In a message dated 2/11/2006 6:52:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, RMcGraw at Blomand.Net writes: I know folks in the past that are noted to crank everything to the max and proclaim "boy that receiver is sure noisy". 73 Bob, K4TAX that sounds like my favorite expression on how to get DX.." all knobs all the way to the right" or AKAR tom N6AJR