[TenTec] The memory keyer in my Orion still cuts off the first dash of the K at the front of my call. I've tried several suggestions but none work. I'm running the 3.0X software. Any other thoughts?

Ted Bryant w4nz at comcast.net
Sat Sep 21 23:48:42 EDT 2013


Are you storing the message in memory by keying with the paddle or using
software to program the memory?

If you are hearing the chopped character in the Orion monitor have you
verified that it is actually being chopped by listening on another receiver?

I cannot duplicate this with my Orion II.

Ted W4NZ


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Haney
Howell
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:48 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] The memory keyer in my Orion still cuts off the first
dash of the K at the front of my call. I've tried several suggestions but
none work. I'm running the 3.0X software. Any other thoughts?

I did the reset several times before audio returned.  Same problem.  Chops
off first dash.  Back to the trusty external keyer.


On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX
<RMcGraw at blomand.net>wrote:

> Perhaps Carl is correct in that a Master Reset should be done.  I agree,
> the dropping of the first element should not take place.   At present it
> does not occur on the three current production Tentec radios on my desk.
>
> Another clue regarding a suggested Master Reset is the version of 
> firmware being used.  I would presume it was downloaded and installed 
> and a Master Reset was not done.  Although not specifically required, 
> I've found the when changing firmware versions, I prefer to err on the 
> side of "just do a Master Reset" and start from scratch.
>
> As you likely know I do a lot of beta testing thus I'm frequently 
> loading and reloading different versions of firmware.  Thus I'm going 
> back to earlier versions and then to the version under evaluation for 
> several instances.  In doing this, I find it very prudent to always 
> implement a Master Reset.  It gives me a much clearer picture of what I'm
experiencing.
>
> I view this as no different than our computers when we perform a 
> suggested or recommended upgrade.  We often see the message appear,  
> "It is necessary to restart the computer for the changes to take effect".
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> DISCLOSURE:
> This is to inform all persons, I am a Tentec Ambassador and I receive 
> compensation according to the Tentec Ambassador program.  In addition, 
> I serve as a volunteer beta test person to Tentec for the Omni VII, 
> Eagle and Argonaut VI radios.  I hold no employment relationship, no 
> financial interests nor do I conduct any commercial business, direct 
> or indirect, with Tentec.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brown" 
> <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com
> >
> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The memory keyer in my Orion still cuts off the 
> first dash of the K at the front of my call. I've tried several 
> suggestions but none work. I'm running the 3.0X software. Any other
thoughts?
>
>
>
>  On 9/21/2013 12:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
>>
>>> I have had to add some characters in front of a data string to allow 
>>> one of the radios for another application to key up and start
transmitting.
>>>
>>> Now that being the case, as your configuration drops the first dash 
>>> of your call, why not add a "T" in front of your call.  It would 
>>> then drop the "T" and send your call.
>>>
>>> TK2XN.   If the "T" is missing then K2XN would be legally transmitted.
>>>
>>
>> There's a far better cure, and which Ten Tec has used since the Omni A.
>> The cure is to activate  the PTT relay 8-10 msec before sending RF. 
>> In other words, delay RF by 8-10 msec. As I recall, that pre-TX 
>> keying signal is called the "T-line" in that older gear. In some 
>> newer Ten Tec gear you have to go in and find it, then bring it out 
>> to the rear panel. I think I had to do that in my Omni V.  The delay 
>> is built into many other rigs, like the TS-850, FT-1000-series, K2, 
>> and K3. In the FT1000-series and the K3, the delay is adjustable via 
>> a menu. In the 850 and K2, it's fixed at something like 8-10 msec. 
>> I've successfully used an 850, MP, and K3 to key my Titan, Herc II, 
>> and Herc I (long ago sold). And it's even fast enough to follow QSK 
>> up to about 25 wpm. At faster speeds the CW elements get too short.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC



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