[TenTec] OT: Rob Sherwood's impression of the FLEX 6x00

Jim Brown k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com
Wed Apr 23 22:49:58 EDT 2014


Bob,

I rarely quote an entire email, but your post says so many important 
things, and says them so well, that I want to emphasize them.

I have an Elecraft P3, which is a very nice, calibrated  spectrum 
analyzer,  looking at the IF on both  of my K3s. I often see signals 
that are so broad that they are in violation of FCC Rules for spurious 
emissions by a wide margin. I've also got an HP spectrum analyzer.

IMO, it is advertising dollars that cause ARRL to ignore this in their 
product testing, and I think it's long past time that we call them on 
it. I'd guess that more than half of the rigs they have tested fail to 
meet FCC Rules when driving power amp.

73, Jim K9YC

On 4/23/2014 4:55 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
> I too found that I got great audio or great signal reports with one of 
> my radios.    Those glowing audio reports are "on frequency" 
> reports.   I looked at the real output of a radio on my desk and saw 
> all the crap being generated and transmitted some 20 kHz to 30 kHz 
> away.   I find it is the "off frequency" thus adjacent noise and IMD 
> products that create a lot of unnecessary noise and pollution on the 
> bands.  And as users, it is difficult to find the source in many 
> cases.  For normal operation I use a spectrum analyzer connected to 
> the receiver bandpass filter.  With that configuration one can see 
> much of the noise being generated as a certain signal appears and 
> disappears thus correlating the noise change.
>
> As and example, look at the numbers.  Take a given strong signal that 
> is S-9 + 20 dB at your receiver.  Then presume his IMD products are 
> only 35 dB down.  That then says his IMD products are equivalent to a 
> S-6 signal.   I realize that in many cases our local noise level is 
> S-6 but be assured, that stations presumable IMD products contribute 
> to the local noise level as well.
>
> I own one current production and very popular brand/model radio. When 
> this radio is in transmit the noise on all HF bands increase 10 dB to 
> 20 dB. That's right, transmit on 160M and the noise on 10M increases 
> 10 dB.  Put it in a Field Day environment and you'll likely learn some 
> new vocabulary words from other operators.  Put that radio on the same 
> band as another radio and when it is transmitting the other radio on 
> the same band is totally deaf.
>
> Yes, it is time to start a clean up of our spectrum. Unfortunately, 
> many of the older radios are major contributors and even some of the 
> new current technology ones aren't much if any better.  And then 
> there's the operator issues, taking a marginally spectrally clean 
> radio and adding 10 dB to 12 dB of gain via a linear amp that may not 
> be tuned correctly thus amplifying and generating more pollution.



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