This time the program started, but then stopped
> > with
> > only 65 lines into the Orion; but every few seconds
> > the
> > line count here on the PC would go up by 10 lines
> > count,
> > but no change on the Orion display. So I waited
> > awhile,
> > with nothing happening on the Orion, so turned its'
> > power
> > off again. Tried again, same result. Tried
> > another Master
> > Reset......and, no matter how long I sit here
> > holding
> > down the button, the display just reads, "System
> > Loading....".
> >
> > So, guess it is back in the box, and back to
> > Sevierville
> > for a check out. Wonder what happened??
> >
> > Any ideas? I probably messed up when I turned the
> > rig OFF when it wouldn't continue the firmware
> > reinstall,
> > or maybe that was just another symptom of whatever
> > failed inside the radio.
> >
> > 73, Jim KH7M
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:48:03 -0400
> From: "Vern Kunes" <vern at mantlelamp.com>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 2A GA Omni A, Omni D at w4rrw
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>
> Most Tees are lossy into larghe SWRs. For my 135' flattop for Field Day, I
> used a link coupled tuner, but unfortunately, it just wasn't enough for 10
> meters, but tuned 20, 40, and 80 fine (using 450 ohm ladderline for
> multiband operation). If you really want to cut your losses at hi SWR, the
L
> tuner is still the tops. That's what I use at my base station (it just
> happens to be a Ten Tec 229!). Good luck. Vern N2YZS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa at alltel.net>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:02 AM
> Subject: [TenTec] 2A GA Omni A, Omni D at w4rrw
>
>
> > Stayed til about 2AM, too old for all night. OmniA 20/80 OmniD 40/15
> > probably should have swapped though as no filters in D made it a bit
> > of a chore copying on crowded 40m CW. I can't imagine anyone
> > working FD without QSK. Swapped out homebrew KW T net
> > tuner for the MFJ on 40 and man what a difference. Must have been losing
> > half
> > the output power heating up the MFJ innards.
> >
> > -bob
> > ah7i/w4 op at w4rrw
> >
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