[TenTec] Head-Phone volume in Orion2

[pfizenmayer]

The headphone output IC in the OII is a stereo IC LM4811. I measured about 
2.75 ohms output impedance  at the headphone jack before I installed the RF 
filter . The RF filter in later OII's and the board that TenTec supplies has 
surface mount ferrite loaded inductors and the total series resistance in 
each lead is about 24 ohms.So output Z is about 27 ohms each side.

14060 MHz  50 uv in to RX Antenna.(essentially S9) Spot Tone 400 hz , 
Sidetone
set at 100 (max) . Received signal output level set to comfortable headphone
level.(Approximately half of the audio bar level readout with my phones)

ver 2.037j firmware . I have not measured the latest beta.

OPEN CIRCUIT             LEFT MAIN        RIGHT MAIN

set for comfortable        55.1 mv        55.5 mv
level (approx 1/2 bar)

SPOT                      101.8 mv        102 mv

CW SIdetone               50.7 mv         51.0 mv

NO signal                 3.7 mv           3.7 mv
residual noise

So from the above with about 27 ohms source impedance , you can deduce what 
the level will be with various phones.

I use Sony MDR V6 phones which are about 70 ohm drivers and not very 
sensitive (I cannot remmember the spec right now) and the cw spot tone level 
to me is marginal.

With input signal as above S9 , Maximum output level open circuit wide open
1.2 volts RMS , about 3.5 V pk-pk  and no visible clipping  of clipping. All 
measurements on a FLuke 179 true RMS meter.

I know of seceral guys who have done what was suggested and they just use 
the speaker output with appropriate attenuation. You of course lose the 
ability to listen to the sub rx in one ear and the main rx in the other ear 
but you solve a whole lot of other issues.

73 de Hank K7HP

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj at weather.net>
To: <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Head-Phone volume in Orion2


> On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 18:58 -0500, Stuart Rohre wrote:
>> Use higher impedance headphones, they are more sensitive.
>> Stuart
>> K5KVH
>
> Not at all necessarily. The original post said 97DB/milliwatt, which
> shows high power sensitivity. Higher impedance will just raise the
> required voltage, though if the driver has a large series resistor, a
> higher impedance headset might receive more power and be louder. There
> are too many schematics in the Orion2 set to casually trace out the
> hardware and see what that output resistance might be.
>
> It might be that raising the voltage to the headset would work for a
> particular headset with a step up transformer. That will work best if
> the headset connection is driven by a solid state audio amp that has
> lots of feedback to give it a low output impedance with no headset
> protecting series resistor.
>
> A sure cure is in the firmware. Maybe in some custom settings, which
> ought to be customizable for the varying voltage sensitivity of
> different headsets.
>
> Another sure cure is adding a series resistor, speaker pot, or L-pad to
> the room speaker line and dropping its level to match the headphones but
> requires turning up the master volume control which made drive the
> speaker amplifier into clipping.
>
> 73, Jerry, K0CQ
>
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