[TenTec] Just an observation

Jerry Haigwood jerry at w5jh.net
Mon Jun 25 17:55:08 PDT 2012


Art,
    It could be the K3 transmitter was very clean and the OMNI 6+ was not.
It doesn't always mean one receiver was better than the other.
Jerry W5JH

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com]
On Behalf Of art davis
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 6:47 PM
To: TenTec reflector
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Just an observation


I operated from a 2F station this weekend where the fone rig was a K3 and
the cw rig was an OMNI 6+. The antennas were no more than 75 ft apart, a
ground mounted vertical and a low dipole at about 20ft. There were bandpass
filters on the front end of both radios. The K3 was practically unusable
whenever the OMNI was transmitting, but the OMNI never knew the K3 was
there. Hmmm.....

> From: ko7i at comcast.net
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 15:43:32 -0700
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Just an observation
> 
> Jim,
> This past weekend I sat in on one of those "Please copy..." rag 
> chewers at the mic doing exactly that - then his dentures fell out. It 
> was funnier than hell.
> I went back to where I belonged... the CW tent!
> We used my OMNI VI opt 1 for the CW station at W7PIG (3A WWA). My VI 
> has the CW roofing filter mod from INRAD installed. We had 250 ft 
> between the SSB Tower and the CW Tower. The CW tri-band Yagi was 
> looking right up the rear of the SSB tri-band yagi (with a HF 
> tri-plexer). We were able to operate with two stations (CW & SSB) on 
> the same band at the same time. It worked flawlessly.
> The SSB stations had my TS-590 and another guy's IC-756 ProII. These 
> radio's held up fine too. The FT-857's got blew off the air by the 
> CW/Dig Station when operating on the same band.
> I ran a little over 700 qso's on CW with 17 hrs of air time, lost 5 
> hrs to digital, they came very close to the goal of 30 qso's per hour. 
> They were a
> IC-756 non-pro on that rig. 
> Overall I may be changing my mind on selling my Omni VI opt 1 - it did 
> a fine job and was a real warrior.
> I used a WinKey USB II keyer and N3FJP FD logger.
> 73, Don
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Brown [mailto:k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:42 AM
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Just an observation
> 
> On 6/25/2012 10:09 AM, Robert Mcgraw wrote:
> > There's two kinds of folks, "those that know what they are doing" 
> > and "those that think they know what they are doing".
> 
> Field Day is one of those ham events where folks who haven't done 
> anything but rag chew on 75M since Field Day a couple of years ago 
> come out to hang out, picnic, down some 807s, and try to work Field 
> Day the way they did 30 years ago.  Naturally, they expect to sit down 
> in front of a radio that looks and acts like the one they used 30 years
ago too.
> And since they're old timers, they don't need no stinkin' manual, and 
> they sure don't want to ask anyone how to use the radio (or the computer).
> 
> FWIW, I'm an OT too, a very active contester, and I've used a lot of 
> different rigs over the years, but any time I sit down to someone 
> else's station I ALWAYS study what's there, ask questions, and ask 
> them to sit with me for a while if I don't know the rig, the antenna 
> switching, or the computer software.
> 
> If you think they're bad trying to figure out the radio, you oughtta 
> hear them on the air.  A NORMAL FD exchange on CW goes something like
this.
> 
> Me:   CQ FD K6MI  (that's where I was)
> Him: K9OR
> Me:  K9OR 1A SCV
> Him: 3A IL
> Me:  TU K6MI
> 
> That takes about 15 seconds.
> 
> With the guy who hasn't been on the air much, it goes more like this.
> 
> Me:  CQ FD K6MI
> Him: K6MI DE K9XYZ K9XYZ (at 15 wpm)
> Me:  K9XYZ 1A SCV
> Him: K6MI DE K9XYZ PSE COPY 3A 3A IL IL DE K9XYZ 73 GL (at 15wpm)
> Me:  TU K6MI
> 
> And I'm gritting my teeth through 45 seconds when I could have made 
> two more QSOs with someone who knew what they were doing.
> 
> I've gotten to the point where I'm almost ready to delete any contact 
> that includes "Please copy" from my log.  Where do people come up with 
> lid-isms like this?
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC.
> 
> 
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