Grant, N5QT, wrote: . . . Now if the vendors would build something in like the LogiKeyer --- that would be a different story ... Well, my TS-870S has a built-in K-1 LogiKey(er). Works great, very convenient. Unfortunately, the receiver of the TS-870 is no match for the OMNI VI, so I'm accepting bids on the Kenwood :-) 73, John, W3ULS