[TenTec] High speed washer hum/whine

Gary Hoffman ghoffman at spacetech.com
Thu Feb 4 17:27:14 PST 2010


Yes....the newest code does indeed require this.

Not all local inspectors do though.

And of course the bathroom (and the kitchen maybe?) have to be on GFI 
circuits as I recall.

Sure is different from the old days.

73 de Gary, AA2IZ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Brown" <ken.d.brown at hawaiiantel.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] High speed washer hum/whine


> And, since were talking about electrical panels and washing machines,
> NEC states that the laundry must have a dedicated circuit for the
> washing machine, with it's own dedicated neutral and ground wire all the
> way back to the load center panel and dedicated breaker for that
> circuit. Sorry, my copy of NEC is at work, so I can't quote the section.
> Maybe someone else who has a copy of the NEC, or has paid the
> subscription to view it online, can check and confirm whether I
> completely correct on this.
>
> DE N6KB
>
> CSM(r) Gary Huber - AB9M wrote:
>> And if you have more than one electrical panel, only the first panel 
>> (Main
>> Distribution Panel) has a Neutral - Ground bonding screw in place. All 
>> sub
>> panels are to have the neutral - ground bonding screw removed (frequently
>> not done).
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Gary - AB9M
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jim Brown K9YC" <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 4:14 PM
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] High speed washer hum/whine
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:27:36 -0600, Stuart Rohre wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The problem may be Variable
>>>> Speed Drives in the appliance, lots of modulated semiconductors
>>>> controlling the motor for "Green" efficiency.  Oh, the laws of
>>>> unintended consequences from the environmentalists!
>>>>
>>> Don't blame environmentalists -- it's lousy circuit design.
>>>
>>>
>>>> There are no guarantees with line filters.
>>>>
>>> This doesn't sound like a line filtering issue, but it DOES sound
>>> like possibly improper connections of neutral and the power system
>>> green wire, or a missing power system green wire, of missing bonds
>>> of station ground to the rest of what's grounded. These improper
>>> connections could be in the shack or at the appliance.
>>>
>>> Some things to check. 1) Make sure that the green wire is bonded
>>> to the chassis at the power supplies, AND where the power supply
>>> is plugged into the AC outlet. 2) Make sure that the chassis
>>> (green wire) is NOT connected to the neutral.  3) Make sure that
>>> your power system ground (green wire) is bonded to everything else
>>> in your station, and that every chassis in your station is bonded
>>> together. 4) Make sure that the common point of your station
>>> chassis bonds (grounds) is tied to the ground rods for your
>>> antenna system, your shack, the power system ground rod, and the
>>> ground for Telco and CATV arrestors.
>>>
>>> Look for #1 and #2 at the appliance that is generating the noise.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Jim K9YC
>>>
>>>
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