More Re: [TenTec] Orion redefines the meaning of ... AGC OFF

Tommy aldermant at alltel.net
Sun Feb 8 09:04:32 EST 2004


Yes, but Carl, you and I are not 'expert contesters', so I'm sure we are not
qualified to post our personal technical opinions. Not really a big deal, I
just sit on 80m and copy signals with my Orion that others can't seem to
hear. But anyway, I'm certainly glad to know that at last the USA has
imported an 'expert contester'. At last, I'll be able to sleep well again.

Tom/W4BQF


----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py at earthlink.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: More Re: [TenTec] Orion redefines the meaning of ... AGC OFF


> I'm tired of hearing comparisons between the K2 and the Orion.  The two
> radios are as different as night and day.  The K2 only has one receiver,
NO
> passband tuning, much less filter choices, and a very awkward user
interface
> that many times has you hitting the wrong button to do something.  For
> example, to  turn on the CW spotting tone on the K2, you press and HOLD
the
> PRE/ATT button.   To turn on SPLIT, you press and hold the A=B button.  So
> if you get you two VFO's set correctly and want to turn on SPLIT and
happen
> to not hold the SPLIT button long enough, you end up doing an A=B.  This
is
> an ergonomic joke.  These radios are just not in the same league and
should
> not be compared with each other.  And, I have a K2 and Orion side by side
> here.  I can tell you if the preamp is turned off on the K2, it does not
> have enough sensitivity.  The Orion can hear much weaker signals with the
> preamp off on both radios.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> Franklinton, NC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <K3BU at aol.com>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 2:34 AM
> Subject: Re: More Re: [TenTec] Orion redefines the meaning of ... AGC OFF
>
>
> > In a message dated 2/7/04 6:23:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> nq5t at comcast.net
> > writes:
> >
> > Not sure why we keep going back to those "tests".  Even John Devoldere
> > very politely did what he could to try and debunk that particular urban
> > legend in his Orion review.
> >
> > Because we want to and because there is something to it.
> > ON4UN is nice guy, I respect him, but he is not gospel. Did he tried to
> > measure or replicate the tests? I remember him praising MKV (worst of
> FT1k's), how
> > much better it is than 1000D.  Also his remark about not being able to
use
> > synchro receiver on Orion, when all you have to do is offset the RIT on
> one of
> > them.
> >
> > K6SE tests are not urban legend. He is one of the top and accomplished
> hams,
> > he knows the stuff and if you knew more about it, you might be more
> inclined
> > to have closer look at the problem rather than ridiculing and singing
> praises
> > and hallelujahs about crap. I will repeat his test under perhaps more
> > controlled situation, but so far what I have seen, I agree with Earl's
> conclusions.
> >
> > Orion has some remarkable and advanced features, but quite a few rough
> edges
> > especially for the competitive hams. It was supposed to be amazing rig
for
> > contesters, but so far for the money it comes short on ergonomics. Cheap
> IC706 or
> > K2 could give it some lessons in that directions.
> >
> > Your posts smell by the blind devotion to Ten-Tec things, even if they
do
> not
> > deserve it. Get real! It doesn't help anybody to keep proclaiming that
> > emperor has nice clothes.
> >
> > 73 Yuri, K3BU
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