[TenTec] New Radios in the Future

Sat Nov 1 09:50:09 EDT 2014

EXCELLENT!

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)

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From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Moreschi
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 2:46 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future

Let me explain what I just built.  Now I know we can't really build from
scratch like we could in the 1950's but this is what I did to satisfy my
building urge.

I love the new direct sequence radios and my Flex 6500.  I wanted to compare
it with an Anan 100.  So I bought a Tapr Hermes board.  This board is the
same transceiver board that is in the Anan-100.  But it only transmits a
half watt and does not have an antenna switching relay. 
  So I also purchased a kit that was a half watt to 5 watt amplifier.  I
then made an interface box that has an antenna relay and the 5 watt
amplifier.  I then interfaced this with a 5 watt to 100 watt amplifier.

I now have the equivalent of an Anan 100 for a total investment of $1100
instead of $2500.  I also have the fun of feeling like I built something.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com

On 11/1/2014 9:36 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
> Barry, a classical user interface will be one of many options.
> It will just be in a separate box from the radio.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry 
> N1EU
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 1:56 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future
>
> The hf rig front panel evolved its knobbed interface over a period of 
> nearly
> 100 years.  It works.  I don't need no steenkin'
> smartphone/touchscreen/mouse/whatever modern interface for my radio.  
> Sure, let the radio hardware be the latest greatest direct digital 
> sampling, but keep my user interface classical.
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
>
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Phil Sussman<psussman at pactor.com>  wrote:
>
>> I do agree with Rick to some extent. The days of building from 
>> scratch are quickly waning away. Yes, it still possible to make 
>> simple devices, but the degree of complexity of modern items outpaces 
>> the ability to create.
>>
>> Consider fiber optic cable -vs- wire. Over the years there's been a 
>> wide variety of wire of various gauges and materials.
>> But still wire was something that you could connect, crimp, or solder.
>> Not so with fiber optics - - the diameter is small yet it can conduct 
>> for miles with very low loss without the issues of EMP or moisture. 
>> If you want to splice it, you need a fusion splicer costing thousands 
>> of dollars. If you want to connect it, the tools and equipment 
>> required to clean, inspect, and terminate it place that ability 
>> beyond the average technician.
>>
>> Yes, progress moves on. But that does not mean innovation is dead ..
>> it is just different. We still find pleasure in making the seemingly 
>> impossible work. I speak of homemade antennas that defy logic. I 
>> speak of emergency power systems that can power equipment for days 
>> (because of the decreasing power consumption).
>>
>> Just as LED's have progressed in technology over filament bulbs, so 
>> has our ability to innovate progressed. We might not be able to 
>> repair a circuit board full of SMD components. We still, however, can 
>> take pride in making things work.
>>
>> Just my thoughts,
>>
>> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>>
>>
>> -------
>>
>>
>> Quoting Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP<Rick at DJ0IP.de>:
>>
>>   "there is no better time to be a radio UI homebrewer"
>>>
>>> Oh, I do not agree with that!
>>>
>>> I agree it is a good thing that people continue to home brew 
>>> anything at all, but I can't see how the thrill of programming a 
>>> computer board or radio that they bought can compare with the thrill 
>>> of hearing that first radio station when I built my first crystal 
>>> radio in 1958, cat-whisker and all.
>>>
>>> Or with building a 20m CW transceiver from a schematic and magazine 
>>> article....
>>> Weeks of collecting parts, 40 or 50 hours of soldering it all 
>>> together, then finally turning it on and hearing radio signals...
>>> Then sitting down in the living room with the little rig running off 
>>> of a battery and using a home brew indoor magnetic loop antenna just 
>>> 3' in diameter, and working about 20 stations around Europe in a 
>>> contest, the first 30 minutes on the air.  This was excitement.
>>>
>>> I built my first computer in 1977, also from an article in a magazine.
>>> Gathered the components and soldered it together, just as I had done 
>>> with radios. And I was proud when it worked.  But that didn't match 
>>> the thrill of hearing radio stations, at least not for me.
>>>
>>> I don't want to take anything away from the people participating in 
>>> the makers movement, but let's not sell the past too short either.
>>> These makers could still build their own radio today if they wanted 
>>> to.  They have other interests.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Rick, DJ0IP
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2014 11:54 PM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote:
>>>
>>>> it is also true that there is
>>>> no better time to be a radio UI homebrewer.  There will be a great 
>>>> deal of innovation on this front in the next 10 years.  Kudos to 
>>>> TenTec for giving us the Rebel and allowing innovation to thrive again.
>>>>
>>>>
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