[TenTec] ARGOSY II as a 'new' QRP rig

John Gwin jtgwin at comcast.net
Sun Dec 26 11:17:23 EST 2004 

Kip,

    I sold my K-1 and kept my Argosy II-D.  Never been sorry for it.

-W4SK

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kip Williams N6NVP" <n6nvp at cox.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:23 PM
Subject: [TenTec] ARGOSY II as a 'new' QRP rig


> I'm trying to decide between an Elecraft K-1 and an Argosy II 525D. (I 
> think
> I've got the model number right on that?) The Argosy has the #220 2.4 khz
> crystal, the #217 500 hz crystal, the #224 audio cw filter and a noise
> blanker installed. All that for $275.00, which seems like a fair price to
> me.
>
> I currently operate QRP cw only (with a filter-less Yaesu FT-7) and am
> looking for a radio that will: 1.)Keep me happy on QRP ops, 2.) provide a
> selective, sensitive receiver and 3.)stay with me as I gain skill. (I plan
> to start chasing QRP DX.) My budget is very limited and I'm hoping to 
> stick
> with the radio I choose for longer than a couple of months.
>
> I've had a fascination and respect for the Ten Tec rigs since being 
> licensed
> in 1980 - but have never owned one. Their sound on the air is always
> distinct and a pleasure to work. Their owners are always devoted.
>
> Does anyone here have experience with the Argosy and the Elecraft K1 so 
> they
> could make a comparison? I know we're talking a hundred bucks or more
> difference, but what beyond that am I missing? Am I comparing apples to
> oranges? Am I asking too much of a 20+ year old radio if I want it to 
> stack
> up against one designed in the past 4 years? Any comments or suggestions
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks everybody and happy holidays.
>
> Kip N6NVP
>
>                               #-#-#-#
> Kip Williams N6NVP | San Diego, CA | San Diego County | DM12ks
>                               #-#-#-#
>
>
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>>    1. Decision Made (KD7EFQ at aol.com)
>>    2. Re: ts570? (Steve N4LQ)
>>    3. Re: Good news... (llewis172 at comcast.net)
>>    4. Re: Good news... (Steve N4LQ)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:52:59 EST
>> From: KD7EFQ at aol.com
>> Subject: [TenTec] Decision Made
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>> Message-ID: <159.47201ea9.2efee6db at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Ouote:
>>
>> "I guess you're mostly a phone operator, otherwise you would surely have
>> experienced arbitrary truncation of character elements with your TS570.
>> Mine went back to Kenwood for a firmware update to improve the situation
>> though alas not to cure it.  It would certainly have been nice if I could
>> have downloaded that update from the web and nicer still if Kenwood cured
>> the problem altogether!"
>>
>> Happy Christmas.
>>
>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>
>>
>>  You're absolutely right, I'm a SSB op. I studied CW enough to get my 13
>> WPM
>> for General, as it was a necessary evil then. Once I passsed the test,
>> well,
>> the key sits on my desk for decoration. I just never got bit by the CW
> bug.
>> Why
>> work so hard when you can just hit the PTT button and say what you mean.
>> No
>> insult to CW ops intended. it's just not my cup o' tea. Happy Holidays to
>> you
>> as well.
>>
>>
>> 73, Todd - KT0DD - kd7efq at aol.com
>> "The race is over...THE RATS WON !"
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:57:01 -0500
>> From: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq at iglou.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ts570?
>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <004e01c4ea9a$5f411360$6401a8c0 at Steve>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Didn't Fix that problem with the 570DG version?
>> Steve N4LQ
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <KD7EFQ at aol.com>
>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 10:52 AM
>> Subject: [TenTec] Decision Made
>>
>>
>> > Ouote:
>> >
>> > "I guess you're mostly a phone operator, otherwise you would surely 
>> > have
>> > experienced arbitrary truncation of character elements with your TS570.
>> > Mine went back to Kenwood for a firmware update to improve the 
>> > situation
>> > though alas not to cure it.  It would certainly have been nice if I
>> could
>> > have downloaded that update from the web and nicer still if Kenwood
>> cured
>> > the problem altogether!"
>> >
>> > Happy Christmas.
>> >
>> > Bob, 5B4AGN
>> >
>> >
>> > You're absolutely right, I'm a SSB op. I studied CW enough to get my 13
>> > WPM
>> > for General, as it was a necessary evil then. Once I passsed the test,
>> > well,
>> > the key sits on my desk for decoration. I just never got bit by the CW
>> > bug. Why
>> > work so hard when you can just hit the PTT button and say what you 
>> > mean.
>> > No
>> > insult to CW ops intended. it's just not my cup o' tea. Happy Holidays
>> to
>> > you
>> > as well.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73, Todd - KT0DD - kd7efq at aol.com
>> > "The race is over...THE RATS WON !"
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:08:35 -0500
>> From: <llewis172 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Good news...
>> To: <eric.sensi at skynet.be>, <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <000f01c4ea9b$fd3117e0$6400a8c0 at lenzy2400>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> How do you unsubscribe... would like to do the same
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Lenzy, N8bad
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eric SENSI" <eric.sensi at skynet.be>
>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:57 AM
>> Subject: [TenTec] Good news...
>>
>>
>> > Good news Gentlemen...
>> >
>> > As a 2005 new year's resolution :
>> >
>> > - I will unsubscribe from this reflector (this must be a very good
>> > announcement for the reflector !) :-)
>> >
>> > By the way, I will not post any messages here regarding my experience
>> with
>> > those 2 Orion's.
>> >
>> > I just wanted to conclude by these points :
>> >
>> > - The Orion is a wonderful dream machine and it'll stay a dream for me;
>> > - I NEVER said that the Orion is a garbage, I just said it needs some
>> > improvements for the "average" operator like me;
>> > - I NEVER said that my environment is perfect nor free of RF, my radio
>> > shack
>> > needs improvement too and I'm working on it;
>> > - I NEVER said that my new Mark V is better than any of your Tentec
> rigs,
>> > the Mark V is just more "compatible" with my working conditions and
>> that's
>> > all;
>> > - I NEVER said that there will be no Tentec radios in the shack in the
>> > next
>> > few months/years (dreaming of an OmniVI+);
>> > - If I had enough money, I'll certainly have the Orion AND the Mark V
>> side
>> > by side just for extreme fun;
>> > - I consider the Orion as a laboratory experimental device that could 
>> > be
>> > fun
>> > to play with;
>> > - I consider the Mark V a good radio that's working out from the box
>> with
>> > minimal investment in time, as I'm a poor ham radio operator, this Mark
>> V
>> > is
>> > the perfect match for my operating style.
>> > - The Orion is perfect for great experimentations, the Mark V is 
>> > perfect
>> > when you just wanna push the PTT switch.
>> >
>> > Merry xmas again to all, have fun with your TT rigs and don't forget
>> your
>> > families too ! The most important thing maybe.
>> >
>> > Eric, ON6CV
>> >
>> > ... -.-
>> >
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:12:34 -0500
>> From: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq at iglou.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Good news...
>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Message-ID: <005d01c4ea9c$8b5667f0$6401a8c0 at Steve>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
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>> Steve N4LQ
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <llewis172 at comcast.net>
>> To: <eric.sensi at skynet.be>; <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 11:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Good news...
>>
>>
>> > How do you unsubscribe... would like to do the same
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Lenzy, N8bad
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Eric SENSI" <eric.sensi at skynet.be>
>> > To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:57 AM
>> > Subject: [TenTec] Good news...
>> >
>> >
>> >> Good news Gentlemen...
>> >>
>> >> As a 2005 new year's resolution :
>> >>
>> >> - I will unsubscribe from this reflector (this must be a very good
>> >> announcement for the reflector !) :-)
>> >>
>> >> By the way, I will not post any messages here regarding my experience
>> >> with
>> >> those 2 Orion's.
>> >>
>> >> I just wanted to conclude by these points :
>> >>
>> >> - The Orion is a wonderful dream machine and it'll stay a dream for 
>> >> me;
>> >> - I NEVER said that the Orion is a garbage, I just said it needs some
>> >> improvements for the "average" operator like me;
>> >> - I NEVER said that my environment is perfect nor free of RF, my radio
>> >> shack
>> >> needs improvement too and I'm working on it;
>> >> - I NEVER said that my new Mark V is better than any of your Tentec
>> rigs,
>> >> the Mark V is just more "compatible" with my working conditions and
>> >> that's
>> >> all;
>> >> - I NEVER said that there will be no Tentec radios in the shack in the
>> >> next
>> >> few months/years (dreaming of an OmniVI+);
>> >> - If I had enough money, I'll certainly have the Orion AND the Mark V
>> >> side
>> >> by side just for extreme fun;
>> >> - I consider the Orion as a laboratory experimental device that could
>> be
>> >> fun
>> >> to play with;
>> >> - I consider the Mark V a good radio that's working out from the box
>> with
>> >> minimal investment in time, as I'm a poor ham radio operator, this 
>> >> Mark
>> V
>> >> is
>> >> the perfect match for my operating style.
>> >> - The Orion is perfect for great experimentations, the Mark V is
>> perfect
>> >> when you just wanna push the PTT switch.
>> >>
>> >> Merry xmas again to all, have fun with your TT rigs and don't forget
>> your
>> >> families too ! The most important thing maybe.
>> >>
>> >> Eric, ON6CV
>> >>
>> >> ... -.-
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> TenTec mailing list
>> >> TenTec at contesting.com
>> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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