[TenTec] Problem on 160 meters, Whats up?

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Fri Mar 20 06:16:51 PDT 2009



The article was in the April 2002 issue. When on the ARRL site, you can query for article name, or author or date. 



Dave 

WA3MKB 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Harwood" <scotthsr at earthlink.net> 
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com> 
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:44:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Problem on 160 meters, Whats up? 

Thanks, Bob.  Actually, I should have pointed out in my original post the loop was designed for max performance on 80 meters and above.  I have a separate 160 meter antenna system.  I was just agreeing that the BT1500 does not perform well on small antennas on 160. 

Also, please advise what date Kirk Kleinschmidt's article appeared in QST.  I'd like to review it. 

Regards, 

Scott K4VWK   

-----Original Message----- 
>From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com> 
>Sent: Mar 19, 2009 1:09 PM 
>To: tentec at contesting.com 
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Problem on 160 meters, Whats up? 
> 
>Hmmm interesting Scott; don't hold me to this but your loop may be 
>just a wee bit too small. If you could add another 70 feet to it and 
>get it up to 0.8 wave for 160 then maybe the palstar could handle it 
>if the components have the range.  I have a friend who runs a BT1500 
>on 160 at 1.5 kw but his loop is around 500 feet long.   I'm planning 
>on getting one of those MFJ balanced RF amp meters too. 
> 
>To the fellow with the AT5K, yes, the AT line of Palstars are 
>unbalanced--read Kirk Kleinschmidt's QST article A Balanced Every Day 
>Approach to All-Band Bliss on how all his problems with RFI etc went 
>away when he switched from an unbalanced tuner to a true balanced one 
>(two parallel variable Ls and one or two variable caps across them) 
>for feeding his window line and loop.  The article chronicles his 
>migration from a horiz. loop fed with coax and a SGC smart tuner and 
>balun on the high Z side to window line, balanced tuner and a 1:1 unun 
>on the low Z 50 ohm side. 
> 
>The unbalanced tuner mfr's are crafty--they may say something like "my 
>tuner will work with a balanced feedline" which is true depending on 
>how you define "work" but they won't say "my tuner is balanced" which 
>is what you need. 
> 
>73 
> 
>rob / k5uj 
> 
><<<Not intending to be repetitive, but I also have a BT1500A and 
>concur it is an 
>excellent, well built tuner.  I use it with a 350 ft. horizontal loop fed with 
>600 ohm parallel line.  Works fine on 80 throught 10 meters.  It does not work 
>well on 160.  I also use a MFJ in-line balanced RF ammeter, and it sure is nice 
>to see equal readings on each leg of the line when tuning the antenna with the 
>BT1500A. 
> 
>Scott K4VWK>>> 
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