[TenTec] Orion II bug
Dave Garner
dgarner at usit.net
Sun Jan 1 08:18:14 EST 2006
I have had my Orion II now for almost two weeks and the bug showed up last
night three times. Each time the S-meter froze at a high reading and the
sweep went off. Each time I simply turned the rig off and then back on and
it was back to normal. The time internal between the freezes varied from 30
minutes to up to 60 minutes. That was the first time I had observed the
"bug" after normal operation for a week or so.
For those of you into HF DX, the 80M band has been open to Europe the last
two nights and I was able to hear very weak stations on the Orion II that I
could not copy on the Icom 756 Pro II, beside it, and using the same
antenna. The Orion really showed its low noise floor in this comparison.
Dave
WA4YRK
Knoxville, TN
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1. Re: RAM CLEAR - no help, My first Orion II bug (Gary Harwell)
2. WTB Ten Tec 526 (Joe Searcy)
3. Re: ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER (Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX)
4. Re: ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER (J.Reed)
5. Re: ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER (Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX)
6. Re: Back to Sony 7506 (Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX)
7. Re: ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER (Sinisa Hristov)
8. Re: ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER (Denton)
9. Re: Which Omni? (David W LeJeune, Sr)
10. Happy New Year (Toby Pennington)
11. F/S 705 Mic (B. Lee Cornwell)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:50:29 -0800
From: "Gary Harwell" <gharwell at cpros.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] RAM CLEAR - no help, My first Orion II bug
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
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Shortly after I said that the ram clear fixed the problem, it did it again!
Should have kept quiet. I was in screen color selection #3, had been using
#4 for a week or so. Don't know if the color selection has anything to do
with it or not.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen M. Shearer" <wb3lgc at verizon.net>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>;
<orion at contesting.com>
Cc: "TenTec DitsnBits" <ditsnbits at tentec.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: [TenTec] RAM CLEAR - no help, My first Orion II bug
> Ram-Clear (or master reset) didn't solve the problem. I still have
> S-meter
> freeze and a dead scan after a few hours of receiving. Yes, power off-on
> clears the condition. I did another ram-clear, no help.
>
> Note, this time I NOTICED something that may be useful to TT:
> The main AF control moves the LCD display bar, but the volume doesn't
> change
> in my earphones. The volume does change for the speaker (if I unplug the
> phones). The sub AF does work the earphones and the sub RX does have the
> s-meter display working ok.
>
> 73, Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Stephen M. Shearer
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:00 PM
> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
> Subject: [TenTec] RAM CLEAR ?? My first Orion II bug
>
> OK, the info I found:
> To Activate the RAM-CLEAR feature.
>
> 1) PRESS and HOLD the VFOB-LCK button while turning on the radio.
> 2) WAIT until the BATTERY FAILURE message appears on the screen.
> 3) Answer YES when 'Clear User Memories?' appears on the screen.
> 4) Answer YES when 'Reset Optional Filters?' appears on the screen.
> 5) When radio screen appears, turn radio OFF and back ON.
>
> BUT, 3) and 4) don't show (on the O2) is it different then the O1?
> Memories are clear so it must do it automatically?
>
> Now, I wait...
> 73, Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Toby Pennington
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 8:26 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Orion] My first Orion II bug
>
> The Ram Clear is the most important thing to do.........give it a try!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen M. Shearer" <wb3lgc at verizon.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Orion] My first Orion II bug
>
>
>> I did a master reset and I am still seeing the "bug". I will try
>> again...
>>
>> Now, all I can do is listen and wait...
>> 73, Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com
>> [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
>> On Behalf Of Toby Pennington
>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 8:02 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Orion] My first Orion II bug
>>
>> I suppose you guys have done a ram clear and master reset? This cleared
> the
>> problem up for one BETA tester.
>>
>> ......
>>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:14:24 -0500
From: "Joe Searcy" <Joesearcy at charter.net>
Subject: [TenTec] WTB Ten Tec 526
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
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I am looking to buy a Ten Tec 526 in good condition. Contact me directly if
you wish. joesearcy at charter.net or call (770) 562-0890.
Thanks,
Joe
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:17:59 -0600
From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX <RMcGraw at Blomand.Net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
To: w2yj at highstream.net, Tentec <tentec at contesting.com>
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George:
First from my point of view, 4:1 baluns should not be used in this
application. I wouldn't expect it to work. Based on your antenna/feedline
configuration the actual feed Z of the antenna may be more near 25 ohms.
Thus with a 4:1 balun the load the tuner must match is 25/4 or 6.5 ohms.
Very few if any tuners will match efficiently below about 15 ohms.
You should be using a 1:1 current balun in all applications, all
configurations. The 4:1 balun should reside in the trash can.
History: 4:1 baluns became popular due to hams making folded dipoles from
TV type line or open wire line. In this configuration the resonant feed Z
is more like 200 to 300 ohms. Thus with a 4:1 balun the load to the
transmitter is in the order or 50 to 75 ohms which is great for most
transmitters with those being link coupled outputs or with the new pi
networks.
Happy New Year
73
Bob, K4TAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "George K" <w2yj at highstream.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:12 PM
Subject: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
> My original Orion with internal tuner would not tune the lower ends of 80
> and 160 meters.
> The antenna is a 270 foot center fed with open wire terminating at a 4:1
> balun outside the shack and then on into the OrionII rig with 20 feet of
> coax.
> The OrionII has no problem with either band on the lower ends tuning to
> 1.2:1???
> Did TT beef up the tuners capabilities in the, new and improved,
> OrionII???
> If not I can't think of what I may have done since receiving the OII.
> I'm elated, but in a quandary.
> George
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:00:26 -0500
From: "J.Reed" <jhreed at chilitech.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <003901c60e77$22ca2cd0$f5c445c6 at Dell3000>
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Put the balun in backwards?
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX
To: w2yj at highstream.net ; Tentec
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
George:
First from my point of view, 4:1 baluns should not be used in this
application. I wouldn't expect it to work. Based on your
antenna/feedline
configuration the actual feed Z of the antenna may be more near 25 ohms.
Thus with a 4:1 balun the load the tuner must match is 25/4 or 6.5 ohms.
Very few if any tuners will match efficiently below about 15 ohms.
You should be using a 1:1 current balun in all applications, all
configurations. The 4:1 balun should reside in the trash can.
History: 4:1 baluns became popular due to hams making folded dipoles from
TV type line or open wire line. In this configuration the resonant feed Z
is more like 200 to 300 ohms. Thus with a 4:1 balun the load to the
transmitter is in the order or 50 to 75 ohms which is great for most
transmitters with those being link coupled outputs or with the new pi
networks.
Happy New Year
73
Bob, K4TAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "George K" <w2yj at highstream.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:12 PM
Subject: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
> My original Orion with internal tuner would not tune the lower ends of
80
> and 160 meters.
> The antenna is a 270 foot center fed with open wire terminating at a 4:1
> balun outside the shack and then on into the OrionII rig with 20 feet of
> coax.
> The OrionII has no problem with either band on the lower ends tuning to
> 1.2:1???
> Did TT beef up the tuners capabilities in the, new and improved,
> OrionII???
> If not I can't think of what I may have done since receiving the OII.
> I'm elated, but in a quandary.
> George
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:39:35 -0600
From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX <RMcGraw at Blomand.Net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
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If this is done then when the antenna feed Z is near 3000 ohms the tuner
will need to match 12000 ohms. Again Na Da on this approach. A 1:1 current
balun works in every case.
Still I vote for putting the 4:1 balun in the trash and putting a 1:1
current balun at the feed point.
73
Bob, K4TAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "JReed" <jhreed at chilitech.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
> Put the balun in backwards?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX
> To: w2yj at highstream.net ; Tentec
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
>
>
> George:
>
> First from my point of view, 4:1 baluns should not be used in this
> application. I wouldn't expect it to work. Based on your
> antenna/feedline
> configuration the actual feed Z of the antenna may be more near 25 ohms.
> Thus with a 4:1 balun the load the tuner must match is 25/4 or 6.5 ohms.
> Very few if any tuners will match efficiently below about 15 ohms.
>
> You should be using a 1:1 current balun in all applications, all
> configurations. The 4:1 balun should reside in the trash can.
>
> History: 4:1 baluns became popular due to hams making folded dipoles
> from
> TV type line or open wire line. In this configuration the resonant feed
> Z
> is more like 200 to 300 ohms. Thus with a 4:1 balun the load to the
> transmitter is in the order or 50 to 75 ohms which is great for most
> transmitters with those being link coupled outputs or with the new pi
> networks.
>
> Happy New Year
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George K" <w2yj at highstream.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:12 PM
> Subject: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
>
>
> > My original Orion with internal tuner would not tune the lower ends of
> 80
> > and 160 meters.
> > The antenna is a 270 foot center fed with open wire terminating at a
> 4:1
> > balun outside the shack and then on into the OrionII rig with 20 feet
> of
> > coax.
> > The OrionII has no problem with either band on the lower ends tuning to
> > 1.2:1???
> > Did TT beef up the tuners capabilities in the, new and improved,
> > OrionII???
> > If not I can't think of what I may have done since receiving the OII.
> > I'm elated, but in a quandary.
> > George
> > _______________________________________________
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> > TenTec at contesting.com
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> >
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:43:52 -0600
From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX <RMcGraw at Blomand.Net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Back to Sony 7506
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
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The Sony 7506's make an excellent choice for headphones.
Happy New Year
73
Bob, K4TAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Russe3ll" <lord_russell53 at yahoo.com>
To: <TenTec at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:53 PM
Subject: [TenTec] Back to Sony 7506
> Well, on advice of this reflector, I researched
> headphones a week ago and bought the Sony 7506's.
> Before all the talk about the TDE phones came up. You
> guys who found a cheap pair of phones that work great,
> that's wonderful. A paid $100 for these and they were
> worth every penney of it. They have a cheaper version,
> bought not built as well as these. The comfort level,
> sound, and construction quality makes these a top buy
> for my Omni V. KE7DFP
>
>
>
>
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> http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:45:41 -0500
From: Sinisa Hristov <shristov at ptt.yu>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
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Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> If this is done then when the antenna feed Z is near 3000 ohms the tuner
> will need to match 12000 ohms. Again Na Da on this approach. A 1:1
current
> balun works in every case.
A 1:1 current balun works only in limited cases when its impedance
is much higher than the load impedance. Given that most commercial
baluns have difficulty reaching 500 Ohms, the application is limited
to load impedances of ~50 Ohms or less.
In addition to the impedance problem, there is also a voltage handling
problem with high impedance loads.
73,
Sinisa YT1NT, VE3EA
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:09:11 -0800
From: "Denton" <denton at oregontrail.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <00ff01c60e80$bd6a9780$0400a8c0 at D1SFW181>
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Wonder what it would take to homebrew a true automatic link coupled antenna
tuner?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX" <RMcGraw at Blomand.Net>
To: <w2yj at highstream.net>; "Tentec" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
> George:
>
> First from my point of view, 4:1 baluns should not be used in this
> application. I wouldn't expect it to work. Based on your
> antenna/feedline
> configuration the actual feed Z of the antenna may be more near 25 ohms.
> Thus with a 4:1 balun the load the tuner must match is 25/4 or 6.5 ohms.
> Very few if any tuners will match efficiently below about 15 ohms.
>
> You should be using a 1:1 current balun in all applications, all
> configurations. The 4:1 balun should reside in the trash can.
>
> History: 4:1 baluns became popular due to hams making folded dipoles from
> TV type line or open wire line. In this configuration the resonant feed Z
> is more like 200 to 300 ohms. Thus with a 4:1 balun the load to the
> transmitter is in the order or 50 to 75 ohms which is great for most
> transmitters with those being link coupled outputs or with the new pi
> networks.
>
> Happy New Year
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George K" <w2yj at highstream.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:12 PM
> Subject: [TenTec] ORIONII_INTERNAL_AT_TUNER
>
>
>> My original Orion with internal tuner would not tune the lower ends of 80
>> and 160 meters.
>> The antenna is a 270 foot center fed with open wire terminating at a 4:1
>> balun outside the shack and then on into the OrionII rig with 20 feet of
>> coax.
>> The OrionII has no problem with either band on the lower ends tuning to
>> 1.2:1???
>> Did TT beef up the tuners capabilities in the, new and improved,
>> OrionII???
>> If not I can't think of what I may have done since receiving the OII.
>> I'm elated, but in a quandary.
>> George
>> _______________________________________________
>> TenTec mailing list
>> TenTec at contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:00:20 -0600
From: "David W LeJeune, Sr" <lejeuned at centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Which Omni?
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <009601c60e87$e24563d0$cb01a8c0 at lejeune.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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The OMNI VI+/Herc/Tuner combo is sold - thanks, guys
Dave K5WNV
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:20:11 -0500
From: "Toby Pennington" <toby423 at earthlink.net>
Subject: [TenTec] Happy New Year
To: "Ten Tec List" <tentec at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000901c60e8a$aabc2310$6402a8c0 at TOBYROOM>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Happy New Year to all on the list! My hope and prayer is that all who
contribute to the list have good health during the coming year, and also
that you will be prosperous so you can buy more Ten Tec rigs and amps.
May 2006 be a good year for everyone! Toby W4CAK
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 07:33:14 -0500
From: "B. Lee Cornwell" <k2blc at earthlink.net>
Subject: [TenTec] F/S 705 Mic
To: TenTec Reflector <tentec at contesting.com>
Message-ID: <43B7CC0A.3050407 at earthlink.net>
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For Sale: 705 Mic - Excllent condition - W/ 1/4" stereo connector - Last
used with Argosy 525 - $65.00 shipped (CONUS only)
Picture at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~k2blc/images/tt705.jpg
Thanks
Lee
--
B. Lee Cornwell
http://home.earthlink.net/~k2blc/index.html
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