[TenTec] ARGOSY II as a 'new' QRP rig

Kip Williams N6NVP n6nvp at cox.net
Sat Dec 25 15:23:24 EST 2004


I'm trying to decide between an Elecraft K-1 and an Argosy II 525D. (I think
I've got the model number right on that?) The Argosy has the #220 2.4 khz
crystal, the #217 500 hz crystal, the #224 audio cw filter and a noise
blanker installed. All that for $275.00, which seems like a fair price to
me.

I currently operate QRP cw only (with a filter-less Yaesu FT-7) and am
looking for a radio that will: 1.)Keep me happy on QRP ops, 2.) provide a
selective, sensitive receiver and 3.)stay with me as I gain skill. (I plan
to start chasing QRP DX.) My budget is very limited and I'm hoping to stick
with the radio I choose for longer than a couple of months.

I've had a fascination and respect for the Ten Tec rigs since being licensed
in 1980 - but have never owned one. Their sound on the air is always
distinct and a pleasure to work. Their owners are always devoted. 

Does anyone here have experience with the Argosy and the Elecraft K1 so they
could make a comparison? I know we're talking a hundred bucks or more
difference, but what beyond that am I missing? Am I comparing apples to
oranges? Am I asking too much of a 20+ year old radio if I want it to stack
up against one designed in the past 4 years? Any comments or suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks everybody and happy holidays.

Kip N6NVP

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Kip Williams N6NVP | San Diego, CA | San Diego County | DM12ks 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:52:59 EST
> From: KD7EFQ at aol.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Decision Made
> To: tentec at contesting.com
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> Ouote:
> 
> "I guess you're mostly a phone operator, otherwise you would surely have
> experienced arbitrary truncation of character elements with your TS570.
> Mine went back to Kenwood for a firmware update to improve the situation
> though alas not to cure it.  It would certainly have been nice if I could
> have downloaded that update from the web and nicer still if Kenwood cured
> the problem altogether!"
> 
> Happy Christmas.
> 
> Bob, 5B4AGN
> 
> 
>  You're absolutely right, I'm a SSB op. I studied CW enough to get my 13
> WPM
> for General, as it was a necessary evil then. Once I passsed the test,
> well,
> the key sits on my desk for decoration. I just never got bit by the CW
bug.
> Why
> work so hard when you can just hit the PTT button and say what you mean.
> No
> insult to CW ops intended. it's just not my cup o' tea. Happy Holidays to
> you
> as well.
> 
> 
> 73, Todd - KT0DD - kd7efq at aol.com
> "The race is over...THE RATS WON !"
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:57:01 -0500
> From: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq at iglou.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ts570?
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <004e01c4ea9a$5f411360$6401a8c0 at Steve>
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> Didn't Fix that problem with the 570DG version?
> Steve N4LQ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <KD7EFQ at aol.com>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 10:52 AM
> Subject: [TenTec] Decision Made
> 
> 
> > Ouote:
> >
> > "I guess you're mostly a phone operator, otherwise you would surely have
> > experienced arbitrary truncation of character elements with your TS570.
> > Mine went back to Kenwood for a firmware update to improve the situation
> > though alas not to cure it.  It would certainly have been nice if I
> could
> > have downloaded that update from the web and nicer still if Kenwood
> cured
> > the problem altogether!"
> >
> > Happy Christmas.
> >
> > Bob, 5B4AGN
> >
> >
> > You're absolutely right, I'm a SSB op. I studied CW enough to get my 13
> > WPM
> > for General, as it was a necessary evil then. Once I passsed the test,
> > well,
> > the key sits on my desk for decoration. I just never got bit by the CW
> > bug. Why
> > work so hard when you can just hit the PTT button and say what you mean.
> > No
> > insult to CW ops intended. it's just not my cup o' tea. Happy Holidays
> to
> > you
> > as well.
> >
> >
> > 73, Todd - KT0DD - kd7efq at aol.com
> > "The race is over...THE RATS WON !"
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:08:35 -0500
> From: <llewis172 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Good news...
> To: <eric.sensi at skynet.be>, <tentec at contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <000f01c4ea9b$fd3117e0$6400a8c0 at lenzy2400>
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> How do you unsubscribe... would like to do the same
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Lenzy, N8bad
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric SENSI" <eric.sensi at skynet.be>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:57 AM
> Subject: [TenTec] Good news...
> 
> 
> > Good news Gentlemen...
> >
> > As a 2005 new year's resolution :
> >
> > - I will unsubscribe from this reflector (this must be a very good
> > announcement for the reflector !) :-)
> >
> > By the way, I will not post any messages here regarding my experience
> with
> > those 2 Orion's.
> >
> > I just wanted to conclude by these points :
> >
> > - The Orion is a wonderful dream machine and it'll stay a dream for me;
> > - I NEVER said that the Orion is a garbage, I just said it needs some
> > improvements for the "average" operator like me;
> > - I NEVER said that my environment is perfect nor free of RF, my radio
> > shack
> > needs improvement too and I'm working on it;
> > - I NEVER said that my new Mark V is better than any of your Tentec
rigs,
> > the Mark V is just more "compatible" with my working conditions and
> that's
> > all;
> > - I NEVER said that there will be no Tentec radios in the shack in the
> > next
> > few months/years (dreaming of an OmniVI+);
> > - If I had enough money, I'll certainly have the Orion AND the Mark V
> side
> > by side just for extreme fun;
> > - I consider the Orion as a laboratory experimental device that could be
> > fun
> > to play with;
> > - I consider the Mark V a good radio that's working out from the box
> with
> > minimal investment in time, as I'm a poor ham radio operator, this Mark
> V
> > is
> > the perfect match for my operating style.
> > - The Orion is perfect for great experimentations, the Mark V is perfect
> > when you just wanna push the PTT switch.
> >
> > Merry xmas again to all, have fun with your TT rigs and don't forget
> your
> > families too ! The most important thing maybe.
> >
> > Eric, ON6CV
> >
> > ... -.-
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:12:34 -0500
> From: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq at iglou.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Good news...
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <005d01c4ea9c$8b5667f0$6401a8c0 at Steve>
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> Steve N4LQ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <llewis172 at comcast.net>
> To: <eric.sensi at skynet.be>; <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 11:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Good news...
> 
> 
> > How do you unsubscribe... would like to do the same
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Lenzy, N8bad
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric SENSI" <eric.sensi at skynet.be>
> > To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:57 AM
> > Subject: [TenTec] Good news...
> >
> >
> >> Good news Gentlemen...
> >>
> >> As a 2005 new year's resolution :
> >>
> >> - I will unsubscribe from this reflector (this must be a very good
> >> announcement for the reflector !) :-)
> >>
> >> By the way, I will not post any messages here regarding my experience
> >> with
> >> those 2 Orion's.
> >>
> >> I just wanted to conclude by these points :
> >>
> >> - The Orion is a wonderful dream machine and it'll stay a dream for me;
> >> - I NEVER said that the Orion is a garbage, I just said it needs some
> >> improvements for the "average" operator like me;
> >> - I NEVER said that my environment is perfect nor free of RF, my radio
> >> shack
> >> needs improvement too and I'm working on it;
> >> - I NEVER said that my new Mark V is better than any of your Tentec
> rigs,
> >> the Mark V is just more "compatible" with my working conditions and
> >> that's
> >> all;
> >> - I NEVER said that there will be no Tentec radios in the shack in the
> >> next
> >> few months/years (dreaming of an OmniVI+);
> >> - If I had enough money, I'll certainly have the Orion AND the Mark V
> >> side
> >> by side just for extreme fun;
> >> - I consider the Orion as a laboratory experimental device that could
> be
> >> fun
> >> to play with;
> >> - I consider the Mark V a good radio that's working out from the box
> with
> >> minimal investment in time, as I'm a poor ham radio operator, this Mark
> V
> >> is
> >> the perfect match for my operating style.
> >> - The Orion is perfect for great experimentations, the Mark V is
> perfect
> >> when you just wanna push the PTT switch.
> >>
> >> Merry xmas again to all, have fun with your TT rigs and don't forget
> your
> >> families too ! The most important thing maybe.
> >>
> >> Eric, ON6CV
> >>
> >> ... -.-
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> TenTec mailing list
> >> TenTec at contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> >>
> >
> >
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