[TenTec] WTB: Older Jupiter

John jh.graves at verizon.net
Tue Jan 15 15:17:47 EST 2013


As an owner of a Jupiter, I can say that the DSP works well.  However, 
it does represent 7-8 year old technology.  I personally would suggest 
that if you want to see how well DSP implementation now works, that the 
earlier suggestion that you try an Eagle for shipping costs, as the 
easiest way to test and most representative way to go.

John / WA1JG

I view the DSP technology used in the Jupiter is quite different than the
DSP technology used in the currrent Omni VII or the Eagle radios.  Buying
a used Juipter will most likely not be represenative of the DSP
implementation as used today.









> I did consider Ten-Tec 30 day trial offer.
>
> But for me, I am not so sure about DSP based radios. From my limited
> exposure to them I have found the sound to be thin, and digital, with
> grating band noise, and weird artifacts. Almost all of them have
> receiver AGC distortion on very short, strong noise pulses, and ALC
> overshoot issues on transmit.
>
> Now, I haven't heard a Ten-Tec DSP based radio in person, much less used
> one for an extended period of time. I have always had a soft spot for
> Ten-Tec and owned an Argonaut 509 years ago. My memories of that rig are
> great except for the annoying AGC pops. I have always wanted to try
> other Ten-Tec models but have just never done so. So now is the time.
>
> I am not sure that 30 days will be enough for me to fully determine a
> radio's quirks, and all radios have quirks. I also suspect that Ten-Tec
> will be replacing the Omni VII in the not too distant future and
> therefore a used Omni VII would represent better value to me than a new
> one.
>
> I can purchase an older bare bones Jupiter for about a fifth of the
> price of a new Omni VII. If I like the Jupiter, I can buy a used Omni
> VII for about two-thirds of the price of a new one. I will be able to
> resell the Jupiter for close to what I paid for it. So the total loss of
> this venture will not be so bad.
>
> If I buy a new Omni VII from Ten-Tec and don't like it and send it back
> I am out the shipping charges; A bit less than my Jupiter experiment,
> but still not a big difference.  Alternately, if I discover after a few
> months of use that I don't like the new Omni VII, then I will take an
> much bigger loss selling it used.
>
> So for me, an old Jupiter is a low cost way to try out a Ten-Tec DSP
> based radio for a few months or so, and really see what it is like. If I
> like it, then move on to a used Omni VII or used Eagle and follow that
> with a new "Omni VIII" or whatever they name the Omni VII's successor.
>
> 73, Darrell VA7TO
>
> Darrell Bellerive
>
> On 13-01-13 11:04 AM, Richards wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/12/2013 1:17 PM, Darrell Bellerive wrote:
>>
>> I just want to try out a Ten-Tec
>>> DSP based rig and an older Jupiter is the most cost effective way to
>>> do
>>> this.   If I like the Jupiter, I will most likely upgrade to an Omni
>>> VII
>>> or Eagle. So I am looking to minimize cost.
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>>      With all respect, I disagree - the BEST WAY to
>>      sample TT technology is to try a New Omni VII
>>      for 30 days.   If you like it, you keep it.
>>      If you don't, you don't.   You pay shipping I think,
>>      but if you try a Jupiter, you buy it, and ship it, and
>>      then when you buy the Omni VII you pay for it
>>      and to ship it, and then when you sell the Jupiter
>>      you pay again to ship it...
>>
>>      Why not just try a new Omni VII ?
>>
>>      I bet you will like it, and keep it, and save all that
>>      buying, selling, shipping, and so forth.
>>
>>      Good luck whatever you do !!!
>>
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