[TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S

Sun Jul 6 20:45:42 EDT 2014

Does TT not still have the 30 day trial period?  That's 30 days to try it
out and, if it doesn'tmeet one's expectation, return it for a full refund
(minus shipping cost both ways.)  Pretty sweet!

	73, Duane

Duane Calvin, AC5AA
Austin, Texas
www.ac5aa.com  

-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Kim Elmore
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 5:52 PM
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S

One thing to consider: atthe stated prices, you could buy and Eagle and 
try it out. If you find the ergonomics truly distasteful, you could 
probably turn around and sell it (after the end of July) for almost what 
you paid for it.

I went form a Kenwood TS-930S (that I still have) to an Orion II. I 
still like the TS0930S ergonomics better tyan the Orion II's, but 
honestly, the two radios are so different that the comparison my be not 
be fair because the Orion II has the ability to do a lot more.

I have not had the pleasure of operating a TS-590S, but I can tell you 
that TT's ergonomics is all their own. It isn't bad, only different. I 
suspect you will be happy with either one.

Kim N5OP

On 7/6/2014 2:27 PM, G Reichow wrote:
> Thanks Rick, this is the kind of information I'm looking for and all the
> responses so far have been very helpful. I read this reflector every day
> and it always has good info.
>
> Gary - KN0V
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de>
wrote:
>
>> The Eagle has a slightly better receiver, especially on the higher bands.
>> The ergonomics of the Kenwood are more typical of what most people are
>> familiar with.
>>
>> Unfortunately Omnirig does not support the Eagle so you may find that
some
>> contest logging packages are not fully compatible with it.  They will
>> probably still work in Orion2 mode, but with a couple of bugs.
>>
>> The 3rd order IMD of the Kenwood is slightly better than the Eagle, but
the
>> 590 has broadband noise problems.  The Eagle has none.  This makes the
>> Eagle
>> more suitable for using at multi TX sites.
>>
>> The 590 'had' a problem with ALC power spikes on TX.  If you buy a new
one,
>> the problem has been fixed.  If you buy a used one, it probably has this
>> problem.  This caused many of the modern linear amplifiers to trigger to
>> fault.  This is very annoying, but Kenwood will fix it for free if you
are
>> the original owner.  Not sure of their policy for used rigs, but I have
>> heard it costs $200 for the mod.
>>
>> Several people who have used both radios, including members of the
Ten-Tec
>> group(s) preferred the ergonomics of the Kenwood better.
>> IMO this only makes a difference when you have several rigs and switch
back
>> and forth a lot.
>> If you only use one rig, you quickly become accustomed to just about
>> anything.
>>
>> Neither rig has band data available on the rear panel for switching
>> external
>> switches such as antennas or band filters.  If you want that, you have to
>> spend a lot more money on the radio.
>>
>> For running a linear amp in CW, the Kenwood has adjustable TX-delay and
>> hang
>> time delay, each of the proper lengths (if you set the menu parameters
>> correctly).  The Eagle does not.  It is about 5mS too slow on TX-delay
and
>> has no hang delay at all.  Unless you have a full QSK linear, you will
need
>> to purchase the model 318 amp keyer - or for about $10 you can build it
>> yourself. OR use an external keyer which incorporates adjustable keying
>> delays, such as the WinKey - which is probably a good idea anyway if you
>> are
>> into contesting.
>>
>> FINALLY:  Ten-Tec owners are nicer people.  If you don't believe that,
just
>> ask us!  ;-)
>>
>> For my current needs, the Eagle is the best radio in the world.
>> Your mileage may vary.
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of G
Reichow
>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 5:16 PM
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>> Subject: [TenTec] Eagle vs. TS-590S
>>
>> Hello all,
>>        I am in the market for a new radio. Originally I was looking at
the
>> FTDX-1200 and the TS-590S as both of those are within my budget.
>> Now, with the mega-sale, the Eagle is within my budget as  well. I was
>> leaning toward the 590S due to its receiver. So I guess it comes down to
>> the
>> 590 or Eagle. My primary interests are dx'ing and contests.
>> Constructive input and thoughts are welcome.
>>
>> Tks - Gary (KN0V)
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-- 

Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology, CCM, PP 
SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)

/"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in 
practice, there is." //-- Attributed to many people; it's so true that 
it doesn't matter who said it./

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