[TenTec] Icom 7800
Ron Notarius WN3VAW
wn3vaw at fyi.net
Thu May 29 17:22:26 EDT 2003
Gee Tommy, all you got was a T-Shirt? You got ripped!
My first time through ICOM on Friday, they were out of shirts, but I was
given a styrofoam "piglet" to put atop my HT's rubber duck... which was
swiped about 2 minutes later by one of the Kenwood guys (he was going to
paint it black and stick K's logo on it), who then reneged on HIS promise of
a T-Shirt.
But when I went through late on Saturday, got another piglet, a smile but
not shirts until the presentation was over. Guy doing the talking was
holding up the new ARRL "Expermental Methods in RF Design" book, asked if
anyone knew the name of the predecessor -- I blurted out "Solid State Design
for the Radio Amateur," he handed me the book and a T-Shirt. OK, LAST years
shirt, but what the heck...
Oh yes, they also told me that the reason the "IC-7800" was behind
plexiglass was that it was a non-working model, just brought in to show off.
Presumably meant to be an Orion-killer. Reminded me of all the times, way
back when, when DEC or Honeywell or whomever would announce a new mini- or
mainframe-computer line, IBM would counter the announcement with a
competitive machine of their own, the competition's orders dried up... and
IBM never got around to actually making their box. This was the beginning
of the term "vaporware," which is all the IC-7800 will be until they
actually can produce a working one.
And that's all I have to say on THAT (want a chocolate?)
73, ron wn3vaw
"I would like to do 3000 more" -- Sportscaster Guy Junker on his 3000th
"Sportsbeat" show.
The next night, after his 3001st show, for reasons left unclear, Fox Sports
Net Pittsburgh declined to renew his contract & fired him.
(Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Saturday, 17 May 2003)
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From: "WD4K" <WD4K2 at charter.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:31 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Icom 7800
I am seriously curious what prompts the comments of "what a radio" about the
Icom 7800. While in Dayton I visited the Icom booth, looked at the "box"
behind Plexiglas where it could not be touched, got a free T-shirt and
talked to the Icom rep. I was upfront and asked in a pleasant businesslike
manner of the rep point blank: "why should I trade my Orion for a new 7800?"
Expecting some good info, all I heard was, "you get what you pay for". I
asked about the specs and the price, I was told price unknown but
anticipated about $8000. No specs. I asked again for specs to support the
Orion to 7800 switch and was stonewalled with the same..."well, you get what
you pay for". I said, "that's it?" The rep walked off to talk to someone
else and all I got was this t-shirt and flyer.
So, my question for the "7800 wow" group is. What exactly makes this a wow
radio?...key word being radio. Radio defined for the purposes of tx and rx
and the performance of those tasks.
Can anyone support the reasons to buy this $8000 rig..at two to four times
the price of other fine radios such as the Orion, 756Pro series, Mark V,
etc? I really would like to hear something solid other than brand loyalty
and the pretty video. So, how about it guys, a David Letterman style top ten
list of "reasons to buy the $8000--Icom 7800 over all other radios" There
has to be something really spectacular somewhere to justify these comments
and price. Apparently some of you know something to justify these 7800
praises. How about sharing with the group? 73, Tommy
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1. Fw: The New Icom 7800 (Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX)
2. RE: [TenTec_Orion] Continue the Yahoo Orion Reflector?
(Jorge Gomes)
3. OMNI VI+ clock set? (Dave Bowker)
4. For Sale Omni V (Jack Wiebe)
5. Re: Yahoo groups and SPAM (Duane Grotophorst)
6. Re: Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746
7. Re: SPAM, athletes foot, and other undesirable afflictions
8. Re: Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746 (Bill KB9IV)
9. Re: Fw: The New Icom 7800 (WILLIAM MANSEY)
10. Re: Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746 (WILLIAM MANSEY)
11. Re: Fw: The New Icom 7800
12. Re: Orion Issues
13. Re: RE: Experience with UPS and ham rigs (KE4TEG)
14. Re: Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746 (Ben K8DIT)
15. Re: Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746 (Dave Kamp, KW0D)
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Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 20:16:51 -0500
From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX <RMcGraw at Blomand.Net>
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] Fw: The New Icom 7800
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From: "MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS" <JWLEE at WT.NET>
To: "BALLINGER TOM" <TBALL1 at GTE.NET>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 5:21 PM
Subject: The New Icom 7800
> All,
>
> That is a video screen and those s-meters are digital. It lists for
> $7995.00 and will street around $6000.00. What a radio!
>
> Jim/WB4GWX/AAM6TTX/AAV6UX
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:34:28 +0100
From: "Jorge Gomes" <jaagomes at clix.pt>
To: <TenTec_Orion at yahoogroups.com>, <tentec at contesting.com>
Subject: [TenTec] RE: [TenTec_Orion] Continue the Yahoo Orion Reflector?
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Jim,
It was kind of you to ask.
My vote? Keep the Orion list separate.
Main reasons? It allows a well focused debate and lets Ten-Tec monitor, in
an effective way, the real world opinions, difficulties and reactions of
real users. Everybody wins...
In a year or so, after we all progress along the learning curve, things will
probably change and a single list may be enough.
Just my two cents, from an European perspective.
Best 73 al around,
Jorge
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:32:45 -0400
From: "Dave Bowker" <dbowker at mail.sjv.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Subject: [TenTec] OMNI VI+ clock set?
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"Model 563 Addendum Regarding Option 1 Upgrade" is attached. I don't have
an Opt-1 upgrade, so I can't be of further assistance.
73, Dave, K1FK
Fort Kent, ME
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Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:59:58 -0700
From: "Jack Wiebe" <jwiebe at telus.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Subject: [TenTec] For Sale Omni V
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Omni V with following filters: 455 IF- 2.4Khz, 1.8Khz, 500 Hz, 250Hz
9Mhz IF- 1.8Khz and 500Hz
Includes model 301 rotary encoder, manual and spare set of final
transistors. Unit is a 9 out of 10 in physical appearance. It does have one
very intermittent problem that I will discuss with serious buyer.
Asking $800.00 USF. Tel: (604) 420-1075 or email: ve7cf at rac.ca
Jack, VE7CF
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 18:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Duane Grotophorst <n9dg at yahoo.com>
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Yahoo groups and SPAM
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While Yahoo my not be an angel for their methods and
practices they don't deserve to be totally maligned
either. The key is to gain a basic understanding how
these "free" providers like Yahoo and others like it
work. Once you've done that they can be a GOOD TOOL to
FIGHT spam.
Some key guidelines I use:
1) Have multiple email accounts and providers, but
whatever you do be HIGHLY restrictive of how you use
your ISP provided email address. NEVER use it for
public discussion boards like this one. Instead use a
free provider like Yahoo and/or one of the others like
it for posting messages on public discussion boards; -
because your publicly exposed email address WILL get
to spammers eventually no matter what you do
otherwise.
2) Do not use a POP3 email client with those free
email providers for reading emails from discussions
boards like this one, instead use browser based email.
This provides you an additional layer of abstraction
and in some cases an additional degree of protection
from viruses. Use their tools for email filtering as
well, they are actually USEFULL for blocking spam.
Also DO NOT use any of the free email provider's
address book features.
3) If you have a Yahoo account you won't get spam from
them when you join Yahoo discussion groups. Also as
pointed out already, much of the spam that looks like
it is coming from Yahoo are in fact from spoofed
source addresses.
4) As for the personal data that Yahoo and others like
want,.... well,.... you really don't need to make it
particularly truthful or even complete now do you??
Provide totally bogus info for a third free total
'spam bait' email account that you may want to have.
5) If the spam gets totally out of hand, just ditch
the free email account(s) and start another.
6) Never open spam that didn't get filtered out by the
email provider, first thing to do when going into the
inbox is to select and then delete all of the spam, it
is almost always obvious which ones they are. If you
open any of it you may actually be acknowledging the
validity of your email address. Do not use any 'auto
preview' features if they are available either.
7) Use a firewall program, - even if using a dialup
connection. Learn how it works and set it
aggressively, this gives you some additional
protection for worms and Trojans. I've had good luck
with Zone Alarm, and there is a freeware version of it
too. It allows you to explicitly set which programs
have Internet access. It will not let any new
application access the network unless I specifically
give it the OK to do so.
8) Use a Ad/cookie blocking/management program, learn
how it works and set it aggressively. I'm having
pretty good luck with AdSubtract; again there is a
freeware version of it. I only allow cookies from a
very few specific sites, - ALL others are blocked. It
has done a great job of blocking pop-up ads. It speeds
up my Internet access to boot because I'm no longer
wasting bandwidth on ads.
9) You do have a current and updated antivirus
program, don't you??
10) You are keeping up to date with the OS and browser
security patches as well, right??
Duane
N9DG
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 21:32:31 EDT
From: AC5E at aol.com
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746
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HI Chip: I know about those absences from ham radio - I was out from ca 1957
to 1989 myself. But in this area we have something called a "rig shootout."
Everyone brings their new rig, hooks it to the other side of the antenna
switch, and we switch back and forth between (usually) one if my Omni VI's
and
whatever they brought.
I have stacked a native Omni VI up against the '746. No contest. Buy the VI.
73 Pete Allen AC5E
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 21:43:43 EDT
From: AC5E at aol.com
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] SPAM, athletes foot, and other undesirable afflictions
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One of the best things I ever did was to to <A
HREF="www.grc.com">www.grc.com</A> ( Gibson Research
home page) and do the "test my shields, probe my ports" deal. Read all about
it,
then do it.
There's a good bit of "keep your information private" stuff on the site,
and
"Unplug and Pray" and the other freeware anti-intruder, anti-ActiveX
control,
and other anti-anti programs that are highly recommended. And which work
well
on the fifteen or so 'net enabled computers I take care of.
Norton gets cussed and discussed quite a bit, but an anti-virus program is
almost necessary these days, and I haven't found anything better. This
confusor
runs Norton Internet Security Pro, System Works, Zone Alarm Pro, and grc
says
it's in full stealth mode. The programs all work together quite well, with
most of the intruder flags from IS Pro, and a few from ZA. Good. If
somebody
with a legitimate reason and a badge wants to look they are welcom.
Otherwise,
intruders keep out.
I hope this helps someone.
73 Pete Allen AC5E
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:57:44 -0500
From: "Bill KB9IV" <wmarvin at hickorytech.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746
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Hi Chip,
With the price drop of the 746 Pro & PS you can't go wrong..........much
better than the 746. The K2 is
very pedestrian on SSB, more of a CW rig. The Jupiter is a nice all around
radio. Omni 6's are overpriced
on the market. Watch out for overpriced 746's.........$800 tops.
Good luck Chip!
Bill KB9IV
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From: "Chip Pardini" <chip.pardini at sbcglobal.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 1:51 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746
> I am just getting back into HAM radio after 25 years of inactivity. I am
> trying to decide between an IC-746 and the Ten Tec OMNI VI with option 1.
> The 746 includes the 9MHz 1.8 SSB filter and the 250 Hz CW filter options.
I
> am primarily a SSB operator with limited CW skills after all these years.
I
> do plan to use a Command Technology 1250 Amp. Am I being smart looking at
> these rigs versus something newer like the K2 or the Juipter??? In any
event
> I welcome input, bias opinions etc.
>
>
>
> Best 73's
>
>
>
> Chip
>
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:07:14 -0400
From: "WILLIAM MANSEY" <wa2pvk at msn.com>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Fw: The New Icom 7800
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Without sounding TOO cynical - - - Buy one for $6K NOW and then cry in your
beer in several months when the PRO version comes out for $5.5K !!!
(including a FREE dust rag) Those who do not study history make the same
mistakes as history (or words to that effect!) Just kidding! BUT it is not
as if this has never happened before! 73, Bill
wa2pvk at msn.com Please visit my home page: http://mysite.verizon.net/wa2pvk
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:23:19 -0400
From: "WILLIAM MANSEY" <wa2pvk at msn.com>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746
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Hello Chip, It depends on what you intend to use the rig for. If you have
a limited budget and can only afford ONE rig for now - The IC-746 is pretty
decent. It provides the internal tuner for HF use and the rig also covers 6
and 2 meters. I did not get any optional filters with mine but did find that
the twin passband tuning was quite effective. It is NOT a bad rig -
especially at the prices that a new one can be had at now! If you want one
rig to do a lot of things - then a rig like the 746 is a good choice.
Personally I prefer separate rigs for HF and VHF. For superior HF (only)
performance you would do well with either an Omni VI or Jupiter. THERE! I
think I did a great job of NOT answering your question! Sorry about that.
Hopefully, however, this information will actually provide SOME help.
wa2pvk at msn.com Please visit my home page: http://mysite.verizon.net/wa2pvk
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 23:00:13 EDT
From: AC5E at aol.com
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Fw: The New Icom 7800
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Message: 11
$7,995 translates to roughly 940,000 yen at 117 to the buck, and the new
Icom will probably list for 950,000 to 1 Million Yen in Tokyo. And be at
about
the same elevated price point in dollars over here.
The exchange rate has gone from 138 to the buck down to 117 and nobody
really
knows how much further the dollar will fall. Some traders I deal with tell
me 90 or even less isn't entirely out of the question, it just depends on
the
market, our Treasury Department, and the Bank of Japan.
But assuming a discounted price of 800,000 Yen - at 140/1 that's $5,800. At
130/1 that's $6,150. At 120/1, that's $6,700. At 110/1, that's $7,300. At
100/1 a cool eight grand. And at 90 yen to the buck it would take $8,900
George
Washingtons to equal that many yen.
So how much a 7800 costs at HRO and AES depends on the exchange rate at the
time of introduction, and will fluctuate with the exchange rate and market
conditions. Lower when sales are slow, higher when the yen goes up (down on
the
exchange rate) or when demand picks up. Until someone is ready to fill your
order the street price is pure speculation.
73 Pete Allen AC5E
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 20:36:52 -0700
From: k6se at juno.com
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] Re: Orion Issues
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After my 500 and 250Hz filters changed today from the way they were
acting previously, I decided to do a master reset to see if that would
help -- it did! I also did a user reset at the same time, so I don't
know for sure what cured things -- resetting the menus to the factory
defaults or resetting the user things to the defaults, or both.
Anyway, now the filters tune like they did before. Additionally, all of
the AGC selections now act more like you would expect then to. Don't
know how that bug got in there, but the reset definitely improved things.
Even NR has some (a little) effectiveness with a 100Hz BW.
I enabled both filters and set their CF offsets to where they seemed to
be right previously. I did not change the factory default sidetone/spot
pitch of 670 Hz and noticed that there was no apparent attenuation in
either filter. The Ten-Tec filters have more insertion loss than the
wide ones and Ten-Tec explained to me that they follow the narrow filters
with an amplifier to make up for that loss.
Then I discovered something not mentioned by Ten-Tec, nor have I heard it
on this reflector:
If you change the sidetone/spot pitch more than about 100Hz from its
default of 670Hz, you begin to notice some attenuation from the narrow
filters -- moreso on the 250 than the 500Hz filter. Aha! Here's why:
Although you can center the filter offset in the filter menu for for a
pitch of 670Hz and at the same time you can switch between UCW and LCW
with no change, when you choose to set up the offsets while using a
different sidetone/spot pitch (and try to make UCW and LCW equal), a
different offset is necessary to keep the xtal filter centered on the DSP
filter. When the sidetone/pitch is set different than the 670Hz default,
the CF offset will be different. If you set the sidetone/spot pitch to,
say, 550Hz and you adjust the CF offset for maximum signal (you can use
the S-meter for this if you have a steady signal source), when you switch
to the other sideband (i.e., go from UCW to LCW), the signal will be much
weaker on the other sideband. Previously I was trying to tune the offset
for equal signal strength in UCW and LCW (and ending up with the correct
offset for a pitch of 670Hz), therefore the xtal filters were not
centered in either DSP filter passband and the S-meter reading would
decrease when I went from the 500Hz filter to the 1000Hz filter (and much
more noticeable when going from the 500 to the 250Hz filter.
I would like to set up everything on CW for a sidetone/spot pitch setting
of 310Hz (the lowest the Orion allows), even if it meant I could only use
UCW or LCW (but not both), but the limit of +/-250Hz CF adjustment in the
menu is not enough to be able to accomplish this.
So here's the problem:
Something has to be done so that the CF offset adjustment remains the
same when the user changes the sidetone/spot pitch from 670Hz, and he can
still switch between UCW and LCW and not notice any change in the signal
level/pitch. I'm not sure that this can easily be achieved with the
Orion because it would necessitate something akin to moving the the
center of the DSP filter passband up or down as needed to follow the
change the user makes from the default pitch of 670Hz.
Meanwhile I'll set the pitch as low as I can (possibly 500Hz?) and tune
the CFs for max signal on either UCW or LCW and forget about using the
other CW sideband.
BTW, the hardware blanker now works with narrow xtal filter bandwidths,
so the master reset fixed that problem also.
If your Orion seems to take a nosedive and, for some unexpained reason,
something doesn't seem to work as well as it did before, try doing a
reset by holding the MAIN RX/TX button in while powering up.
To be continued.....
73, de Earl, K6SE
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 23:54:13 -0400
From: "KE4TEG" <ke4teg at bellsouth.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] RE: Experience with UPS and ham rigs
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Message: 13
I have a large amount of UPS experience, from simple 300VA PC UPSs, to whole
room 25KVA units, to whole building UPSs with generator backup. One can not
get away with using one of the small self contained UPSs with a 100 watt
radio without having AC power or a genny running main power at all times. It
is good for smoothing out the ups and downs and brown outs from a genny. If
the genny goes down or you lose AC mains, the little 7 amp battery inside
the UPS can not handle the load of the DC power supply and radio. It is just
simple math, one does not have enough current from the 7 amp 12 volt
battery. The UPS is taking the 12 volts at 7 amps and making AC from it,
powering a DC power supply, to power a 100 watt radio. We are way short of
the current needed from a 12 volt battery to get over the power outage.
One way to help this is to get a 600VA or higher PC UPS, unplug it from any
power source, and remove the internal battery (or batteries). Now follow the
battery wires back into the unit and find a good place to tap in and upgrade
the wire size and add a fuse. Use enough wire to get safely outside the UPS.
Now add the proper number of 12VDC automotive batteries in series or series
parallel (depends on whether you need 12 or 24 volts). Now you have a UPS
that will run your the DC power supply though a generator fuel refilling as
well as provide smoother brown out free power to the DC power supply.
During the last VHF/UHF contest, Cliff (KD4GT) and I ran a Best 1.2KVA UPS
with two 12 VDC batteries off a genny to power a 800 Watt 120VAC 6 Meter
Amp, DC power supply, and Ten-Tec 526 6N2 radio. It worked great and we even
operated full power during generator refueling. The real bonus was that the
UPS kept the Amp at full tilt during the lag time of the genny ramping up at
Amp key down. In fact, the Amp preformed better on the UPS/Genny combo then
it does at my home where I have an upgraded electrical service.
UPSs are very useful for Field Day and other remote power requirements where
a generator is going to be used. Afraid to plug a desk top PC into a genny
for logging, put a UPS between the genny and the PC. Field Day rules have no
problem with one doing this with a PC or that nice AC powered 200W Home Rig.
The power source is still the generator. With the smaller VA UPSs upgraded
to use external 12VDC automotive batteries, be sure to start with already
fully charged batteries. The small trickle chargers in the PC UPSs can not
bring weak batteries up to full charge over a contest weekend when asked to
run during outages and smooth out power.
Hope this was helpful. 73 Keith
de KE4TEG
----- Original Message -----
From: <AC5E at aol.com>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 3:23 PM
Subject: [TenTec] RE: Experience with UPS and ham rigs
> Since it's been suggested - I have tried several "small" 375-425 VA UPS
on
> an Omni VI - usually to allow us to operate FD while the generators were
> shut down. The setups were Astron 35's powering the rig and a keyer, and
the
> usual result was a blown UPS fuse within a few seconds of changeover - and
in
> one case a well fried UPS.
>
> I think the problem is with the really poor output of the cheaper UPS,
since
> a couple of "pure sine wave" 1500 VA UPS did quite well. But those big
boy's
> are a long way from cheap.
>
> And, one more thing. You definitely want to proved forced air ventilation
for
> any unsealed lead acid battery you might be using. A little accumulated
> hydrogen makes a big bang.
>
> 73 Pete Allen AC5E
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:10:08 -0700
From: "Ben K8DIT" <benk8dit at serv.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746
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Chip, This must be a trick question on the Ten Tec reflector.
So here's a trick answer. In a shootout between 10 of each of the two, the
Ten Tec operators were by far better looking and smarter. The smartest and
best looking also had a Ten Tec amplifier. Icom ops were nervous
showed excessive hair loss, and indecisiveness when choosing from their
lunch menus. Ten Tec ops were confident, showed their smiles more often and
had more fun. Ten Tecs suffered more from such ailments as contestitis,
dxczema and ragchew. While Icom users suffered more from swr envy, g5rvia
and CCRemia. Just the Ten Tec QSK will cure most of those. You may want to
check with your doctor before choosing. I have selected the Omni 6+/Opt1
which cured my hiccoughs and improved my cw
from just sitting in front of it for extended periods.
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Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 00:31:37 -0500
From: "Dave Kamp, KW0D" <kw0d at netexpress.net>
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI with option 1 versus IC-746
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Hi Chip!
Having several Icoms (one of which is a 746) and a VI Option 1, I vote for
the Option 1. Simpler to operate, sounds better, and hears when the 746
doesn't, but most of all, hears the deep-down-in-the-dirt AND the S9+80
without straining your ears one iota.
Cheers!
DK :-)
At 11:51 PM 05/25/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>I am just getting back into HAM radio after 25 years of inactivity. I am
>trying to decide between an IC-746 and the Ten Tec OMNI VI with option 1.
>The 746 includes the 9MHz 1.8 SSB filter and the 250 Hz CW filter options.
I
>am primarily a SSB operator with limited CW skills after all these years. I
>do plan to use a Command Technology 1250 Amp. Am I being smart looking at
>these rigs versus something newer like the K2 or the Juipter??? In any
event
>I welcome input, bias opinions etc.
>
>
>
>Best 73's
>
>
>
>Chip
>
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73's from KW0D Dave in LeClaire, Iowa
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