[TenTec] 566 Orion II Firmware Version V3.029 ---SpectrumDisplay &Tuning...

Tue Apr 24 07:45:05 PDT 2012

So...I wander when the standard changed??
In my Collins 75S-3 and KWM-2 book...it says 100uv = S-9??
73,
Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: k3miy <k3miy at csonline.net>
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 10:28 am
Subject: Re: [TenTec] 566 Orion II Firmware Version V3.029 
---SpectrumDisplay &Tuning...

Hi Kim

The S meter WOULD move! It would go to S-7, assuming correct
calibration. Fifty microvolts=S-9 is the calibration standard.

Ron
K3MIY

Quoting Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>:

> Wait a minute... By way of example, do you mean to say that if I
> injected a 50 uV signal into the antenna terminals of the OII I'd see
> an S9 indication and that if I then selected 12 dB of attenuation via
> the front panel, the S-meter wouldn't move?
>
> Kim N5OP
>
> At 09:02 AM 4/24/2012, you wrote:
> >Yes the ATTN and Pre functions do change the S METER READING.  
However
> >even then with those changes S-9 still equals 50 uV.  There is a
> >difference in S meter reading and S meter calibration.
> >
> >73
> >Bob, K4TAX
> >
> >
> >
> > > On my Orion II...the ATTn and pre-amp changes the s meter reading 
a
> > > lot??
> > > What do you mean on TT radios the same is true of the ATTN and 
Pre-amp
> > > as to the s-9 = 50uv?
> > > Thanks,
> > > 73,
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX <RMcGraw at Blomand.net>
> > > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 11:48 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] 566 Orion II Firmware Version V3.029
> > > ---SpectrumDisplay &Tuning...
> > >
> > >
> > > I usually find a spot on the band where there is no signal, no 
QRM or
> > > splatter and with the antenna of choice.  Turn the RF Gain up to 
the
> > > point
> > > you see the noise flicker on the S meter.  Note that level say 
S-6.   I
> > > normally use th SLW  AGC as it makes the S meter a bit easier to 
read
> > > peaks.
> > > Then I usually switch the radio to my dummy load and then adjust 
the RF
> > > Gain
> > > such that the S meter indicates about 1 S unit lower than the 
previous
> > > noted
> > > level or about S-5.  Then back to the antenna.  To me that 
optomizes
> > > the
> > > gain for the antenna and noise.
> > >
> > > With a bit of practice one can set the RF Gain just looking at 
the S
> > > meter
> > > values and backing the RF Gain down as one gets a "feel" for what 
is
> > > taking
> > > place.  All the other steps are "just to make it easy" and 
repetitive.
> > >
> > > Just remember, with Tentec radios the S meter always references 
S-9 as
> > > being
> > > equal to ~50uV regardless of RF Gain values.  Same is true with 
the
> > > ATTN
> > > function engaged at some value or the Preamp engaged.
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Bob, K4TAX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kim Elmore" <cw_de_n5op at sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] 566 Orion II Firmware Version
> > > V3.029 ---SpectrumDisplay &Tuning...
> > >
> > >
> > >>I tried this with my OII, think that I must have missed 
something. I
> > >> simply never see the S-meter drop and then rise as I decrease RF
> > >> gain. Of course, it will drop if I turn off the preamp, but not 
as I
> > >> change the RF gain setting using the multi knob.  What I see is 
that
> > >> the minimum S-meter reading rises as RF gain is reduced (as if 
the
> > >> AGC voltage is being increased which is, in some sense, what's
> > >> happening).  At some point the minimum S-meter reading is above 
the
> > >> maximum deflection due to static crashes. Then, any signals 
stronger
> > >> than the static crashes will lead to an upward deflection.  Am I
> > >> missing something subtle? Does anyone else see the S-meter drop 
then
> > >> rise as the RF gain is decreased?
> > >>
> > >> I set my SAF by ear as per the TT instructions, decreasing RF 
gain
> > >> until I hear only a little ringing. Even though I am almost
> > >> exclusively CW, I tried it a couple of times on SSB was 
surprised how
> > >> much it helped on weak signals.
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >>
> > >> Kim N5OP
> > >>
> > >> At 02:38 PM 4/23/2012, you wrote:
> > >>>A visual clue for setting RF Gain is the S-meter.   While 
listening to
> > >>>just noise, as you decrease the RF-Gain, the S-meter noise level
> > > drops,
> > >>>and continues to drop, until you reach a point where the S-meter
> > >>>reverses and starts to climb - while the RF-Gain continues to be
> > > turned
> > >>>down.   Thus, there is a point where the S-meter changes 
direction
> > > while
> > >>>the RF-Gain is still being turned down.   (Sorry... I find this
> > >>>difficult to say in words...)   The point where the S-meter 
reverses
> > > is
> > >>>the sweet spot   (although I find it is really just above that
> > > point...)
> > >>>
> > >>>Play with it and you will SEE what I mean.   I think you will 
find the
> > >>>S-meter reverses just at or just below the point where you can 
HEAR it
> > >>>change over.
> > >>>
> > >>>I have an Omni VII and this works on it --  I spent time on my
> > > friend's
> > >>>Orion II and it seemed to work exactly the same way, albeit at
> > > different
> > >>>points on the dial.   ...snip...
> > >>
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