[TenTec] TEN-TEC SSB NETS TOMORROW

Sun Feb 24 02:18:07 EST 2013

I am kinda confused.   As part of a team that holds a record in the 
Michigan QSO party, I thought I understood how these QSO Parties work. 
  I cannot imagine how they could conduct a state QSO Party on a single 
frequency, unless its was sort of a dud.   I presume it works like the 
Michigan and Ohio QSO Parties, in that the entire band could be consumed 
by a myriad of operators - they won't be confined to just one frequency.

So why the fuss?   How is this different from any other Sunday?   At any 
time, the frequency could be in use by other operators, QSO Party or 
not, and if someone is working our frequency, either they QSY to another 
frequency, or we do.  We could encounter this problem at any time on any 
day.

Please, I am a relatively new guy on the team, asking a serious 
question.  This is not a flame or critical argument.   Am I missing 
something here?   Is this really such a special case ?

Thank you.
__________________ K8JHR ______________________

On 2/23/2013 7:17 PM, Robert Johnston wrote:
> Marty,
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> Thanks for correcting my mis-take of what you meant. I have replied to all
> the reflectors but some are not ones I subscribe to and so were bounced
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> I also see what you mean about it may be difficult to find any nearby
> frequency and why staying on 7.260 would be better. Would moving quite a bit
> farther up than 7260 and announcing it work,  like 7.285 or just to go with
> 7.260? I am not sure of what if any other nets are on at that time.
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> 73,
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> Rob K9AIM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: w4my at reagan.com [mailto:w4my at reagan.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:32 PM
> To: robj22020 at gmail.com
> Subject: RE: [TenTec_Eagle] RE: [TenTec] TEN-TEC SSB NETS TOMORROW
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> I'm the one that wrote to John, merely to let him know, for his own
> edification, that the  NC QSO Party was going to be happening on the same
> day as the TT net, and that ON OR AROUND 7260KHz was the announced NCQP 40M
> SSB frequency.
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> AT NO TIME did I request, mention, elude to, require, or even hint, that the
> TT net move to another frequency.  John, ON HIS OWN, subsequently decided to
> move the TT net, even after follow up discussions with me that this was not
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> I MADE NO REQUEST THAT THE NET FIND ANOTHER FREQUENCY.
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> I don't think John really understands how QSO Party contests work in context
> with the "announced frequency".  The NCQP makes no claim to own or have
> priority over ANY FREQUENCY!  He moved the net on his own accord because he
> seems to think the whole QSO party will be conducted like a net, on 7260.
> This announced frequency is, in fact, just a loose approximate location
> where all NC stations spread out around to call CQ and work stations in the
> contest.  A "pin on a map" so to speak.
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> I couldn't convince John that the BEST THING FOR THE NET TO DO IS TO STAY ON
> 7260!!!  The only difference is that he needs to be aware that the QRM will
> be much higher tomorrow, and that everyone has to kind of put up with it and
> play nice!  THAT'S ALL!
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> I brought this conflict of frequencies to John's attention ONLY as a
> courtesy to him that he have the best situational awareness possible.
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> If you could forward this response to the other reflectors that you copied
> in your original message (I only subscribe to the Eagle list) I would
> appreciate it.
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> Kind Regards
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> Marty Young / W4MY
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> Chairman, NC QSO Party
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: "Robert Johnston" < <mailto:robj22020 at gmail.com> robj22020 at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:42pm
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> Subject: [TenTec_Eagle] RE: [TenTec] TEN-TEC SSB NETS TOMORROW
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> When John wrote he agreed to give the NC QSO party the frequency, I don't
> think he meant he felt he or our net owns the frequency (nor for that matter
> that the NC QSO party does), just that he was accommodating their request
> that our net find an alternative frequency this week. He could have replied
> to them that they did not own the frequency but only have an equal right to
> it - but that would have created bad conditions for all parties involved and
> probably some bad feelings.
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> There probably are as you say some nets under the misguided understanding
> that they own particular frequencies, but what they really mean is they have
> enough numbers to force others to QSY or endure heavy QRM
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> Rob K9AIM
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> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TEN-TEC SSB NETS TOMORROW
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> I hate to spoil everyone's fun, but the frequency is not yours to give away.
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> we all have equal right to any freq we are licensed for. I love Ten Tec and
> have an Orion and have owned corsair II's and Pegasus, triton delta, century
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> 21 and more, but I still don't own any frequency, contrary to what the folks
> at 14.230 and 14.300 think.  ( unless they declare an emergency  and request
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> a freq stay clear.) I'm just sayin..   tom N6AJR
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> In a message dated 2/23/2013 3:29:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> <mailto:k3ur at att.net> k3ur at att.net writes:
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> The North Carolina QSO Party had planned their all day event for February
> 24th on 7.260 LSB a long time ago, prior to my starting up the TEN-TEC nets
> last April 2012, after several years of no TEN-TEC nets.
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> I have agreed to allow Marty W4MY and their Group to have 7.260 for their
> event. We shall see how active the 40 meter band is and I will move our 40
> meter TEN-TEC net either 5 kHz up or down from 7.260.
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> Our 40 meter net starts at 20:00 UTC and the 20 meter net follows at 21:00
> UTC on 14.325 USB. It would be a good thing for all of our net members to
> give the NC QSO Party a checkin prior to our net. Thank you.
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> John, K3UR
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> John D. Occhipinti, K3UR
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> Net Control, TEN-TEC SSB Nets
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