[TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM]

d.e.warnick at comcast.net d.e.warnick at comcast.net
Sun Dec 17 15:23:34 EST 2006


Check out this link. The UK is now moving to a lifetime license

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Dave
WA3MKB

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "AD5VJ Bob" <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net> 

> I am not privy to the UK and where they have gone. What are you alluding to? 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com 
> > [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> > d.e.warnick at comcast.net 
> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:45 PM 
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment 
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM] 
> > 
> > I agree. That's why I stated that we could not have changed 
> > it, but I still feel that our voices should habve been heard. 
> > You're right on the future. Just look at there the UK has 
> > gone. Sad, but the times, they are a changin'. 
> > Dave 
> > WA3MKB 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: "n4dsp" 
> > 
> > > WA3MKB, 
> > > Nice post and but I have to disagree with you on one point. 
> > You state 
> > > that the amateur radio operators who failed to write the FCC 
> > > unintentionally allowed the removal of the requirement of 
> > Morse Code 
> > > from all license class examinations is inaccurate. The truth of the 
> > > matter is the FCC had an agenda and no matter if 99% of operators 
> > > expressed their opinion of retaining the Morse Code requirement it 
> > > would not have mattered. Look at the route other countries 
> > throughout 
> > > the world have gone. One does not have to look past 
> > Washington to see 
> > > the lack of leadership in these matters. Case in point-BPL. 
> > > Also it is my opinion, and please note the word opinion, 
> > that within 
> > > 20 years there will be no examinations whatsoever. Just pay your 20 
> > > dollars with your completed application. If these guys can push 
> > > through no code then it makes everything else much easier. 
> > Just look 
> > > at the VEC examinations and how much of a joke they are. A 
> > person can 
> > > memorize the answers in 3 weeks and pass the Extra test with flying 
> > > colors. I know people who have done it but that will also 
> > be a bygone era. 
> > > 
> > > 73 
> > > john-n4dsp 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: 
> > > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" 
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:44 PM 
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM] 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Thank you KC4ATU. You have echoed the feelings of 
> > thousands. Every amateur 
> > > > operator who did not want to see the code dropped, but 
> > who did not write 
> > > > the FCC, at the urging of a very hard working ARRL, has 
> > unintentionally 
> > > > allowed this to happen. We could not have changed it 
> > anyway, but our 
> > > > voices should have been heard. 
> > > > So what can we do now? Continue to operate CW as we have 
> > in the past. 
> > > > Enjoy it and show the world that it is still a viable 
> > force in our 
> > > > communications. 
> > > > That's it. Let's focus our energies in the positive side 
> > of things. The 
> > > > ARRL has done a heck of a lot to keep us informed of what 
> > is happening and 
> > > > to enable us to operate at all 
> > > > 
> > > > WA3MKB 
> > > > 
> > > > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > > > From: "bill rowlett" 
> > > > 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> >From: "AD5VJ Bob" 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > So tell me something: 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> >I am a member of many many lists on Yahoo and have not 
> > caught up reading 
> > > >> >all of them today because of this news that the ARRL 
> > > >> >dropped the ball on Amateur Radio again. 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> >Not one response that I read so far, was in favor of 
> > this move on any of 
> > > >> >those lists. 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> >So my question is: 
> > > >> >How about we form a League of some kind that will 
> > protect and represent 
> > > >> >our 
> > > >> >interests as LICENSED Amateur Radio Operators? 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> >Sounds like the unlicensed folks have their League 
> > already, we just pay 
> > > >> >for 
> > > >> >it annually. 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> This has been coming for many years. You and I have had 
> > ample time to yet 
> > > >> the FCC know how we feal about it. The international 
> > community has gone 
> > > >> this 
> > > >> route and now so do we. The ARRL was not behind a total 
> > elimination. They 
> > > >> wanted to retain it for Extra Class, so get off the lets 
> > bash the ARRL. 
> > > >> They 
> > > >> are not correct all the time and neither are you or me, 
> > so cool it with 
> > > >> the 
> > > >> bashing, grow up. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> When CW was droped from the shipping industry and from 
> > the military, the 
> > > >> hand writing was on the wall. Freight trains are hard to stop 
> > > >> 
> > > >> What now, USE it, be EXCITED about it, and TEACH it. It 
> > will last as a 
> > > >> mode 
> > > >> of operation, AM is still here. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 73, KC4ATU 
> > > >> 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > >> > > From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com 
> > > >> > > [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Douglas Shock 
> > > >> > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:55 PM 
> > > >> > > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment 
> > > >> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: FCC ELIMINATES CW EXAM] 
> > > >> > > 
> > > >> > > what a shame 
> > > >> > > 
> > > >> > > On 12/15/06, Ken N9VV wrote: 
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> > > > Looks like it is for real! 
> > > >> > > > 
> > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-269012A1.pdf 
> > > >> > > > de ken n9vv (old CW Dinosaur) 
> > > >> > > > 
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