[TenTec] Final Firmware O2

Rsoifer at aol.com Rsoifer at aol.com
Thu Nov 12 08:11:07 PST 2009 

Guys,
 
While we're on the subject of performance comparisons, I see that the  
latest test data on Rob Sherwood's web site compares the O II from 2006 against  
the K3 and Flex 5000 from 2008.  All three rigs have had numerous  
firmware/software changes since then, so in fact we don't really know who's  on 
first, or by how much.
 
This is not meant as criticism of Rob, who posts this info as a public  
service.  It's simply a fact, or rather the absence of facts.
 
Does anybody have truly current data to share?
 
73 Ray W2RS
 
 
In a message dated 11/12/2009 2:38:33 P.M. GMT Standard Time,  
OTAKEBI at aol.com writes:

I love  my OMNI V and Corsair II.
They seem to work better than my Collins KWM-2 my  Drake TR-4Cw and my  
Collins 380.
I like to use and fix all of  them.
Seems they all do what I need them to do.
I like my Ten Tecs  because I get to talk with the guys at Ten Tec and I  
like the yearly  Fest.
If you notice all my rigs are made in the good old USA.
That makes  me happy.
Dan/N4VET


In a message dated 11/11/2009 10:55:24 P.M.  Eastern Standard Time,  
wn3vaw at verizon.net writes:

Well,  I  don't know about that.  But I do know a local K3 owner, who is  a
world  class DX'er and contester, who favored his Omni VI for day  to  day
operation, until the radio was accidentally  destroyed.   

-----Original Message-----
From:  tentec-bounces at contesting.com   
[mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
On Behalf Of  kc9cdt at aol.com
Sent:  Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:59 PM
To:  tentec at contesting.com
Subject:  Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware  O2


It is my understanding that the K3  is a superb CW  rig...but not even in 
the
same ballpark as OII for  SSB???
Am I  missinformed?
73,
Lee,  KC9CDT




-----Original  Message-----
From: Douglas Shock   <douglas.shock at gmail.com>
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment   <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2009 6:09  pm
Subject:  Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware O2



that is  correct...
On Wed,  Nov 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Philip C.   Anderson
xtraham58 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
Not that it matters  to  me, but it is my understanding that ON4UN is now
using 2  loaded  K'3s.

> From: marsh at ka5m.net
> To:  tentec at contesting.com;  douglas.shock at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov  2009 12:10:27 -0600
>  Subject: Re: [TenTec] Final Firmware  O2
>
>  Douglas,
>
> What is your source of  information for your following  statement?
>
> "If it was  such a great and finished product then  why did most if not  
all
of
> the Ham Radio's Top contest-DX operators  bail on  TenTec?"
>
> What did they bail to?
>
> The   National Contest Journal July/August 2009 Volume 37 Number 4   
contains
an
> extensive article on "Choosing an HF Radio for  Serious  Contesting and
> DXing". Of the four (4) transceivers the  author picks,  the Ten-Tec ORION
II
> is one of  them.
>
> I'm not  convinced that I've ever missed a DX or  contest QSO that I could
> have  worked if I had been using  something better than my ORION II.
>
>  73,
> Marsh,  KA5M
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From:  tentec-bounces at contesting.com   [mailto:
tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Douglas   Shock
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:02 AM
> To:  Scott  Harwood; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re:  [TenTec] Final  Firmware O2
>
> Whiners? Do you really feel  that was required  Scott? So your level of
> expectation on a  delivered product is  different than others. I 
personally
> find no  fault in OI-OII owners  holding TenTec's feet to the fire on the
>  marketing campaign they used  for both radios. that hardly makes me  a
whiner.
> If it was such a  great and finished product then  why did most if not all
of
> the Ham  Radio's Top contest-DX  operators bail on TenTec? Maybe they knew
>  something you  don't?
>
> Sure, in its base form it is a fair  radio. But  face the facts man...you
> really believe they got the  firmware  right? And to release a beta with
> enhancements that in   themselves are broke but no fixes and then are 
never
> heard from  again?  Sounds like the joke is on the operator if you support
>  this business  practice.
>
> So drive on if you still drink  the TenTec coolaid or  just find it
necessary
> to defend your  spent monies. But respect the  rights of others homie...
>
>  Hiding behind your keyboard with big  mouth and no accountability is not 
 a
> good  thing.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11,  2009 at 7:25 AM, Scott  Harwood
>  <scotthsr at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
> > I  couldn't  have said it better, Dennis.
> >
> > Good job. I  hope  enough "whiners" read it.
> >
> > Palstar does have   great stuff. I have two tuners. They could improve 
on
> >  answering  emails, though.
> >
> > Scott K4VWK
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
> > >From:  Dennis OConnor  <ad4hk2004 at yahoo.com>
> > >Sent: Nov  11, 2009 8:37  AM
> > >To: tentec at contesting.com
> >  >Subject:  [TenTec] Final Firmware O2
> > >
> >  >Hmmm, some of  you need to cut back on the coffee...
> >  >
> > >The  O2 is a fine radio, well positioned in the  upper reaches of  ham
radio
> > transceivers...
> >  >The biggest whine I  see is that they are not producing enough  
firmware
> > changes to  make you happy..
> > >It  appears that some believe the K3 radio  with its rapid parade of
>  > firmware revisions is somehow superior  because it needs  frequent
revising
> -
> > this does not  bespeak  superior, to me; adaptable maybe, a secondary
hobby
>   in
> > it's own right, but not necessarily  superior......
>  > >
> > >Then I read the  moaning about the O2 sweep; and  they didn't do this,
they
>  > didn't do that, etc...
> >  >Last time I checked the ads  the K3 does not have a sweep screen...  
But
> > somehow, not  having a sweep screen makes it the superior  radio, 
because
> >  Orion is not upgrading its sweep screen fast  enough - the logic of  
that
> > escapes me...
> > >If you  want a radio  with a fancy sweep screen get a Pro III...
> > >If  you want  an even fancier sweep screen get an LP PAN for your  
Orion
/
>  > K3...
> > >
> > >If you want  an even  fancier radio get one of the $11K to $13K models
> from
>   > the land of the rising sun - but don't expect the factory to answer   
the
> > phone and put the technician that built and aligned  your  radio on the
> phone
> > to talk you through a  problem - which  both Orion and Elecraft do
> >  routinely...
> > >
>  > >I happen to have the  O2... I have looked hard at the K3 with the  
more
> > capable  sub receiver - as recently as 2 weeks ago... But,  the less
> >  desirable ergonomics of the radio outweigh the receiver  advantage and 
 I
> > opted to stay with the Orion for the third  year... The O2  has the best
> > combination of receiver and  ergonomics I have  found in 45 years of ham
> > radio...
> >  >
>  > >Lastly, I am thrilled to have Ten Tec and Elecraft  slugging it  out 
in
the
> > ham radio arena... A vast improvement  over  the import radios that have
> > dominated the ham business for   some time..
> > >And while I am mentioning US companies, let  me  point out that PALSTAR
> > acquired the Commander amplifiers  and has  put considerable time,
> innovation,
> > and  money, into  improving those amps until they appear to me, to be  
the
> best
>  > amps in the business... They now have a  complete line of tuners,  
meters
> and
> > high  quality amps... You could do a lot worse  than spend your  ham
dollars
> > with them - and drive that amp  with a new O2  or K3...
> > >
> > >denny / k8do
>  >  >
> > >
> > >
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