[TenTec] Built in SWR meter bannans

Al Gulseth wb5jnc at centurytel.net
Tue Apr 23 16:52:49 EDT 2013


Jim,

TNX for the info. Does it matter whether the THHN is solid or stranded? What 
core size do you recommend (I'm guessing 2" or so)? Also, (purely from 
a "dumb questions dept." perspective) would a ferrite rod of the correct mix 
be suitable, or does it definitely need to be a toroid? 

73, Al

On Tue April 23 2013 11:54:58 am Jim Brown wrote:
> On 4/22/2013 12:15 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
> > With openwire you can build a CMC choke just as easily as with coax.
>
> It's not clear to me what sort of choke you are imagining, but it is
> trivially easy to build a VERY effective common mode choke by first
> taping together a pair of insulated conductors to form a parallel wire
> transmission line, then winding enough turns of that pair around a #31
> or #43 toroid to place the high resistive impedance that results from
> resonance where it is needed.  16 turns (x2) of such a line made from
> #12 THHN (ordinary house wire) on a #31 core is a VERY effective choke
> from 1 MHz to about 15 MHz. 12 turns on the same core makes a fine choke
> for 3-30 MHz.
>
> Such a choke is a short length of transmission line, with Zo on the
> order of 90 ohms, Vf on the order of 0.66, and VERY low loss below 30
> MHz (the loss is all copper, and #12 is bigger than most coax. THHN
> insulation starts introducing dielectric loss above that range. I've
> measured all of these parameters with real chokes. It's difficult to get
> much precision, but I trust the data to about 25%, which is certainly
> good enough for our purposes. The short length of line (2.5 ft - 3 ft)
> introduces some small mismatch, and the result can easily be modeled in
> software like Sim Smith, which runs in Java and is free. To do the
> model, you will, of course, need to measure and import the antenna Z or
> provide comparable data from an NEC model. I've done both.
>
> For all practical purposes, the mismatch doesn't matter -- the length is
> too small as a fraction of a wavelength, and it's at the load end.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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>
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