[TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email reflector

[David McClafferty]

My Yahoo email account dumped this message in my Bulk
folder as possible SPAM. I mark it as not SPAM but I
can't see why it picked this message out of many
similar ones.

Dave, VE1ADH

 --- Steve Baron - KB3MM <SteveBaron at StarLinX.com>
wrote: > This is such an important issue, one would
think
> that Ten Tec would be
> interested in the Orion and get the list moved.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eric Scace K3NA" <eric at k3na.org>
> To: "Bill Tippett W4ZV" <btippett at alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: "TenTec mailing list" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 03:50
> Subject: [TenTec] Yahoo and the Orion email
> reflector
> 
> 
> > Hi Bill --
> >
> >    Yahoo's privacy policy has improved over the
> last couple of years.  But
> this is part of Yahoo's privacy statement that I
> object
> > to:
> >
> > "Yahoo! does not rent, sell, or share personal
> information about you ...
> except ... under the following circumstances:
> > We provide the information to trusted partners who
> work on behalf of or
> with Yahoo! under confidentiality agreements. These
> > companies may use your personal information to
> help Yahoo! communicate
> with you about offers from Yahoo! and our marketing
> partners.
> > "
> >
> >    And here: "Web pages may contain electronic
> images (called a
> "single-pixel GIF" or "web beacon") that allow a web
> site to count
> > users who have visited that page or to access
> certain cookies. Yahoo! uses
> web beacons in the following ways:   Yahoo! uses web
> > beacons to conduct research on behalf of certain
> partners on their web
> sites and also for auditing purposes."  And further:
> "Yahoo!
> > uses web beacons to access Yahoo! cookies inside
> and outside our network
> of web sites"
> >
> >    I object to Yahoo providing my personal
> information to third parties,
> and to Yahoo! accessing cookies not related to its
> specific
> > web site.
> >
> >    While I would dearly love to participate in the
> Orion email reflector,
> I'm not going to lend support to a company which
> insists
> > on providing information that it collects to
> outsiders with no opt-out
> ability.  And there is now no way to participate in
> a
> > Yahoo-controlled email reflector without
> registering and providing this
> personal information.
> >
> >    The reason that I raise the matter here is that
> I would like the list
> moderator to reconsider hosting the list elsewhere;
> e.g.,
> > on the same service that is hosting the TenTec
> reflector.
> >
> > -- Eric K3NA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com
> > [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of
> Bill Tippett
> > Sent: 2003 September 23 Tuesday 10:17
> > To: tentec at contesting.com
> > Subject: [TenTec] Yahoo, etc
> >
> >
> >          Before everyone totally badmouths Yahoo,
> here is a
> > copy of the note I sent to Eric K3NA.
> >
> >                                          73,  Bill
>  W4ZV
> >
> > N1JM:
> >  >Once you sign up, there is a way to opt out of
> all that marketing stuff.
> >
> >          Eric, this is true.  I opened a separate
> Yahoo E-mail account
> > (free) because I had the same concerns as you
> (i.e. getting spam from
> > Yahoo).  But...
> >
> > 1.  I opted out of all the marketing options.
> > 2.  I never get anything from Yahoo directly.
> > 3.  Yahoo has one of the most effective spam
> filters around...so much
> > so that I now forward all mail to an old
> spam-compromised address at my
> > current ISP to Yahoo, and 90-95% of it is caught
> by their "Bulk" spam
> > filter.  What spam remains can be tagged as spam
> which they use to improve
> > their filters.
> >
> >          I'm so happy with Yahoo's Bulk filter
> that I've even considered
> > signing up for POP access (only $9.95 per year)
> and running ALL my e-mail
> > through their filter first and then forwarding
> what's left to my current
> > ISP.  I use a very effective spam filter
> (Mailwasher Pro) for all my
> > non-Yahoo addresses, but it it not nearly as
> effective as Yahoo's because
> > of the huge volume of messages their site sees,
> which contributes to the
> > quality of their filter.  It's like having a
> gigantic callsign database
> for
> > CT versus one you personally construct!
> >
> >                                                 
> 73,  Bill  W4ZV
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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