[TenTec] Being a Contrarian...."

[Tommy]

Deer Mr. Addams,

Thanks for your very informative 'facts'. Most likely those of us who 
use this reflector have owned and been dealing with TT for some 20 to 
30 years and I'm sure some of us were unaware of your 'facts'. Have 
you ever been to a Ten Tec hamfest? If not, your missing a real threat.

"Being new to this,"......"best service my bud has ever 
seen".....well, OK. Would it be OK to assume your 'facts' were 
obtained from your 'bud'?

How's it going with your studying the question pool to get ready to 
take your test for your first ham ticket? I hope you hurry up and get 
a licenses because the hobby is a heck of a lot of fun, much more so 
than getting "disheartened for now.".

Good luck to you.

Tom - W4BQF



At Wednesday 08:29 AM 8/2/2006, you wrote:
>Urban myths.
>Facts are:
>Doug Smith and Gary Barbour wrote the classic Orion.
>  Doug Smith left TenTec under non-amicable terms.
>The Classic Orion had lots of lock up issues, a lot due to the DSP 
>code couldn't communicate well with the other microprocessors, and 
>would lock up the busses.
>Gary Barbour re-wrote ALL of the Orion II, mainly to free up 
>processing time so that the communications channels would not lock 
>up anymore. Also due to the fact that the chip was going obsolete, 
>and then decided to add a color screen and better filtering.
>
>Those are facts.
>They don't have a team of 100s doing engineering work, like Icom and 
>Yaesu and Kenwood do.
>They only have a couple of people in engineering that do design 
>work, and only a couple of people that do testing internally. They 
>do a lot of their user testing by having their service group and 
>others take sets home and test on the air.
>This is a "Ham" engineering team, who try to make the best products 
>available at a cost that most can afford. They are not a team of 
>hundreds of engineers, otherwise you would see more and more 
>products coming out. This team of engineers also has to deal with 
>obsolete parts issues, problems in the factory, answering hundreds 
>of service questions posted by people who are using the radio "in a 
>different way" than anyone else on the planet.
>Being new to this, I would love to see a radio that has ALL bands 
>available for ALL modes, including 6m and 2m. Maybe that isn't 
>possible, but it would be nice to have something all rolled up into one.
>However, given that they are constantly getting barraged by 
>arguments on how NR should work, we may not see something "new" from 
>them for quite some time.
>Maybe the people on this board are part of the problem.
>A lot of people start yelling before they have found out that the 
>problem is really in their shack.Next time, ask if someone else has 
>seen this, you will be surprised, most problems are answered right 
>on here, but people ignore the answer, only to find out that later, 
>the original answer by one of your fellow hams was actually correct, 
>and it was your mic, not your Orion SW.
>A lot of people praise the new NR scheme, and a lot of people 
>condemn it. Some call for them to make a menu item so that you can 
>pick which way it works. Imagine, taking the time to do this, takes 
>away time from fixing other bugs, and from introducing new things.
>So they have to weigh the benefits of the changes, and then weigh 
>the consequences of not having a new product that would compete with 
>their competitors on 6m, or on the internet, or ........
>I do not envy them.
>I just wish everyone would be more supportive, and not so 
>immediately condemnative.
>TT is a great company, best service my bud has ever seen, and I'm 
>afraid that some day they may decide that it is too much hassle to 
>stay in the amateur market, and go with nothing but commercial 
>products. Afterall, commercial probably pays the bills, and they 
>have exacting specs on how things should work. Whereas selling to 
>the amateur market is like selling to a thousand different customers 
>with a hundred thousand different requirements, often varying from 
>day to day from the same person. So many times I've seen where one 
>person says something, then contradicts themselves the next week 
>just to keep an argument alive.
>Remember what you got into amateur radio for in the first place.
>Helping others learn more about it
>adventure
>working together.
>That is why I started into the hobby, but I could see some who would 
>read this list, and drop out because ... too much bs... it should be 
>easier... the sure don't live up to their credo...
>This will be my last post, as I too am getting disheartened for now.
>
>
>Grant Youngman <nq5t at comcast.net> wrote: > Doug Smith's leaving TT 
>was NOT an 'urban myth'!
>
>
>But the notion that the Orion somehow died with him is.  Positively.
>Absurd.  Of course he left.  Last I heard he isn't the last living guy that
>knows stuff.  That he had the mojo and the rest is history -- that's the
>mythololgy, which has now become dogma.  If Gary B did do the Orion II
>single handedly (maybe that's just another piece of mythology), how many of
>the whiners (and I've been one, too, at times) could even come close?
>
>Come to think of it, this whole series of threads is absurd.
>
>I don't understand why all the guys who think that they could do a better
>job, don't get together, throw in their savings accounts, and just build a
>radio.  Then we'll see.  Nothing is perfect for everyone.  Not the Orion, or
>the II, or the 7800 or the 9000 or ....  Nothing is perfect.
>
>The whole business is just filling up disk space in my DELETED folder,
>including this useless contribution.
>
>Grant/NQ5T
>
>
>
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