[TenTec] Bla, Bla, Bla....

Thu Nov 20 19:27:33 EST 2003

OK. Sounds like that's what this forum is all about, so....can anyone give me their two cents on the new Argonaut V. Like is it worth the price? New owners, are you happy with it?

"J. D." <duffyb01 at fuse.net> wrote:I'm not a lawyer, but it seems once you have posted your comments in a
public newsgroup, reflector, etc. it becomes public domain. 

Personally, I'm getting tired of the "my radio is better than your radio"
discussions and people on the outside that always have this tremendous
insight into the inner workings of companies without of course working for
that company.

This is a TenTec reflector. Can we start talking about TenTec radios again?

Duffy
www.wb8nut.com 

-------Original Message-------

From: Gary Hoffman; tentec at contesting.com
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:05:28 PM
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] FW: [Icom] RE: Icom Japan IC-7800 announcement

George,

I can see why you don't want them cross-posted.

But, an old war horse like you ought to know by now not to post anything,
anywhere, if there are people who you wish not to see it.

hehehehe...better than the Orion eh ? I'm looking forward to the responses
to that one.

73 de Gary, AA2IZ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George, W5YR" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] FW: [Icom] RE: Icom Japan IC-7800 announcement

> The following has been cross-posted to this reflector by "RM"
> (kamar at inr.net) without my permission. These remarks were intended for
the
> Icom reflector only. They represent my opinion which I was not intending
to
> share with the subscribers of this reflector.
>
> I do not appreciate my postings being copied in this manner. Whoever "RM"
> is - and I wouldn't give my name or call either if I pulled such a trick -
> he should be ashamed of himself for presuming to make this posting without
> my permission.. While not illegal, such practices are notably unethical
and
> onerous.
>
> 73/72, George
> Amateur Radio W5YR - the Yellow Rose of Texas
> Fairview, TX 30 mi NE of Dallas in Collin county EM13QE
> "Starting the 58th year and it just keeps getting better!"
> w5yr at att.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "RM" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:23 AM
> Subject: [TenTec] FW: [Icom] RE: Icom Japan IC-7800 announcement
>
>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: icom-admin at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-admin at mailman.qth.net] On
> > Behalf Of George, W5YR
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 15:17
> > To: icom at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Icom] RE: Icom Japan IC-7800 announcement
> >
> > Icom's strategy here seems fairly open:
> >
> > 1. develop a basic architecture adaptable to the commercial/military
> markets
> > where the real money is.
> >
> > 2. build and sell a first generation to the amateur market to prepare
them
> > for the second generation, and recoup development $$ by using the
initial
> > model to replace the 1000+ IC-781's used throughout the world primarily
in
> > government service.
> >
> > 3. meld the affordable elements of the 7800 with those of the PRO2 and
> > produce the PRO3, selling in the amateur market for a street price of
> around
> > $3000. With the essence of the 7800 front end and superb display and the
> > PRO2 DSP capabilities - enhanced with still newer and faster DSP
> chipsets -
> > the PRO3 would outperform the ORION, the K2 and any other existing HF
> design
> > in that market.
> >
> > Only educated guesswork on my part, but obviously Icom understands the
> > amateur marketplace as well or better than any other company. Yaesu and
> > Kenwood seem to be rapidly seeking disengagement from the amateur world
> what
> > with their stubborn resistance to bringing out DSP IF radios, the only
> > architecture which will survive the next few years.
> >
> > A few of our fortunate brethren will buy and enjoy the 7800 and thereby
> > generate demand for a similar product more affordably priced. Hence, the
> > stage is being set for a PRO3 which will be the radio of choice for
every
> > amateur radio activity involving desk-top equipment.
> >
> > 73/72, George
> > Amateur Radio W5YR - the Yellow Rose of Texas Fairview, TX 30 mi NE of
> > Dallas in Collin county EM13QE "Starting the 58th year and it just keeps
> > getting better!"
> > w5yr at att.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Davies, Doug A FOR:EX" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 12:27 PM
> > Subject: [Icom] RE: Icom Japan IC-7800 announcement
> >
> >
> > > Regarding the pricing for the new IC-7800, one has to wonder just what
> > > market these people are targeting. I would bet that less than one
> percent
> > > of licensed amateurs would be in a financial position to even
consider
> > > spending that kind of money on a piece of ham gear. It's simply
absurd.
> > If
> > > ICOM is hanging it's economic hat on equipment in that price range,
they
> > > would be well advised to do a bit more market research. Or, maybe
they
> > are
> > > only going to manufacture 12 of these radios and then say that they've
> > sold
> > > out due to heavy market demand .
> > >
> > > If I had that kind of money, I'd buy an IFR service monitor and use it
> to
> > > maintain the radios I have. Much better use of funds, in my opinion.
> > >
> > > Doug VA7DD
> > > ----
> > > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> > > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.315 MHz
> > > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
> >
> > ----
> > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> > Icom Users Net: Sundays, 1700Z, 14.315 MHz
> > Icom FAQ: http://www.qsl.net/icom/
> >
> >
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