[TenTec] RF Getting back into Rig Problem

Barry LaZar k3ndm at verizon.net
Mon Mar 20 10:24:49 EST 2006


Fellas,
     Interesting. Yesterday for the first time, My Orion II reflected the same symptoms. Howevewr it was at the 35 watt level that my transmitter locked on. It required a power off to stop it. 
     I run three different wire antennas, but only the one with a really good RF choke caused the problem. The antenna is an OCF dipole with a choke 18 feet down from the feet point, a Carolina Windom knock off. 
     From what I could see, the problem is RF getting into the control processor. It was also apparent in the sound of the side tone. I'm looking to see why I'm having a problem now since I've not had the problem before yesterday. I think this is something that Tentec needs to look at.

Barry
K3NDM



>From: joel hallas <jrhallas at optonline.net>
>Date: Mon Mar 20 07:51:29 CST 2006
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] RF Getting back into Rig Problem

>Dave,
>
>It certainly sounds like RF getting into the radio!
>
>Sometimes good grounding helps, but it is often even more important to 
>find out how the RF is getting there and stop it from doing so. The 
>possible sources that occur to me:
>
>RF on the coax shield - a good ground at the rig might make a big 
>difference here. Also check that the coax connector backshell on the rig 
>is tight. Finding out if you have the problem with a dummy load instead 
>of the antenna (unlikely) may be worth knowing.
>Power leads, possibly coupled directly from the antenna if it's close or 
>more likely from the power wiring. Try a different source, shorter 
>leads, better a car battery close to the radio.
>Speaker or key  or mic (even if on cw) leads. Unlikely, but easy to 
>eliminate or, for the key, make very short.
>Computer connections. This can get coupled from phone lines if you have 
>a modem, power wiring, etc. Easy to pull off and see.
>
>Once you know where it's getting in, you can address the problem more 
>directly with a coax  choke (6 to 10 turns of coax 10 " in diam, for 
>example) on the feedline, ferrite beads on other wires, etc.
>
>Having a good ground is not a bad idea, however, you may already have a 
>fair ground through the green wire of the ac line, if you're close to 
>your power panel and it's installed properly. It will help some but not 
>all of the sources above, and could even make some worse, depending on 
>how the rig wiring is set up.
>
>Just my $0.02.
>
>73, Joel
>
>Dave Tipton wrote:
>
>> 
>>  The facts:
>>  Rig: Jupiter with Auto Tuner
>>  Antenna: 40M dipole at about 20 feet.
>>  Coax: 100 Feet of RG8X
>>  Keyer: MFJ Memory Keyer
>>   
>>  Over the weekend, we had some horrendous rain storms.  This is the first time I've ever encountered this issue, so I question whether that had something to do with it.
>>   
>>  Now, I'll be the first to admit, I do not have a ground on my rig.  That's a problem, I'm working out this week.  (10 inches of rain this weekend should help that actually)
>>   
>>  Whenever I ran more than 50 watts, CW, the rig would key and then lock in a transmit position.  Turning it off and then back on would release it.
>>   
>>  My question(s):  Is this merely a grounding problem, or am I overlooking something else?   Has anyone else ever experienced this?
>>   
>>  Thanks,
>>  Dave, W3DMT
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