[TenTec] dit chopper IC-7800

[Tommy]

That's OK Rick, I understand.

Unfortunately, I think Ten Tec has taken your exact track on the
amplifier/QSK issue. The Orion, with the latest versions of firmware, v1.371
and v1.370, will not work with the Ten Tec Titan 3. Maybe someday? But as
you say, high speed CW ops are an extremely small minority of active hams
and marketing types don't think there are enough sales (and rightfully so)
to worry about that issue or operating the rig in the CW mode much over
about 50 wpm. However, since you do not need a keying loop to run full QSK
with Icom gear, that IC-7800 running at 80 wpm last night sure did sound
excellent.

Tom - W4BQF

----- Original Message -----
From: "NJ0IP" <Rick at dj0ip.de>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: [TenTec] dit chopper IC-7800


> I dissagree.
>
> I think Icom just does't care about high-speed break-in.
> If it did, then it would at least attempt to incorporate a QSK keying
> circuit for QSK linears.  They didn't even address the issue.  They don't
> care.  Apparently Icom believes the people interested in QSK linears and
> high speed CW are just too small of a market segment (sorry Tom!).
>
> 73
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of n4lq
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:14 AM
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] dit chopper IC-7800
>
>
> I would love to know exactly what is so hard about compensating for this
> short dit problem. As much effort as ICOM puts into engineering you would
> think this would be a piece of cake! I don't think it's a case of not
> caring about cw. Somehow, I think they actually believe QSK is supposed
> to work that way.
> N4LQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane A Calvin <ac5aa at juno.com>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:01:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] G3SJX IC-7800 review
>
> > They must have borrowed that part of the design from the IC-706.  :-)
> >
> >         73,  Duane
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:49:30 -0700 "NJ0IP" <Rick at dj0ip.de> writes:
> > > In QSK mode, EVERY dit and dah is the first dit!  So in that case,
> > > you read
> > > it right.
> > > And it chops 30% at just 40 wpm.
> > >
> > > Also, there is no provision for keying a QSK linear (at any speed).
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com
> > > [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Steve N4LQ
> > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 3:21 PM
> > > To: tentec at contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] G3SJX IC-7800 review
> > >
> > >
> > > I read this as chopping all dits 30%, not just the first one.
> > > Typical Icom
> > > and of course the keyer has the fake weighting adjustment which is
> > > really
> > > ratio so you can't compensate for it. Just buy the 7800 and use your
> > > MFJ
> > > keyer!
> > >
> > > Steve N4LQ
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sinisa Hristov" <shristov at ptt.yu>
> > > To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 4:04 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] G3SJX IC-7800 review
> > >
> > >
> > > > NJ0IP wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Chops of the first dit by 30%" - lovely!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Systematically or at random, like Orion?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Sinisa  YT1NT, VA3TTN
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