Dave, I'm only an appliance operator as they say hi hi , so I don't know, but in any case I decided to ship it to TEN-TEC. By the way Hal has done work for me prior and always did a good job fast and a fair price but that was Collins, Kenwood, and Yaesu rigs 73's John KA2VBT ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com