[TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle

Thu Jul 10 10:07:00 EDT 2014

I've heard that as well.  However, I've measured the two radios on 6M.  I 
can hear a -121 dBm signal equally and quite well on each one.  This is with 
the PRE ON for both radios.  I can comment, since the Eagle has a very quite 
receive, many seem to think since there is no noise heard the sensitivity is 
not there.

73
Bob, K4TAX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle

> OH, that's a good point Carl, one I forgot.
> I have never operated 6m in my life, but I have heard others mention that
> the Eagle is a bit deaf on that band.
> We'll add it to the list.
>
> HERE IS A QUESTION TO YOU GUYS WHO HAVE AN OM7:
>
> Is there band data available on the back panel?
> That is convenient for driving all sorts of add-on devices.
> The Eagle has none?
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob 
> McGraw
> - K4TAX
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:23 PM
> To: n4py3 at earthlink.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle
>
> These are points that I also find correct and I agree with Carl's 
> assessment
> on performance.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py3 at earthlink.net>
> To: "R. Eric Sluder" <resluder at yahoo.com>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec 
> Equipment"
>
> <tentec at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 9:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle
>
>
>> That sounds like the RF gain was just set too high in the Omni VII.  I
>> have both radios here and I like the Omni VII much better.  The Omni VII
>> is more convenient to use the controls.  It's also more sensitive for
>> hearing weak signals on 6 meters.
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>> On 7/9/2014 10:49 PM, R. Eric Sluder via TenTec wrote:
>>> Nice response Rick.
>>>
>>> Having both radios I'll say the OM7 receiver isn't capable of dealing
>>> with interference like the Eagle can do.  Broadcast band interference on
>>> 160 meters is a good example.  Atmospheric noise (including lightning
>>> pulses) are stronger in my OM7 verses the Eagle.  It maybe because the
>>> Eagle is a down converted receiver with a less broad front end whereas
>>> the OM7 has a broader front end (20 Khz I believe) and is up converted,
>>> plus the DSP isn't of the same vintage of the Eagle (just guessing).
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> W9WLW
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 5:10 PM, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP"<Rick at DJ0IP.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was just asked off list for reasons to warrant spending the extra
>>>> bread on
>>>> an OM7 instead of an Eagle.
>>>> Ha!  I had to bite my tongue to keep from saying "none, there aren't
>>>> any!"
>>>> (hi)
>>>>
>>>> There are of course 2 or 3 minor reasons and I've created my list 
>>>> below.
>>>> Perhaps someone else more familiar with the OM7 than I am can think of
>>>> other
>>>> reasons that I have forgotten.
>>>> Grateful to any additional tips.
>>>>
>>>> (and to the OM who asked me this question, if you do not subscribe to
>>>> the
>>>> tentec group at contesting.com, send me another email and I will 
>>>> forward
>
>>>> you
>>>> any replies we get).
>>>> ==========================================================
>>>>
>>>> Hi OM, (name withheld)
>>>>
>>>> You do realize of course that you have posed that question to a man in
>>>> love
>>>> with his Eagle!  (hi)
>>>> OK, but I will try and be objective on this.
>>>>
>>>> The Eagle's better receiver is really only noticeable in BIG contests
>>>> where
>>>> a good operator is willing to dive into the middle of the heaviest
>>>> pile-up
>>>> on the band to work whatever DX multiplier is under all the rumble.
>>>> Apart
>>>> from that, there is not a lot of difference in the two receivers.
>>>> However
>>>> when the going gets tough, the Eagle will outshine the Omni 7.
>>>>
>>>> I'll start with the only other negative of the OM7 over the Eagle: it
>>>> has
>>>> only one knob for AF and RF gain.  Not the end of the world but 
>>>> separate
>>>> knobs would have been better.
>>>>
>>>> And of course if you go backpacking, I'd rather carry an Eagle!  (hi)
>>>> Same applies for mobile operations.
>>>>
>>>> Now here is my short list of features the OM7 has which the Eagle does
>>>> not:
>>>>
>>>> . A larger read out, including an S-Meter that you can actually see and
>>>> read
>>>>
>>>> . Better interfacing to old amplifiers (or new Ameritron amplifiers) in
>>>> CW
>>>> mode.  The OM7 has adjustable hang delay on the tail end of the signal.
>>>> The
>>>> Eagle does not have this feature and if you have one of these amps, you
>>>> absolutely need it.  With the Eagle, you must purchase the Model 318 
>>>> Amp
>>>> Keyer for a hundred bucks.
>>>>
>>>> . Interfacing to Ten-Tec full QSK amplifiers (dual-cable keying).  The
>>>> Eagle
>>>> does not have this.  If you don't have a full QSK linear with this
>>>> keying
>>>> loop circuitry, it doesn't matter.
>>>>
>>>> . A band scope (though it's not the greatest)
>>>>
>>>> . Larger heat sink on the back side for cooling the final transistors.
>>>> You
>>>> really do not need a fan unless you are running RTTY.  The Eagle 
>>>> doesn't
>>>> have this so it must rely on a fan. It is not terribly loud but it is
>>>> audible.
>>>>
>>>> . Direct frequency entry keypad
>>>>
>>>> . Curtis mode A and B keying.  It's fixed on the Eagle, but I have no
>>>> idea
>>>> which one.  Somehow I never paid any attention to that stuff.  I just
>>>> key
>>>> whatever they throw at me and it somehow seems to always work.
>>>>
>>>> . Two spare RCA phono plugs AND an internal provision to connect two
>>>> coax
>>>> cables to these to be used as connection for a pre-selector or noise
>>>> cancelor.
>>>>
>>>> . A serial port.
>>>>
>>>> . Connection for the POD (the remote VFO knob).  I sometimes miss this
>>>> on my
>>>> Eagle.
>>>>
>>>> . 2 antenna jacks
>>>>
>>>> . Ethernet connection
>>>>
>>>> . AUX RX (antenna) - an input for a receive-only antenna (uses one of
>>>> the
>>>> two ANT connections)
>>>>
>>>> . Adjustable bandwidth on SSB
>>>>
>>>> . Adjustable RX and TX equalizers
>>>>
>>>> . CTCSS for FM
>>>>
>>>> . Adjustable CW (keying) weighting
>>>>
>>>> . SPOT (for spotting in CW) - which I personally feel is worthless
>>>>
>>>> . Adjustable rise/fall time on CW.  A fancy option but I don't feel it
>>>> is
>>>> necessary.  The Eagle's CW signal is just fine.
>>>>
>>>> . FSK X Data (if you are into RTTY)
>>>>
>>>> . VFO Speed Shift which basically speeds up the tuning rate by a factor
>>>> of 4
>>>> when you turn the VFO knob real fast.  Many people like this feature a
>>>> lot.
>>>>
>>>> . A very comfortable software menu (probably the very best in the
>>>> industry)
>>>>
>>>> . OmniRig support (very important for many 3rd party software programs)
>>>>
>>>> . A dedicated RIT/XIT knob (using the RIT on the Eagle is very clumsy)
>>>>
>>>> . And of course REMOTE CONTROL (over the Internet)
>>>>
>>>> That's all that comes to mind right now, but keep in mind that I do not
>>>> own
>>>> an OM7 and the last time I even saw or used one was in 2007.  That was 
>>>> 7
>>>> years ago. and my old grey cells "ain't what they used to be".
>>>>
>>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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