[TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec rigs

Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP Rick at DJ0IP.de
Thu Feb 27 18:32:11 EST 2014


I keep telling that to my club too, but I can't awaken any interest.
Out of our 400 or so members, only about 5 of us own Eagles.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:49 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec
rigs

The Eagle would be an awesome dxpedition radio.

73, Barry N1EU

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
wrote:
> Many DXpeditions are loaned rigs by the manufacturers; in return, the
manufacturer has "bragging rights" and will advertise that they are the
"official" radio of the DXpedition (or at least one of them).
>
> Ten Tec does not, to my knowledge, loan out equipment at the present time.
>
> And let's be honest... if you were putting together a major DXpedition,
and you had a choice of two radios... say, a K3 or an Omni VII... to pick
for all of your operating stations (possibly as many as 6 or 7 stations,
double that if you are running separate CW & SSB locations, triple if you're
also running a separate Digital location)...  All else being equal, it comes
down to one brandyou'd have to buy, and the other which would be loaned at
no cost to you... which would you pick?
>
> 73
>
> On 02/27/14, Jim Vohland wrote:
>
> I realize that compared to you guys, I'm not worthy to walk in your
shadows but I do read all the discussions with interest and learn much. I
have owned and do have TenTec products and for the most part have been
pleased. I have wondered however, why we never see any DXexpeditions using
TenTec equipment? Comments.
>
>> From: resluder at yahoo.com
>> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:39:28 -0500
>> To: wa4njy at yahoo.com; wa4njy at yahoo.com; tentec at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with 
>> TenTec rigs
>>
>> Excellent analogies.
>>
>> Eric
>> W9WLW
>>
>> On February 27, 2014 11:22:16 AM EST, Ed Purvis <wa4njy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> |The Eagle seems to be a Ferrari with roll-up windows.
>> |
>> |The OMNI VII (had one) is a Mustang with nice options.
>> |
>> |Best analogy I can muster now.
>> |
>> |Ed
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |________________________________
>> | From: R. Eric Sluder-W9WLW <resluder at yahoo.com>
>> |To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>> |Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:32 AM
>> |Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with 
>> |TenTec rigs
>> |
>> |
>> |Bry:
>> |
>> |You won't find a simpler rig to use that rates high on Rob's list 
>> |for receiver performance, and that is the Eagle. It's so simple, 
>> |that when I got mine I actually went through "Knob Withdrawal" in 
>> |that I started second guessing if I made the right decision. You 
>> |look at the radio, and it does what you want it to do, but has so 
>> |few buttons or knobs that you ask yourself, "did I over pay for this 
>> |box?" It just goes to show you how programmed we've become with the 
>> |marketing hype in Ham Radio.
>> |
>> |The Eagle isn't for everyone, but it's a great mobile, or great home 
>> |based radio if you realize, it's not designed to be a contest class 
>> |radio even though the receiver is contest class grade. It's a top 
>> |notch radio inside a box with simple controls for those who might 
>> |use it in an RV, or mobile in a car, and for rag chewers, general 
>> |ops. IMO
>> |
>> |
>> |73
>> |
>> |
>> |- R. Eric Sluder
>> |
>> |W9WLW
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |>________________________________
>> |> From: Brian Carling <bcarling at cfl.rr.com>
>> |>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>> |>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:23 AM
>> |>Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit 
>> |>with
>> |TenTec rigs
>> |>
>> |>
>> |>The Omni VII discussion is very informative. I need encouragement 
>> |>when
>> |it comes to accepting the ergonomics of most modern rigs. The FT450 
>> |felt like I was burned with its horrible menu system. I actually 
>> |prefer the FT857D... But anything like the TS590 is just not going 
>> |to work here. The OMNI VII arrangement sounds far more practical 
>> |than most menu controlled rigs.
>> |>
>> |>Best regards - Bry Carling AF4K
>> |>
>> |>
>> |>
>> |>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com> wrote:
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> On 2/26/2014 6:13 PM, R. Eric Sluder - W9WLW wrote:
>> |>>
>> |>> I see where even on the new and highly touted TS-590 you do some
>> |serious button pushing too.
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> I have a TS-590 and the Omni VII in my shack.
>> |>>
>> |>> I like both radios, but I prefer operating the Omni VII. It is 
>> |>> not so much the multiple pressing of buttons, as the fact the 
>> |>> display only shows one menu item at a time, so you either press 
>> |>> several buttons to adjust several things, or you must work the 
>> |>> multi knob and scroll through like
>> |>> 87 or more items sequentially to get what you want, which is NOT 
>> |>> as quick and easy as looking at a list of 18 or 19 items at once, 
>> |>> and quickly scrolling to the one you want. Remembering the menu 
>> |>> item numbers on the 590 is not as easy as just looking at a menu 
>> |>> list and seeing what you want among the rest all at once. (hard 
>> |>> to describe...hopefully you get the gist. ) menu item at a time
>> |>>
>> |>> I will send Brian a comparison piece I wrote that compares how 
>> |>> stuff gets done with each rig and maybe that will help him judge 
>> |>> for himself. It IS a valid inquiry!
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>>>
>> |>>> The single tree menu in the Omni VII software is sweet.... 
>> |>>> you're
>> |not trying to go thru layers of menu settings.
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> Amen. The only way to get that sort of convenience in setting 
>> |>> features is to use the ARCP-590 software. I really like the Omni 
>> |>> VII simple menu when I am in a hurry like during a contest or 
>> |>> when trying to catch rare DX before the pile ensues, and I find 
>> |>> the Omni VII menu way easier to navigate in a hurry like that. 
>> |>> You have to use the ARCP software to get anything close to a 
>> |>> single menu. The 590 has like 87 menu items and the Omni VII 
>> |>> about half that number with 18 or 19 showing at any one time.
>> |>>
>> |>> I like both radios, but the Omni is easier to run, I think, than 
>> |>> the 590.
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> The Omni VII buttons are larger, with more space between them. 
>> |>> The features you change most encircle the main display. The 
>> |>> concept is easy.
>> |>> You press the feature you want, and adjust it with the Multi 
>> |>> Knob. That is the basic plan... select and adjust. If you want to 
>> |>> adjust another feature, just select it by pressing its front 
>> |>> panel button and adjust the value with the multi knob.
>> |>>
>> |>> Once you get onto that procedure, it all sorta works the same 
>> |>> way. (OK... there might be an exception or two, but that is the 
>> |>> gist of the process.)
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> Just MY take.
>> |>>
>> |>> ---------------------- K8JHR -----------------------
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