[TenTec] List of Pan-Adapter Features

[Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP]

Barry,

It is really quite fascinating, what all you can see and do with it, but as
you wrote, you "can watch the panadapter" after clicking on stations in the
bandmap.  The bandmap found you the stations, not the pan-adapter.

Do you actually do that (normally), or did you just do it because the ANAN
was new and interesting to play with?

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I can't see how looking at the
pan-adapter is doing anything to improve your score.  So indeed, OUTSIDE of
the contest it would be a lot of fun, but in the contest, we're busy
clicking in the band map and working DX. 

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 1:04 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] List of Pan-Adapter Features

For your viewing enjoyment, somewhat related to contesting with a
panadapter:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb8OfiL3crE  - please choose
720p HD (gear icon at lower right of taskbar) and full screen (bottom right
icon), and listen with stereo headphones.

I'm clicking on spots on my N1MM bandmap and you can watch the panadapter as
I skip around and work stations.  Receiver is at 2.1KHz dsp bandwidth, which
I find ideal for contesting (easy on the ears).

This is the only contest I used the SDR radio (ANAN-100D) in.  I quickly
went back to the Orion afterward and got rid of the SDR, due to
latency/bugs.  But its receiver was amazing.

73, Barry N1EU

On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de> wrote:

> TNX Barry
>
> Dunno why I forgot the 2nd RX aspect of it, as I plan to use that 
> feature myself.
> Just an oversight I guess.  I'll add it.
>
>
> I'm sure you are familiar with the Band-Map but I will describe it in 
> detail here for those who are not:
>
> I run Win-Test contest logging software but I assume N1MM is similar.
> The Band-Map is fully integrated into the Win-Test software, so it is 
> for free.
>
> The Band-Map within the logging software is fed by telnet feed(s) and 
> maps onto whatever band I am on.
> It maps vertically, so displayed call signs do not overlap each other 
> like they can on a crowded band when mapping onto a band scope.  As I 
> turn the VFO knob on the radio, the analog scale of the Band-Map advances
with it.
>
> More important is the type of information displayed:
> >> stations already worked are displayed in italics and grayed out, so 
> >> I
> know not to call them again.
> >> Single multipliers are represented in a different color than double
> multipliers
>
> When I switch to a new band, after the Band-Map populates, I first 
> click rapidly across the band trying to work all the double 
> multipliers.  Then I go back and work all the single multipliers I 
> can.  After that I scan the band using the VFO, carefully listening, 
> working all that I can.  Then I change bands.
>
> To work a station, I simply double-click on the call sign.
> The selected call sign is automatically entered into my log, but it is 
> not logged unless I hit <ENTER>.
> You also must confirm the contest exchange yourself because sometimes 
> the software will enter the wrong zone, etc.
>
> The Band-Map provides is a wealth of information in an easy to use window.
> You can adjust bandspread the display with the mouse wheel, so that 
> there is never any problem reading each and every call sign.
>
> When you change bands, you do not instantly see this information.  It 
> takes a couple of minutes for the Band-Map to populate.  During that 
> wait time, I just work whomever I can.
>
> SINCE USING THE BAND-MAP, I HAVE DOUBLED THE SCORE I WAS CONSISTANTLY 
> MAKING BEFORE!
>
> People who don't like using this method, don't have to, and they don't 
> have to compete with others who use it.  There are two different classes:
> Assisted & Unassisted.
>
> If you are a member of a club and your club is actively competing in 
> the club championship, then you need to use this in order to 
> contribute as many points as possible to your club's total score.
>
> Hopefully now some of the guys will understand why I said seeing a 
> simple blip or a null (free spot) on a screen is not really much help.  
> I am comparing that to the kind of information the Band-Map presents.  
> If you use the Band-Map, there really isn't much advantage to also 
> having a band scope.
> It doesn't hurt to have the band scope, as long as you don't waste too 
> much time watching it.
>
> For me, the band scope (Pan-Adapter) will be a fun thing to play with 
> 'outside' of the contest.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry 
> N1EU
> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:13 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] List of Pan-Adapter Features
>
> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Is this pretty much it, or are there more things one might do with a 
> > Pan-Adapter?
> >
>
>
> Many of the panadapter programs (e.g. NaP3) will provide its own rx 
> audio output through the soundcard so essentially you have another 
> receiver with fully configurable dsp bandwidth (as wide/narrow as you 
> like) , sync AM etc.
> The rx audio derived is very high quality/fidelity (might be a nice 
> experiment with an Omni 6).
>
>
>
>
> > When it maps the Telnet spots,
> > does it interface with the contest logging software and show you the 
> > multipliers, show you which ones you have worked already, and 
> > automatically enter the call sign into the log when you double click 
> > it?  (In other words, can it do all the things the bandmap can do?) 
> > If so, which contest logging software does it run with?  N1MM?
> > Win-Test?  Other?
> >
>
> The short answer is no.  The ONLY software that will map Telnet spots 
> on the bandscope is NaP3 and you must use its built-in Telnet client 
> to connect independently to a remote node or a local node (which could 
> be skimmer or an aggregator that merges skimmer with a remote node).  
> Its display will be contest-ignorant.
>
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
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