[TenTec] QSK

[n4lq]

Tom:
I agree that the sidetone should be a true representation of the 
transmitted signal however there is a delay between that and your ears 
that can throw off your timing if you are using a keyer or bug. I've 
even experienced it on some keyers and just a few milliseconds sidetone 
delay at 30 wpm can throw off my rhythm. 
I have a device here made by Gonset called the Monitone. It picks up RF 
from the final amp. or antenna, rectifies then keys a sidetone 
oscillator. This was made back in the 40's I believe. Maybe something 
like this would be what you are after. At least it would give an 
indication of the weighting. 
As for this ratio subject....ICOM has poluted the minds of many hams 
with their so-called weighting method and now people think ratio and 
weight are the same thing. It's almost a hopeless situation. 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tommy" <aldermant at alltel.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 06:13:00 -0500
Subject: Re: [TenTec] QSK

> Hmmmm....good point Paul.
> 
> But that brings up the question, if you have proper 3:1 element 
> lengths, why would you have to fiddle with the weighting?
> 
> Or , is it really correct that the 3:1 ratio is proper/correct 
> elements? Isn't that a 'spec' that, like QSK, was developed back in 
> the mechanical key era also?
> 
> To me, sidetone circuitry in just about every rig is designed 
> completely incorrect. I think in most rigs, sidetone is generated by 
> the keying pulses going TO the xmtr stages. I think it should be 
> developed by the wave shape sampled in the SWR circuit. That way you 
> would have a more true representation of how your own signal 
> sounded. As it is now, you really have no true representation in 
> sidetone, of how your signal actually sounds.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Tom - W4BQF
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "PHILLIP C FLORINE" <flor0045 at metnet.edu>
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:46 AM
> Subject: [TenTec] QSK
> 
> 
> > In addition to all the requirements discussed previously for 
> > (good) QSK,
> > how about transmitted element lengths being proper (3:1) whether 
> > using an
> > internal or external keyer without having to fiddle with weighting 
> > or other
> > controls?  The sidetone would, of course, reflect what's being 
> > transmitted.
> >
> > No choppy CW allowed- at any speed.
> >
> > Phil,
> >
> > K0UBC
> >
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