[TenTec] wither CW?

[Phil Chambley Sr.]

I'm not a contester, Carl.

Is there actually such a category?  Is there a difference in reward?

Phil C. Sr.
k4dpk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "N4PY2" <n4py2 at earthlink.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?


> If you use CW skimmer or the packet cluster in a contest, that puts you in 
> a
> different category called "assisted".
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 121 Little Bell Dr
> Hays, NC 28635
> www.n4py.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Graves" <jh.graves at verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>
>
>> Not to be combative but.....
>>
>> why is different than someone using cw skimmer along with an automated
>> contest program so the only code involved 99% of the time is which
>> function key needs to pushed.  I will admit that a very high percentage
>> of contesters can copy the code and are utilizing technology to increase
>> the score.  If you allow one then why not the other?  I don't believe
>> that the rules require anyone to actually copy the code by hand.
>>
>> John / WA1JG
>>
>>
>> Phil Chambley Sr. wrote:
>>>
>>>  Possibly I didn't clarify my point to the extent necessary.  I have
>>> nothing
>>> against the use of keyers, bugs (I use both) or even keyboards for
>>> sending.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But nowadays one can find a DX station's frequency on a cluster, have 
>>> the
>>> computer copy him and then press a button to send a canned transmission,
>>> and
>>> do all this without being able to copy his own name at 5 wpm.  These are
>>> the
>>> ones to which I referred, and I think there should be a scoring
>>> difference
>>> for those, compared to folks who actually do know the code at whatever
>>> level.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It bothers me to hear someone say he worked  a station on CW, when in
>>> fact
>>> he can't copy or send at any speed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil C. Sr.
>>>
>>> k4dpk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "N4PY2" <n4py2 at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nobody that is at all serious about contesting uses a straight key.  I
>>>> know
>>>> many contesters, many who are highly skilled at CW.  They all use 
>>>> keyers
>>>> with memories to send their CQ's and copy in their heads to get the
>>>> QSO's.
>>>> All these people can easily copy CW at 40+ wpm in their heads.  The
>>>> keyers
>>>> are just a mechanism to send the CW with.  It is almost impossible to
>>>> send
>>>> CW at 20 wpm or higher with a straight key.  They do not use code
>>>> readers.
>>>> Code readers are useless during typical QRM during a contest.
>>>>
>>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>>>> 121 Little Bell Drive
>>>> Hays, NC 28635
>>>> www.n4py.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Richards" <jruing at ameritech.net>
>>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to hijack the thread or cause a flame war,  but I agree
>>>>> with the notion there should be more points awarded to contesters
>>>>> (contestants?) who actually pound out the code with their fist, and 
>>>>> who
>>>>> do not use electronic keyers to generate transmitted code.  I thank we
>>>>> should reward the operator for HIS skill, not that of his computer.  I
>>>>> know this would slow the pace, and reduce the number of contacts,  but
>>>>> it would be the operator, and not his computer at work.   If contests,
>>>>> like field day, are to simulate high pressure, need to operate NOW,
>>>>> scenarios, then  he would need to have his own ability to pound the
>>>>> brass, as a computer may not be available. I don't use a voice keyer 
>>>>> on
>>>>> SSB contests for the same reason.  If I can't talk for 24 hours, and
>>>>> the
>>>>> other guy can, he deserves to win.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, parenthetically, I'm finding this code thing terribly difficult
>>>>> to
>>>>> learn!
>>>>> But I will get there, eventually...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my take....
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy trails.
>>>>>
>>>>> ====================  Richards - K8JHR ====================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2010 4:56 PM, Jim Brown K9YC wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Virtually ALL serious contesters use computers to SEND CW,
>>>>>> but the vast majority I know of use the computer between
>>>>>> his/her ears to COPY it.
>>>>>>
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>> -- 
>> John Graves
>> WA1JG
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