[TenTec] On Noisy Transmitters

Sun Jul 6 08:30:08 EDT 2014

Rick brings up a very good point on transmitter noise.  It is something most 
users won't likely realize is something that does truly exist.

I find, with several I've measured, do produce wide band noise that is 
transmitted across the spectrum.  Basically it is polluting our bands with 
noise, somewhat like one throwing trash out along the highway or leaving it 
in the city park.

I for one am glad to see RSGB does measure and report this.  I wish ARRL 
would do the same.  Of course it might affect their advertising revenue to 
report a certain brand and model radio is a broadband noise generator.

I've just finished a weekend operation at Field Day.  Using the Eagle I 
found there was no noise generated when it went into transmit.  {I already 
knew this as I had measured it on the bench, which is one reason I elected 
to use the radio.}  To that end, I know, I had my spectrum analyzer sitting 
on the table.  As to other radios operating at the Field Day sight, well I 
could see the noise floor rise when they transmitted. Some worse than 
others.

Many of the radio companies are "self certifying" thus indicated their 
product meets FCC specifications regarding purity of transmission.  The 
question is "do they really meet the specification or just say they do?". 
I strongly suspect if many of these brands and models were evaluated by an 
independent testing lab, they would not meet the requirements an thus would 
not be legal to be sold or used in the US or other countries for that 
matter.

Be a good citizen, "Give a hoot and don't pollute".

73
Bob, K4TAX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT Mega Sale

> Actually the FTdx3000 has a noisy transmitter.
> You wouldn't know it by reading the ARRL review, but RSGB's Radcom 
> reported
> that for it and the FTdx1200.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Tschur
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 12:39 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT Mega Sale
>
>
> Bry,
> I just bought a second hand Eagle for pretty much the same price as they
> sell a new one now, well it is a little annoying, but I got the best radio 
> I
> have ever had and have! So I don't worry too much about that fact. I have
> now 16 Ten Tec's and I love them all and they all stay here, means they 
> are
> all keeper's! What I don't understand is, why do you wish you would have
> bought an FTDX 3000??? For me, any Jap radio is Chicken Soup, a Ten Tec is
> Eye Fillet! I would not want one for free.
> I'm just listening to my Eagle in the background and it sounds sooo sweet
> and quiet, RF gain down a fair bit, very much like FM with squelch. Just
> beautiful. I will never buy another Jap radio whatsoever.
> And in regards to the mega sale, I'm sure TT knows what they are doing and
> I'm also very sure, that this is not the end for TT! Guy's, be happy, we 
> get
> a nice discount on the best radio's on the market! I just wish they would 
> be
> a lot more popular here in VK. They love their "Chicken Soup" ;-))!
> 73's
> Richard VK3KVK
>
>
>
> On 04/07/14 11:31, Brian Carling wrote:
>> Annoying!! I just bought a used Omni VII for the same price they suddenly
> changed to for the new ones. Now I wish I had bought an FTDX3000.
>>
>> Best regards - Bry Carling
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Toby Pennington <w4cakk at centurylink.net>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> These rigs are way overpriced anyway and it is good to see some 
>>> realistic
> pricing especially of the Omni 7 and the Eagle.
>>>
>>> I do feel for the guys who may be trying to sell these rigs on the used
> market,  or those who bought something before the sale began. This kind of
> sale is a FIRST for Ten Tec,   and obviously may signify more than just a
> sale,  perhaps something new is about to appear,  or will come our way by
> the end of this year.
>>>
>>> Toby K4NH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 7/3/2014 5:44 PM, Jim Vohland wrote:
>>>> Wow, that sure is a sale. Maybe some of the Ten Tec guru's can explain
> but this sure doesnt make sense from a business perspective to me. 
> Knocking
> a grand off the Omni VII. 800 off the eagle and 300 off a Agro. I wish I 
> was
> in the market for a new rig. Kinda scary though and makes me wonder about
> the future. Seems like a 'fire' sale. Just sayin.......Shoots the heck out
> of the used market for those trying to sell eagles and omni's.
>>>>
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